5 ways to tell if you're a Libertarian

Libertarians are like all ideologues, tied to ideas that explain, have emotional appeal, and are used to justify or solve all the problems and issues of the universe. The real world contains humans and other assorted stuff.

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?35631-Libertarian-Flame&highlight=libertarian

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...ness-on-the-American-Right&highlight=nutshell


Edit, this is from link above, I laughed when I read it. lol

There must be a country song on freedom? Let's see if we can start one.

This here song is dedicated to smarter.

The kids are all hungry and the frig ain't got no food
the car is being repossessed and grandma is possessed
life it ain't easy on nothing with nothing to do
but i got my freedom and that's all we needs
my wife says i'm lazy but she don't realize
time is short and the tea party needs signs
i make signs and yell at our meetings
cause i got my freedom and the tea party got me.

chorus

i gots my freedom
its all that i needs
don't need no government
cause i'm free.
 
CFM said:
You did say they were more valuable when you say one is needed more than the other.

Automation has replaced workers. Automation hasn't replaced owners. Tells me which one is more valuable.
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Once a company's jobs are taken over by robots, the company is no longer creating employment that benefits the US economy or increased revenue for the govt.

Explain how that makes the owner(s) of the company "more valuable" to anyone other than themselves.

Then explain the greedy, selfish, mentally deficient logic that goes into formulating such a half-assed conclusion.

Idiot.
 
midcan5 said:
Libertarians are like all ideologues, tied to ideas that explain, have emotional appeal, and are used to justify or solve all the problems and issues of the universe. The real world contains humans and other assorted stuff.

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?35631-Libertarian-Flame&highlight=libertarian

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...ness-on-the-American-Right&highlight=nutshell


Edit, this is from link above, I laughed when I read it. lol

There must be a country song on freedom? Let's see if we can start one.

This here song is dedicated to smarter.

The kids are all hungry and the frig ain't got no food
the car is being repossessed and grandma is possessed
life it ain't easy on nothing with nothing to do
but i got my freedom and that's all we needs
my wife says i'm lazy but she don't realize
time is short and the tea party needs signs
i make signs and yell at our meetings
cause i got my freedom and the tea party got me.

chorus

i gots my freedom
its all that i needs
don't need no government
cause i'm free.
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Nice, but "government" should be spelled "gub'mint" if you want real tea-bagger authenticity. ;)
 
Nomad said:
Once a company's jobs are taken over by robots, the company is no longer creating employment that benefits the US economy or increased revenue for the govt.

Explain how that makes the owner(s) of the company "more valuable" to anyone other than themselves.

Then explain the greedy, selfish, mentally deficient logic that goes into formulating such a half-assed conclusion.

Idiot.
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If the company is making more money, they are paying more in taxes and those taxes are far more than the workers would pay if machines weren't doing the job.

Who the hell do you think the workers are concerned about when it comes to getting paid. They don't give a damn about the owner just how much more they can demand for the job for which they knew the pay level when they started.

Nothing greedy about taking the risk, putting up your money, and making a lot more than those you hire that either don't have the ability or desire to be an owner.
 
CFM said:
If the company is making more money, they are paying more in taxes and those taxes are far more than the workers would pay if machines weren't doing the job.

Who the hell do you think the workers are concerned about when it comes to getting paid. They don't give a damn about the owner just how much more they can demand for the job for which they knew the pay level when they started.

Nothing greedy about taking the risk, putting up your money, and making a lot more than those you hire that either don't have the ability or desire to be an owner.
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And the bullshit continues.

Companies have so many tax loopholes that they pay barely any taxes as it is. The payroll taxes paid by the American worker are what has supported this country for a hundred years.

Brainwashed fucks like you will come up with any goofball excuses you can pull out of your asses to justify your nasty, fuck-everyone else attitudes.
 
Nomad said:
And the bullshit continues.

Companies have so many tax loopholes that they pay barely any taxes as it is. The payroll taxes paid by the American worker are what has supported this country for a hundred years.

Brainwashed fucks like you will come up with any goofball excuses you can pull out of your asses to justify your nasty, fuck-everyone else attitudes.
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It's not a loophole. That's the typical bullshit from the left.

It's not my responsibility to look out for anyone else. I don't have a fuck everyone else attitude. If someone isn't doing for themselves what they should be doing and expect the government to look out for them, they have a fuck themselves attitude.
 
CFM said:
It's not a loophole. That's the typical bullshit from the left.

