There is the real silent minority....... SO disillusioned.....
The two party stranglehold............ If you are not voting for R or D=don't vote, that works for us, signed DNC & GOP
"A Republic, if you can keep it."
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There is the real silent minority....... SO disillusioned.....
The two party stranglehold............ If you are not voting for R or D=don't vote, that works for us, signed DNC & GOP
A lot of that goes to culture. American values. Too many people value avarice over morality. Too many people are pushing for self-gratification instead of doing what's best for America. Too many people are willing to walk all over others in a quest for taking care of #1.
One of my favorite sayings is “A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit.”
Nowadays, we just buy a chinese-made canopy; movable, replaceable and doesn't need nurturing. As Pogo once famously said, "We've met the enemy and he is us".
Truck Fump / h1b
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Geeko Sportivo
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Here is what I think! I think you can't see the forest for the trees. You're not alone, as there are a lot of other people who are voting REPUBLICAN against their own best interest.
You are Libertarian and Republicans are clearly not! YOU ARE EMOTIONAL ABOUT THE 2ND AMENDMENT. REPUBLICANS ARE TOO, SO BRAIN FART- YOU run and jump INTO BED THEM!
Democrats believe in a majority rule- YOU DON'T so you become an instant enemy of the Democrats!
That's OK, you want to be the enemy of democracy you've met your challenge! And it is a losing one here in AMERICA. RIGHT THERE IS WHERE YOUR LIBERTARIAN POLITICAL IDEOLOGY DOOMS ITSELF BEFORE IT EVER GETS OFF THE SHELF!
BECAUSE A VOCAL AND VOTING MAJORITY OF AMERICANS WILL ALWAYS STAND UP AND FIGHT TO PROTECT DEMOCRACY FROM HERE TO ETERNITY!!
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
You first.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
True to a large extent. Even many party voters are disillusioned by the antics and failures of our national politics.
In fact, they prefer you don't vote at all. They'd rather everyone would just shut up and let them run things.
This attitude was carried out by BidenPresident in another thread where she posted about Biden's "Decency Agenda" and followed up with these two posts when I wasn't 100% in support:
She conveys the exact attitude of the two major political parties to the 70% of Americans who are not ardent fanatic supporters.
Truck Fump / h1b
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and the attitude of globalist queefers like you toward sensible people.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
Lie all you want, Legion. The fact remains people have a sense of both your posts and mine. They can decide for themselves without comment.
Truck Fump / h1b
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you're a globalist man-queefer.
SmarterthanYou
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are you delusional with the democrat talking points? trump banned bumpstocks. He declared support for banning supressors. He supports the ATF going after ghost gun manufacturers that haven't violated the laws..........MOST republicans support every federal gun control law on the books........republicans are lying about their bullshit support for the 2nd Amendment
you believe in majority tyrannizing the minority
Geeko Sportivo
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OK, I love this kind of debate. I just had to figure out what type of libertarian that you are. My best guess is that you are primarily an autarchist! Please correct me if I am wrong! And if I am wrong please describe what kind of a libertarian you feel like you are.
Because I have to know how to best communicate with you individually, based on your ideology and your definition of libertarianism!
I learned a long time ago, there are many different kinds of libertarians. In fact, the Republican and Democratic parties are made up of them.
You are wrong. Dead wrong. You must not spend much time at gun clubs.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
no Libertarian should be advocating the elimination of government. I understand that government is a necessary evil, thus is should be as small as possible while still being able to do the job that the constitution requires of it, with all the limitations applied. The rights of the individual are paramount.........when an individual is free to do what they want with what they own, keeping the fruits of their labor, they tend to be more peaceful as well as charitable. That government that governs least, is best.
politics should begin with the smallest unit, be it municipality or county (for rural areas). states should maintain consistency of the laws according to the state constitutions afforded it. the federal government is required to ensure that no state denies rights to it's people because of an undesirable demographic.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
in my mostly conservative area, about 5% believe that we should be able to own machine guns.........the other 95% believe you shouldn't HUNT with a machine gun..........the key word you might have missed was FEDERAL........
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Dutch Uncle,
LOL! We can only wish. But if that pipe dream were to be real there would have to be a method to discern between use and abuse. Responsible use, no problem. Abuse is the concern.
LOL! We can only wish. But if that pipe dream were to be real there would have to be a method to discern between use and abuse. Responsible use, no problem. Abuse is the concern.
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
We are still a republic, Owl, but not a sustainable one with 50% of the electorate perpetually in a state of rage, no matter which side is in power.
That's no way to live, and "United" States of America is quite obviously not true.
If I sleep well once in a while, the state of the nation is not a contributing factor.
Geeko Sportivo
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If libertarianism was a good idea, wouldn't at least one country have tried it? Wouldn't there be at least one country, out of nearly two hundred, with minimal government, free trade, open borders, decriminalized drugs, no welfare state and no public education system?
I am just asking, not intending to flare up a war.
But Is there a country, anywhere in the world, that even comes close to being a model for a libertarian government, or one that is a better libertarian government say that comes closer to having less government than ours?
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello NiftyNiblick,
It's not 50%.
That is an inflated figure.
'A prepeutal state of rage???'
I would put it at 30-35%, tops, and I suspect it is actually far fewer.
Just because people vote a certain way, and some of them are 'enraged,' doesn't mean that everyone who votes that way is similarly motivated.
It's not 50%.
That is an inflated figure.
'A prepeutal state of rage???'
I would put it at 30-35%, tops, and I suspect it is actually far fewer.
Just because people vote a certain way, and some of them are 'enraged,' doesn't mean that everyone who votes that way is similarly motivated.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
Libertarianism is counter to governments agenda. they don't want less power, therefore they (both parties) push the idea that Libertarianism is anarchy or extreme, that they want no government.......and it works because most people are either too lazy to find out for themselves or too afraid of what the other side would do if they won, so they continue voting the way they have been. It has absolutely nothing to do with it not being a good idea, just that people are led to believe otherwise so that the two main parties don't lose their own power or support.
Truck Fump / h1b
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look at you, you disgusting status quo zealot.