5 ways to tell if you're a Libertarian

Mott the Hoople said:
How to tell you’re not a libertarian;

You actually get elected.
Once elected you actually accomplish something.
You understand that utilitarianism is the only form of governance that’s proven to work.
You actually understand the relationship between Libertarianism and anarchy.
You also understand market economies simply do not work unless they are regulated to protect the public from bad actors.
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this 'understanding' is nothing more than the dumbing down of America, especially because you believe that democrats and/or republicans accomplish things. the only things they accomplish is to fatten their own wallets at the expense of the peoples liberty and wealth. That makes YOU the bad actor in the economy.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
this 'understanding' is nothing more than the dumbing down of America, especially because you believe that democrats and/or republicans accomplish things. the only things they accomplish is to fatten their own wallets at the expense of the peoples liberty and wealth. That makes YOU the bad actor in the economy.
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And still, a befuddled citizenry will vote for one or the other. Well, half of us, the other half know the vote is bullshit in an utterly corrupted system such as ours.
 
I always thought the tell-tale signs of a rightwing libertarian are basically:

Socially inept white male
An unhealthy, and perhaps pseudo-sexual attraction to guns
Rambo-fantasies of overthrowing the U.S government through force of arms.
Constant complaining about petty municipal ordinances (aka, smoking bans, trans-fat bans, et al.).
An over-inflated sense of self-reliance, while trolling on an internet invented by government scientists.
 
CFM said:
Those that work in industry, as you know, wouldn't be working unless those that own it gave them the opportunity.
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evince said:
you are such a willing slave
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The dumbass cock sucking brokeback redneck peckerwood CFM is so fucking stupid it never occurred to him that employers need their employees as much or more than the employees need their employers.

If not for the employees and the labor they provide, the employer's business could not function or even exist.

CFM is the most ignorant hillbilly on the entire internet.
 
Nomad said:
The dumbass cock sucking brokeback redneck peckerwood CFM is so fucking stupid it never occurred to him that employers need their employees as much or more than the employees need their employers.

If not for the employees and the labor they provide, the employer's business could not function or even exist.

CFM is the most ignorant hillbilly on the entire internet.
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Not to offer up anything ever in support of CFM (Christian Fanatic Masturbator? Who knows?) Those employees would do well to understand this themselves, unite, and resist. Until they do? Oh I reckon they can vote for "change" or something.
 
Cypress said:
I always thought the tell-tale signs of a rightwing libertarian are basically:

Socially inept male
An unhealthy, and perhaps pseudo-sexual attraction to guns
Rambo-fantasies of overthrowing the U.S government through force of arms.
Constant complaining about petty municipal ordinances (aka, smoking bans, trans-fat bans, et al.).
An over-inflated sense of self-reliance, while trolling on an internet invented by government scientists.
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Nailed it...

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Bravo!!!!! :hand:
 
I Love America said:
Exactly. Apparently it is a zero sum game for him

What is hilarious is that he puts himself on this pedestal as the only person who understands the US Constitution yet when a state or city does something to restrict gun rights he flips his lid.

Well any person who had a true understanding of federalism and the real intent of the Constitution would have zero issue with an individual state dictating gun laws.

But that isn’t how our buddy sees it
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What part of "shall not be infringed " is confusing to you?
 
iolo said:
Those who 'own' industry, as you know, do no productive work. They live off the proportion of wages they steal from their employees. Other people don't own industry, so they're irrelevant.
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You mean the ones whose investments took the risk of creating those industries that produce the jobs for all those workers?

The owners include the 95 million Americans who own stock/mutual funds and have 401(K), IRA, and 403(b) accounts that will provide them a retirement income. It will be a big job to put all those teachers, plant workers, and others in jail.

You are going to put that nice old Warren Buffet in jail?
 
Flash said:
With an average return of 10% annually in S&P you do not lose everything you invested and any loss comes back. The 2008 recession dropped many funds by 40% by that has more than recovered. It is obviously a better financial plan than SS which is already spending more than it brings in. By about 2037 the $2.5 trillion surplus will be gone and revenues will only fund about 70% of the benefits; so, SS is obviously not a sound solution.
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Raise the cap.
 
Flash said:
Not a fraction but the amount they declined. It is not less than they were originally worth since the value grew over the years. If my investment grows to $1 million and declines to $600,000 and I sell some shares, it is most likely for more rather than less I originally paid. And, you only sell about 4% annually which allows the money to continue to grow at a faster rate than the withdrawal.
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Where have you been the last 10 years,
Simpleton?
 
Cypress said:
I always thought the tell-tale signs of a rightwing libertarian are basically:

Socially inept white male
An unhealthy, and perhaps pseudo-sexual attraction to guns
Rambo-fantasies of overthrowing the U.S government through force of arms.
Constant complaining about petty municipal ordinances (aka, smoking bans, trans-fat bans, et al.).
An over-inflated sense of self-reliance, while trolling on an internet invented by government scientists.
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You are confusing libertarians with militia guys. Why are some so obsessed with the sex habits and genitalia of gun owners?
 
Cypress said:
I always thought the tell-tale signs of a rightwing libertarian are basically:

Socially inept white male
An unhealthy, and perhaps pseudo-sexual attraction to guns
Rambo-fantasies of overthrowing the U.S government through force of arms.
Constant complaining about petty municipal ordinances (aka, smoking bans, trans-fat bans, et al.).
An over-inflated sense of self-reliance, while trolling on an internet invented by government scientists.
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your fears of the freedom of others shows in your necessity to insult your superiors because of your own insecurities. not everybody can be brave, but there's always hope for you.
 
iolo said:
Those who 'own' industry, as you know, do no productive work. They live off the proportion of wages they steal from their employees. Other people don't own industry, so they're irrelevant.
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as i said before, you're an individual who has no concept of capitalist economies.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
and 40% of that other half still vote for one or the other because of their terror over the other side winning.
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Can't see that it matters all that much who "wins", for example there is always a cabal of Godlman Sachs execs in the white house regardless of electoral outcomes, and there is never any daylight between the "two" party(s) when it comes to economically cannibalizing american society to halfass fund more war, empire, foreign govt destabilizations and military occupation of foreign lands.
 
Rune said:
No they don't
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They are if you don't include interest income.

"Social Security's total income is projected to exceed its total cost through 2021, as it has since 1982. The 2016 surplus of total income relative to cost was $35 billion. However, when interest income is excluded, Social Security's cost is projected to exceed its non-interest income throughout the projection period, as it has since 2010. The Trustees project that this annual non-interest deficit will average about $51 billion between 2017 and 2020. It will then rise steeply as income growth slows to its sustainable trend rate as the economic recovery is complete while the number of beneficiaries continues to grow at a substantially faster rate than the number of covered workers."

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/trsum/
 
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