America is headed for another civil war

[Into the Night]

You'd provide a link if he did. You always lie.

Go do your own footwork, ya lazy ass. Attempted negative proof fallacy.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

A chicken egg is a zygote, Asshole.

I cannot even stand to read your diatribes...let alone actually respond to them. It takes some effort on my part to do so.

If you have a single item you want to discuss...present that single item and we can discuss it. I may not be able to eat comfortably tonight, but I will do it. Pick out the single most important item you suppose you are making with this word salad of yours...and we will discuss it. Either we resolve it...or we decide we must agree to disagree.

Sybil never completed HS due to his, ahem, mental issues. Jus' sayin'.

Have you skimmed the forum in Into the Night/gfm7175/IBDaMann/Sybil's signature? A fascinating insight into a schizophrenic mind.

 

[Into the Night]

No, it is not. This is the moment where I ask any condoner of abortion two specific questions that they cannot answer in a rational manner without ultimately admitting that a human life is present:

[1] What species is the zygote, if not human?
[2] How does the zygote, from the moment of fertilization/conception, continue through all other developmental stages of human life (until death occurs) if there is no life present?


Science is not bullshit.


A child's body is not the mother's body.

And not at all... The only controlling of women that is going on stems from liberals. It is liberals who wish to force women (men too!) to undergo COVID injections in order to retain their jobs. You do realize that reversing Roe v Wade does not ban abortion, right??

I realize that Democrats seem to think that everything must either be mandated or banned, but that's not the way that things have to be. Reversing Roe v Wade is simply returning power back to the individual States, where it SHOULD be. Each State (and the people therein) can make law as they see fit.

No one is telling the dictatorship of California that they MUST ban abortion. They are still free to condone it, even after the reversal of Roe v Wade. Nothing has changed for them. However, there are other States (such as Wisconsin) which do not wish to condone abortion. Democrats want to force the people of Wisconsin to condone abortion rather than allow them the freedom to choose for themselves. Ergo, it is LIBERALS who wish to shove their moral/religious beliefs down the throats of others, not conservatives.

Again, conservatives are NOT shoving their beliefs down the throats of liberals. California is free to condone abortion if they so choose (nobody is forcing them to ban abortion). Rather, it is liberals who wish to shove THEIR beliefs down the throats of everyone else (they wish to force Wisconsin, Texas, Alabama, Mississippi, Wyoming, Idaho, etc etc etc) to condone abortion rather than allowing them the freedom to ban it.

Even with those States banning abortion, anyone within those States who doesn't like certain laws within those States has the freedom to move to other States that more closely align with their own political/moral views. If you live in Wisconsin and hate the fact that they consider abortion to be a felony offense, then you are always free to move into Illinois or some other State (or even the oligarchy of New York or the dictatorship of California) that condones abortion.


Still attempting to justify murder, eh?


It is not her own body, dude... It is the child's body that is being killed for the sake of another living human's convenience.


You are failing at identity, acting as if a child's body is somehow the mother's body and acting as if the species of the child (at least in the early developmental stages of human life) is something other than human (but then somehow transforms into being a human during later developmental stages??).

You are failing at reason, acting as if a child in the early developmental stages of human life is somehow able to advance through all the developmental stages of human life (until that human eventually dies) yet that child is somehow doing so while being dead.

You are failing to educate yourself, acting as if the SCOTUS reversal of Roe v Wade is "banning abortion everywhere" when it is really just returning control of it back to the individual States where such control belongs. I realize that liberals like yourself wish to universally mandate across the nation everything that you like and universally ban across the nation everything that you do not like, but there IS a third option called FREEDOM. There IS a third option of individual States being able to do as they each see fit. You live in Wisconsin and love abortion?? Well, you are free to move your ass down to Illinois where they (well, Chicago, anyway) condone such behavior.

They refuse to see any of this. Instead, they are using it to fan the winds of war.

 

[Into the Night]

Interesting how some on the right make a moral argument against abortion, then conclude just leave it up to the States, so what is immoral is acceptable as long as it happens in other parts of the country. Not a whole lot of consistency there

It is not consistent. Some States choose to allow murder of your own offspring, others don't.
It really is very simple.

The federal government has no authority here.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

a zygote is just a zygote, not yet a human being. That's an interesting argument which can be used to state that fertilizer is just fertilizer and not yet a bomb, therefore fertilizer shouldn't be regulated..........

 

[Ross Dolan]

Sybil never completed HS due to his, ahem, mental issues. Jus' sayin'.

Have you skimmed the forum in Into the Night/gfm7175/IBDaMann/Sybil's signature? A fascinating insight into a schizophrenic mind.

They make me sick, Unk. They probably make anyone with a functioning brain...sick.

 

[LurchAddams]

Go do your own footwork, ya lazy ass. Attempted negative proof fallacy.

As usual, you got nuthin'.

What's it like going through life -

With nothing?

 

[Ross Dolan]

a zygote is just a zygote, not yet a human being. That's an interesting argument which can be used to state that fertilizer is just fertilizer and not yet a bomb, therefore fertilizer shouldn't be regulated..........

You want fertilizer, S. Print out your posts; rip or tear the sheets into small pieces; spread them around your rose bushes...and you will see fertilizer at work.

