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Why FDR Was the Best President We Ever Had
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The Almighty
dear moron... the downturn in the equity markets began in March of 2000. Who was President then?
Glass Steagall's repeal was a large part of the reason for the economic meltdown in 2008. Who was the President that repealed it?
I think recovery was happening before that
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The Almighty
Who are you referring to?
FDR didn't get us out of the depression until our entry in WWII.
Obama still hasn't seen an economic recovery for the middle and lower income families... his policies have benefited the 1%.
Wrong; a global conflagration started by despotic dictators ignored by Liberals like Chamberlain and FDR, and where we were the only untouched Democracy left standing were what did it.
philly rabbit
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That's right. And the topic starter refuses to answer my question on another thread about if he thinks that total war should have been implemented on the confederate army and it's families in Oklahoma territory too because he is a liberal and liberals cannot say anything bad about minorities because it's politically incorrect and taboo.
That's why I trolled his thread because after he announced his superiority over me on my thread in grand self rightous liberal style, he then went on a tirade defending total war on the southern states as has thee dee here many times in his bloodthristy, anti white protestant style.
Again; you're too stupid for prime time.
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The Almighty
Not really... while in any bear market there will be good years, the bad tend to outweigh them. You end up with a 13-16 year period where the markets went on a roller coaster ride and ended up pretty much where they started.
1929-1944
1966-1982
2000-2012
The spending did help us from total collapse. The first new deal helped a lot of people and businesses. There was another own turn and the second New Deal was implemented. Both of these fiscal policies helped save our nation. We did spend our way out of the Depression, and the war did help as well, but the two New Deals were also beneficial to our economy
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
thinking that is not enough.....the facts are against you.....
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
stop and think about that a minute.....if the first "New Deal" helped, why did we have another down turn......then we had a second "New Deal".....and things didn't turn around until after the war was over......unemployment dropped because many young men died in the war.....
jet57
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Uh, wrong. During the depression, the largest organizing drives began or American labor and it was that organiainz that led to fruitful work, better conditions and a better country, up until Jimmy Carter and Ted Kennedy and then of course Ronald Reagan.
jet57
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'Sieg Heil" you say.
jet57
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You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and you're trying to compare apples to oranges.
Please read some books - please.
jet57
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None of that stuff is any good (see the USSR and N Korea) without sound domestic and economic policies.
Soeey, but you're going to have to admit the truth, that under FDR this country began it's true rise to a world power.
jet57
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As organizing got going and people started working again under the NRA and CCC the unemployment numbers dropped. Then rose again following the war becasue the indutail military plants were no loner necessary. The employment rose again to the national environment that I;ve been talking about and people were able to go to college and buy homes all over the country.
For three years Ronald Reagan brought us to 10% unemployment. You are conveniently leaving that out.
jet57
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Bad mouthing nazi Germany is fine: I do it all the time. The difficulty for you in this discussion however, is that you are missing a key piece of human behavior that you should be thinking about.
Think on it, and then get back to me.
cawacko
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jet, let's go back to what you wrote here.
Here is your post I responded to:
"""So, (cough), from the 30s to 1980 this country didn't have the highest standard of living in the world, with the best sustainable home market and highest qulaity education coupled with very low unemployment?
We were - what? Picking potatos in Russia?"""
You said we had low unemployment in the '30's. I believe it was 1937 that unemployment hit 14%, the lowest rate of the decade. How do you consider that a low number?
You then said we had low unemployment up to 1980. I showed that the rate in 1975 was higher than the rate between sometime in '84 all the way through 2008. That is a fact. I didn't conveniently leave anything out. The unemployment numbers in '81-'83 were higher than 1975 which is why I didn't reference them.
Your statement that from 1980 going forward unemployment rates weren't what they were like in the preceding decades is wrong.
jet57
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I take it you didn't watch the video. I take it that you aren't clear on American history . . . The US financial markets had run amuck; just llike in 2007. FDR put together a plan for those Americans who wanted to work and built a support structure to help Americans take personal responsibility for their livelyhoods and pick themselves up from poverty: which they did.
That's why.
Robo
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Neo-Commies always accuse true patriots/constitutionalist/true republicans/true conservatives/true classical liberals/libertarians of being Nazis because they, (neo-commies), are opposed to constitutional government the Constitution, liberty and true capitalism. neo-commie Democrats are fucking BIG government Central Planners and authoritarian scumbags.