Were Confederate soldiers terrorists?

and every single country that does better than the US has ONE minister of education, one standard, even if they have seperate tiers, and their kids go to school more than 200 days per year. They don't have arguments about whether they should teach kids that the earth is only 6000 years old, or that it was created by words and breathing life into mud people. YOu want to compete with them, teach like them.
 
Socrtease said:
and every single country that does better than the US has ONE minister of education, one standard, even if they have seperate tiers, and their kids go to school more than 200 days per year. They don't have arguments about whether they should teach kids that the earth is only 6000 years old, or that it was created by words and breathing life into mud people. YOu want to compete with them, teach like them.
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Which countries are those?
 
Socrtease said:
South Korea and Japan are at the top, as far as testing goes. Out of 24 countries he US was 18th.
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Lets take Japan as an example. Have you ever known a Japanese family? How involved were they in their childrens' education?

The Japanese are renowned for their strong families, as well as sense of honor. Surely this is the reason why their students are so excellent. Its not because their government is involved from the top down.
 
Southern Man said:
Lets take Japan as an example. Have you ever known a Japanese family? How involved were they in their childrens' education?

The Japanese are renowned for their strong families, as well as sense of honor. Surely this is the reason why their students are so excellent. Its not because their government is involved from the top down.
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sure, but they are involved in their childrens education in a system that has ONE minister of education, and one standard. They don't have thousands of school districts with different school boards that develope different standards than kids in the next county.
 
Socrtease said:
sure, but they are involved in their childrens education in a system that has ONE minister of education, and one standard. They don't have thousands of school districts with different school boards that develope different standards than kids in the next county.
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Which is more influential, having ONE minister of education, or having strong families and a strong sense of honor?
 
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3. I graduated high school two years before creation of the US Dept of Education, therefore the feds had nothing to do with my education.
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Cypress said:
The Federal Department of Health, Education, and Welfare was created by President Eisenhower in the 1950s. It was only broke into a separate cabinet level agency in the late 1970s.

So, unless you're the same age as John McCain; i.e., one hundred and eleven years old, your education was, in part funded and enabled by federal tax dollars.

And if you ever went to college or university, your education was subsidized or enabled, in part, by federal funding to both public and private universities.


But you may commence with the old conservative canard that you pulled yourself up by your own boot straps, that you were entirely self reliant. Those kind of Daniel Boone rightwing fantasies always get a laugh.
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:clink: Isn't nice when a little historical fact and applied logic knocks these lying, bigoted neocon SOS off their propaganda podium?
 
Taichiliberal said:
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:clink: Isn't nice when a little historical fact and applied logic knocks these lying, bigoted neocon SOS off their propaganda podium?
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It's nicer when a little historical fact and applied logic knocks you lying, bigoted libtard SOS off your propaganda podium:

The United States Department of Education, also referred to as ED or the ED for (the) Education Department, is a Cabinet-level department of the United States government. Created by the Department of Education Organization Act (Public Law 96-88), it was signed into law by President Jimmy Carter on October 17, 1979 and began operating on May 16, 1980.

A previous Department of Education was created in 1867 but soon was demoted to an Office in 1868.
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Southern Man said:
Which is more influential, having ONE minister of education, or having strong families and a strong sense of honor?
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I think the Japanese prove it is better to have strong families and sense of honor. Their students are light-years ahead of the rest of us schmucks, and last I checked, Saudi Arabia had ONE minister of education... We even have a single head of the Dept. of Education. So, it is clearly not "administrative" organization, which fosters excellence in education skills, and it is clearly not government sponsorship.

Not coincidentally, the Japanese are one of the most "conservative" cultures in the world, history and tradition mean a LOT to them, and they hold traditional customs in the highest of regards, unlike the US, where we have to constantly be bowing to social progressiveness.
 
Socrtease said:
Your parents paid taxes while you went to school. Not every dollar they paid when to your school, it also went to all sorts of other state funded programs. Only a small portion of your parents money went to education and my bet is you used more services than they paid for. That is why all citizens pay taxes toward education so that the cost of educating kids is borne by all citizens. A well educated populace is boon to all people and a well educated populace is one of the greatest protectors of their own liberty.
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Be careful there, Soc. Or you will be accused of offering a strawman or red herring argument.

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