 

[LurchAddams]

Sybil never completed HS due to his, ahem, mental issues. Jus' sayin'.

Have you skimmed the forum in Into the Night/gfm7175/IBDaMann/Sybil's signature? A fascinating insight into a schizophrenic mind.

Ironic, since we've lost count of the number of douchey personalities you display, Mary-Sue.

 

[Into the Night]

First let me tell you that I hate replying to you, because you are a major asshole.

Because he understands biology, and you don't.

A zygote is a zygote.

Good for you Frank! Next you'll be telling us an apple is an apple! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

A chicken egg is a zygote...not a fucking chicken.

A chicken egg sold in grocery stores is not a chicken nor a zygote. It is an unfertilized egg. Once fertilized by a rooster, it's a chicken. The entire chicken grows inside that shell, Frank. I know this is a difficult concept for you.

A zygote in the body of a human female is a ZYGORE...which is why they call it a zygote. A human is something entirely different.

It is a human being.

Slowly...and deliberately.

You can get all that information from Google.

Google is not God, Frank.

But until the human zygote becomes a blastocyst, it remains a zygote...NOT A HUMAN BEING.

It is a human being.

By the way, until a human blastocyst becomes a fetus, it remains a blastocyst...NOT A HUMAN BEING.

It is a human being.

And, until the fetus becomes a human being (lots of controversy on when that occurs)...it remains a fetus...AND NOT A HUMAN BEING.

It is a human being.

You are actually doing something that soldiers are trained to do to make killing the enemy easier. That is to name the enemy something other than a human being. No matter what a soldier calls them, though, they ARE human beings.

Correct. And what I said above would be accepted by most scientists.

No science here. Move along...move along...

Science isn't scientists, Frank. You don't get to quote everyone either. Redefinition fallacy. Omniscience fallacy.

Anyway...that's enough. I really cannot stand to read any more of your bullshit. You are definitely not worth the trouble.

Your bullshit. YOUR problem. Inversion fallacy. You cannot project YOUR problem on anybody else.

Last thought...a pregnancy is a unique situation...and the decision to carry a pregnancy to term or to terminate it for any reason, is the person in whose body the pregnancy is occurring.

It is, but murder is not a right.

 

[Into the Night]

Yeah, there are assholes like that person you supposedly debated.

Those of us who debate American conservatives run into that problem often.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! It's obvious you NEVER READ HIS POST, Frank!

 

[Into the Night]

The RW approves. They want to destroy the Federal government and both the Democratic and Republican parties are doing their best to divide the country.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You don't get to speak for everyone, dude. You are not God!

 

[Into the Night]

FWIW, I don't trust a single thing the sock says.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You are trying to claim yet another person that disagrees with you is a SOCK???????????!?

 

[Into the Night]

Translation: It's all the "woke assholes" fault. Always.

You're a lame fucking moron to never accept personal or party accountability and only blaming the opposition.

You're no better than any one seeking to strip Americans of their unalienable rights, dipshit.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! So NOW you are trying to claim compromise is 'blaming the opposition'! You ARE fucked up!
There is NO right to murder, twit.

 

[Into the Night]

So you are suggesting we (pardon this) throw out the baby with the bath water?

So because a few people each year abort because of gender (or eye color, in yours example)...we should throw out the entirety of a right that has existed for 60 years?

That makes no sense.

Yes, there are reasons given for abortions that seem VERY frivolous...BUT a woman with a pregnancy occurring in her own body should have the right to terminate that pregnancy if she chooses for whatever reasons she wants.

You ARE throwing out the baby. YOU are the one advocating abortion! Pay attention, Frank!

 

[Into the Night]

A chicken egg is a zygote, Asshole.

No, it isn't! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I cannot even stand to read your diatribes...let alone actually respond to them. It takes some effort on my part to do so.

Obviously! You can't STAND having your own illiteracy exposed to you!

If you have a single item you want to discuss...present that single item and we can discuss it.

He DID, idiot! The single item is abortion, or murdering your own offspring.

I may not be able to eat comfortably tonight, but I will do it.

Why? Have you killed someone lately?

Pick out the single most important item you suppose you are making with this word salad of yours...and we will discuss it.

YOUR word salad, dude! Inversion fallacy! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Either we resolve it...or we decide we must agree to disagree.

Since you vehemently insist on murdering offspring, and are willing to use word salad to try to justify what you are doing, you will never agree, Frank!

 

[Into the Night]

Sybil never completed HS due to his, ahem, mental issues. Jus' sayin'.

Have you skimmed the forum in Into the Night/gfm7175/IBDaMann/Sybil's signature? A fascinating insight into a schizophrenic mind.

Rule 14

 

[Into the Night]

They make me sick, Unk. They probably make anyone with a functioning brain...sick.

One sicko talking to another and patting each other on the back. Right.

 

[Into the Night]

As usual, you got nuthin'.

What's it like going through life -

With nothing?

Negative proof fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

You want fertilizer, S. Print out your posts; rip or tear the sheets into small pieces; spread them around your rose bushes...and you will see fertilizer at work.

Paper is not fertilizer, Frank! It's a mulch! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Obviously you have no idea about gardening either!
Now do you want to go down THIS road with your word salad??????!?