What kind of "Christian values" do Conservatives want?

Disagreed. Trump, no doubt, does that but the vast majority of Republicans I know who are Christian aren't pretending.

And yet the only Christian values they have are homophobia, transphobia, and being against abortion.

I'm fully aware of your "many criticisms against religion". IMO, you're as bad as the Bible Thumpers by seeking to pound your beliefs into anyone in range.

False Equivalence. I think religion should be allowed to die on its own. I don't want Atheism to be part of laws or policies, like the Bible Thumpers want with Christianity.
 
And yet the only Christian values they have are homophobia, transphobia, and being against abortion.

False Equivalence. I think religion should be allowed to die on its own. I don't want Atheism to be part of laws or policies, like the Bible Thumpers want with Christianity.
Again, your dislike of the Christian religion appears to be causing bias on your part. This would explain why you are only seeing the "homophobia, transphobia, and being against abortion" from some prominent Christians and not everyday Christians across the country....including the 40%+ of Democrats who are Christian.

Wrong. I agree with the same to any human organization that has outlived its usefulness. Disagreed since, like banning guns, that agenda is there.
 
The Right often talks about how things would be so great if America just embraced Christian values like we supposedly did in the past. I know two Christian values they want to bring back are homophobia and a ban on abortion, but is that it? What else do you guys want to do to make America more Christian?
Conservatives are quite different than Religious activists. Can you define your question better?
Regardless of his reply, SbS seems to take pleasure in Christian-bashing. ...probably one-handed.
 
Again, your dislike of the Christian religion appears to be causing bias on your part. This would explain why you are only seeing the "homophobia, transphobia, and being against abortion" from some prominent Christians and not everyday Christians across the country....including the 40%+ of Democrats who are Christian.

I see it, I'm just not talking about it. Like I explained to Survivorman, this thread is about the use of Christianity by Conservatives.
When Democrats exploit Christianity, they do it differently.

Wrong. I agree with the same to any human organization that has outlived its usefulness. Disagreed since, like banning guns, that agenda is there.

What agenda? Please tell me you don't believe the conspiracy theory that Liberals are trying to eliminate Christianity. :palm:
 
I see it, I'm just not talking about it. Like I explained to Survivorman, this thread is about the use of Christianity by Conservatives.
When Democrats exploit Christianity, they do it differently.

What agenda? Please tell me you don't believe the conspiracy theory that Liberals are trying to eliminate Christianity. :palm:

Bullshit. It's exactly what you're talking about. You're just claiming a different spin.

Your atheist agenda.
 
Like the traveling evangelists of old...this is first and foremost a religious experience....with a very talented preacher running everything.

Salesmanship was Trump's greatest strength, but his age is catching up to him.
 
Salesmanship was Trump's greatest strength, but his age is catching up to him.

Lack of support is catching up to him....he is a man, not a God....there are maybe 1000 Americans who could handle the stress and strain that Trump has endured as he served his nation better than Trump has.

Trump will forever have my thanks, regardless of what happens going forwards.
 
Bullshit. It's exactly what you're talking about. You're just claiming a different spin.

Read the OP. I'm specifically talking about what Conservatives mean when they talk about so-called Christian values. Not sure how I can be claiming a different spin, considering I haven't changed anything.

Your atheist agenda.

Uh-huh, and what is that? Having a secular government like we're supposed to in a Western country?
 
Lack of support is catching up to him....he is a man, not a God....there are maybe 1000 Americans who could handle the stress and strain that Trump has endured as he served his nation better than Trump has.

Trump will forever have my thanks, regardless of what happens going forwards.
He lacks support because he's a fucking moron. He's driven off all the competent leaders in the nation.

You are free to kiss the ass of anyone you like, but think Trump's administration will go down as described here:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...et-attacks-on-constitution-column/3999665002/
We’ve had presidents who were used by members of their own family for personal gain, like Ulysses S. Grant.

We’ve had presidents who stocked their Cabinet with greedy, self-serving mediocrities who took advantage of the public trust, like Warren G. Harding.