It's not my responsibility to look out for anyone else. I don't have a fuck everyone else attitude. If someone isn't doing for themselves what they should be doing and expect the government to look out for them, they have a fuck themselves attitude.
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What's not a loophole, idiot? Are you now going to claim there are no tax loopholes especially for corporations in the US tax code?

You're even more full of shit than everyone figured you are.

And as for people getting help from the govt supposedly not doing what they need to, you are obviously making a lot of unqualified assumptions about them merely to justify your selfish greed.

You yourself just finished applauding the replacement of human jobs with robots. If a person lost their job to automation and had to get govt assistance because they couldn't find another one, how is that their fault?

You've just been hoisted on your own petard, retard.
 
Nomad said:
And the bullshit continues.

Companies have so many tax loopholes that they pay barely any taxes as it is. The payroll taxes paid by the American worker are what has supported this country for a hundred years.

Brainwashed fucks like you will come up with any goofball excuses you can pull out of your asses to justify your nasty, fuck-everyone else attitudes.
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Not according to IRS data which shows the top 20% will pay 87% of federal income taxes in 2018. That means the bottom 80% pay only 13% and much of that 87% is paid by S-Corporations paid though individual income taxes. So the wealthy and corporations may more than American workers.

I think you are referring to federal income taxes and not payroll taxes which is Social Security (6.2%) and Medicare (1.45%).
 
Flash said:
Not according to IRS data which shows the top 20% will pay 87% of federal income taxes in 2018. That means the bottom 80% pay only 13% and much of that 87% is paid by S-Corporations paid though individual income taxes. So the wealthy and corporations may more than American workers.

I think you are referring to federal income taxes and not payroll taxes which is Social Security (6.2%) and Medicare (1.45%).
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I think you're talking about taxes paid on personal income. I was talking about taxes on corporate income.

Many corporations end up paying zero in taxes after all the loopholes.

Even with corporate welfare, personal tax breaks and shelters, the top percent can still afford to pay the majority of the total taxes collected. Just imagine what they could pay and how much more revenue the govt could use, with just a small tax increase on the top percent.

And they'd still have plenty of money for themselves.
 
evince said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incom...dia/File:Households_vs_Individuals_Income.png

the top 20% make over 100,000 a year

the bottom 80% are edging by

remember the 80 20 rule?
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Thank you, exactly. That explains why the top 20% and corporations pay most federal income taxes and destroys the idea that the wealthy/corporations pay very little while the workers pay most.

$100,000 does not put you in the top 20%. I don't think those people are barely edging by (depending on location).
 
Nomad said:
What's not a loophole, idiot? Are you now going to claim there are no tax loopholes especially for corporations in the US tax code?

You're even more full of shit than everyone figured you are.

And as for people getting help from the govt supposedly not doing what they need to, you are obviously making a lot of unqualified assumptions about them merely to justify your selfish greed.

You yourself just finished applauding the replacement of human jobs with robots. If a person lost their job to automation and had to get govt assistance because they couldn't find another one, how is that their fault?

You've just been hoisted on your own petard, retard.
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Something that's done according to the way the law is written isn't a loophole. That's the excuse you big government tax mongers want to use. It's like the gun shows. As a private seller, I can sell to another individual provided they meet three provisions under the law. Best believe I ask. That isn't a loophole. It's in line with what the LAW requires.

If they were doing what they were supposed to do, the rest of us wouldn't be forced to provide those things to them. It's not the government's job to feed you, house you, clothe you, and provide your health insurance. It's yours. Those that demand such things are the greedy ones since they expect something they didn't earn.

I didn't say that was their fault. It isn't the taxpayer's responsibility to provide for them either. That's where you bleeding hearts have it all wrong. If you want them to have it, YOU provide it to them with YOUR money. You claim to have it. Take care of those for which you say you care.
 
Flash said:
You mean any surplus that was put in treasuries? How was there anything to raid in the first year. It was basically a pay-as-you-go plan with no real surplus until the tax increase of the 1980s.

If people (or the SS system) buy treasuries they are lending money to the government. Government is not raiding anything.
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In 1937 Roosevelt was using surplus payroll taxes to fund general expenditures.

If interested this is a great book on the history of entitlements in the U.S. It's not a partisan book. It starts at the revolutionary war and goes up to today. It's a great history.


https://www.amazon.com/High-Cost-Good-Intentions-Entitlement/dp/1503603547
 
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