We’ve had presidents who swore to “preserve, protect and defend” the Constitution, only to then abuse it, like Richard Nixon.

And we’ve had presidents who, thanks to a presumptive sense of entitlement, lived slimy private lives, using countless women before tossing them aside — Harding again, plus John F. Kennedy and Bill Clinton.

President Donald Trump falls into every single sleazy category, squarely and shamelessly. Just Thursday, we learned that he'll hold next year's Group of Seven meeting (with leaders of Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and the United Kingdom) at his own Doral golf resort in Miami....


...Trump’s infidelities fall short of Harding and Kennedy. But sleaze is sleaze: He has cheated on all three wives and, in the case of porn star Stormy Daniels, did it right after his third wife, Melania, gave birth to their son, Barron. And at last count, no fewer than 25 women accuse him of either “misconduct” or flat-out assault. It's certainly obvious why evangelicals continue to call Trump a good, God-fearing Christian, isn't it?

Trump, who even lies about the weather, says every single one of these women is making it all up. Trump, as you know, is a Boy Scout and would never lay so much as an orange finger on anyone. And that “Access Hollywood” tape that surfaced in 2016, in which he bragged about assaulting women? Fake. Sure.

A grifting family. A sleazy what’s-in-it-for-me Cabinet. Trampling on our beloved Constitution. And all these women. All the boxes, checked.
 
He lacks support because he's a fucking moron. He's driven off all the competent leaders in the nation.

You are free to kiss the ass of anyone you like, but think Trump's administration will go down as described here:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...et-attacks-on-constitution-column/3999665002/
We’ve had presidents who were used by members of their own family for personal gain, like Ulysses S. Grant.

We’ve had presidents who stocked their Cabinet with greedy, self-serving mediocrities who took advantage of the public trust, like Warren G. Harding.

We’ve had presidents who swore to “preserve, protect and defend” the Constitution, only to then abuse it, like Richard Nixon.

And we’ve had presidents who, thanks to a presumptive sense of entitlement, lived slimy private lives, using countless women before tossing them aside — Harding again, plus John F. Kennedy and Bill Clinton.

President Donald Trump falls into every single sleazy category, squarely and shamelessly. Just Thursday, we learned that he'll hold next year's Group of Seven meeting (with leaders of Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and the United Kingdom) at his own Doral golf resort in Miami....


...Trump’s infidelities fall short of Harding and Kennedy. But sleaze is sleaze: He has cheated on all three wives and, in the case of porn star Stormy Daniels, did it right after his third wife, Melania, gave birth to their son, Barron. And at last count, no fewer than 25 women accuse him of either “misconduct” or flat-out assault. It's certainly obvious why evangelicals continue to call Trump a good, God-fearing Christian, isn't it?

Trump, who even lies about the weather, says every single one of these women is making it all up. Trump, as you know, is a Boy Scout and would never lay so much as an orange finger on anyone. And that “Access Hollywood” tape that surfaced in 2016, in which he bragged about assaulting women? Fake. Sure.

A grifting family. A sleazy what’s-in-it-for-me Cabinet. Trampling on our beloved Constitution. And all these women. All the boxes, checked.

Trump is a well accomplished genius.


"NOT MY PRESIDENT!" Nov 9 2016
 
Read the OP. I'm specifically talking about what Conservatives mean when they talk about so-called Christian values. Not sure how I can be claiming a different spin, considering I haven't changed anything.

Uh-huh, and what is that? Having a secular government like we're supposed to in a Western country?
Jesus Christ, dude. How much fucking validation do you need? There's over 555 messages on this thread. How many times do you need someone to say they agree or disagree that Republican values often claim Christian values but are often contrary to Christian values? Didn't your mommy breastfeed you???
 
Jesus Christ, dude. How much fucking validation do you need? There's over 555 messages on this thread. How many times do you need someone to say they agree or disagree that Republican values often claim Christian values but are often contrary to Christian values? Didn't your mommy breastfeed you???

Dude, calm down. I was just correcting you.

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