Are Blacks Are Too Stupid to Obtain Voter ID?

jbander said:
Good God, having the federal government take more charge of federal senate and house elections is already in the Constitution, The fed just has to decide the level of their charge as I told you , so this being anti democracy is just stupid. The right are pigs and what I'm suggesting across the board is nothing compared to the 250 bills out there by the hate party to take away the voted of democrats. We are stupid if we let them sit in the wings sniping, trying to bring down our democracy and country to force in a dictator. Sitting back is anti Democracy.Your comments are ridiculous.
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Exactly the difference. Why give them "more" if they already have the power?

Nice rant. Very Lefty "Woke". ;)

BTW, did you see Pelosi's Floyd gaffe?
 
Jim Eagle said:
Attack the messenger, but the quoted text is from Bishop Aubrey Shines.
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So what, being so called religious is meaningless. It is what you do, not your pretensions. And it is isn't about voter ID only read and learn or stay stupid up to you.

'In the growing community of charismatic Christian prophecy, faith in Donald Trump’s imminent return to the White House is a new dividing line.'

https://www.politico.com/news/magaz...-credence-to-trumps-election-fantasies-469598


"Giving every man a vote has no more made men wise and free than Christianity has made them good." H. L. Mencken

"The president [Trump] is a nationalist, which is not at all the same thing as a patriot. A nationalist encourages us to be our worst, and then tells us that we are the best. A nationalist, 'although endlessly brooding on power, victory, defeat, revenge,' wrote Orwell, tends to be 'uninterested in what happens in the real world.' Nationalism is relativist, since the only truth is the resentment we feel when we contemplate others. As the novelist Danilo Kiš put it, nationalism 'has no universal values, aesthetic or ethical.' A patriot, by contrast, wants the nation to live up to its ideals, which means asking us to be our best selves. A patriot must be concerned with the real world, which is the only place where his country can be loved and sustained. A patriot has universal values, standards by which he judges his nation, always wishing it well—and wishing that it would do better." Timothy Snyder 'On Tyranny'
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Exactly the difference. Why give them "more" if they already have the power?

Nice rant. Very Lefty "Woke". ;)

BTW, did you see Pelosi's Floyd gaffe?
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Good God read what I wrote, The fed can decide the level of influence, it is up to them, I'm saying go all in. What is it just a argument you are looking for.
 
jbander said:
Good God read what I wrote, The fed can decide the level of influence, it is up to them, I'm saying go all in. What is it just a argument you are looking for.
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Are you saying no new laws need to be written? The Feds, meaning the Biden Administration, can just say "Make it so"?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Are you saying no new laws need to be written? The Feds, meaning the Biden Administration, can just say "Make it so"?
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YUp within perimeters but taking over charge of the house and senate election yes , the law lets the fed control time, places and manner of Congressional elections , so as far as that is concerned yes .they can. As far as presidential election original the fed could only be in control of time, but it's been amended since then and allows more control by the fed but it hasn't been tested..They can also legislate through congress. It is in the constitution already to protect people from the obvious , hate groups and ugly's taking over government and laws in states, you simply don;t have a clue the reality's of state rights. The Hate Nazi's now in states they power would outlaw party's except their own , if it isn't in their state constitution, and if it was they could vote it out and do it. There's tons of ways that the constitution spells out to protect it's people from dictatorial Nazi's like Trump. a person like him taking over a state and be protected by states right, you wouldn't be able to do anything.. State rights abused would be a monster. and the writers knew it and through the years more has been added specifically on that issue. In simple terms when states rights goes crazy, like all right wingers think it should be . The fed can hold back money , the federal government can write laws holding states in check and as history changes the reality of laws the court can step in and totally redefine what the Amendment mean, and they do it all the time as they should. If state right were total control , it would be a total disaster. With no education, in right wing areas, keep them stupid is their motto. Add in taking away all regulations , even though the American corporation would eat our children for their bottom line. States have to be controlled by the fed, if there wasn't there would be no standards at all in most right wing states. Hate party states would be Christian controlled , bigoted, Chauvinistic, no safety net, anti Immigrant(xeniphobic) and transfer all the wealth to the top. Thank God for federal control.
 
jbander said:
This is what you said " but I do think the democrat reasoning is irksomely racist in nature." That is stupid. If you can't see why , why should any logic make sense to you and why should I wast my time trying.
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I really fail to see you defending your position other than saying "because"..... Why do white people think brown and black people are less able to get ID?
 
Nordberg said:
You think that because you have no trouble for yourself and project that, incorrectly, for others. ID is s a big problem for many. https://www.aclu.org/other/oppose-voter-id-legislation-fact-sheet
No Dem of lefty has said they believe blacks are too stupid to get ID, Not once, That has been an echo rebounding across the right. It has no base outside the racists and haters of the right,
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No one I knew ever had trouble getting ID. Suggesting that people are equal is now racist?
 
jbander said:
There is nothing in what I said that would lead anyone who has the capacity to thing, towards a conclusion your suggesting , its 3rd grade your type of argument and really really boring.
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quite honestly, you haven't said much other than "nuh uh" and "because".
 
jbander said:
YUp within perimeters but taking over charge of the house and senate election yes , the law lets the fed control time, places and manner of Congressional elections , so as far as that is concerned yes .they can. As far as presidential election original the fed could only be in control of time, but it's been amended since then and allows more control by the fed but it hasn't been tested..They can also legislate through congress. It is in the constitution already to protect people from the obvious , hate groups and ugly's taking over government and laws in states, you simply don;t have a clue the reality's of state rights. The Hate Nazi's now in states they power would outlaw party's except their own , if it isn't in their state constitution, and if it was they could vote it out and do it. There's tons of ways that the constitution spells out to protect it's people from dictatorial Nazi's like Trump. a person like him taking over a state and be protected by states right, you wouldn't be able to do anything.. State rights abused would be a monster. and the writers knew it and through the years more has been added specifically on that issue. In simple terms when states rights goes crazy, like all right wingers think it should be . The fed can hold back money , the federal government can write laws holding states in check and as history changes the reality of laws the court can step in and totally redefine what the Amendment mean, and they do it all the time as they should. If state right were total control , it would be a total disaster. With no education, in right wing areas, keep them stupid is their motto. Add in taking away all regulations , even though the American corporation would eat our children for their bottom line. States have to be controlled by the fed, if there wasn't there would be no standards at all in most right wing states. Hate party states would be Christian controlled , bigoted, Chauvinistic, no safety net, anti Immigrant(xeniphobic) and transfer all the wealth to the top. Thank God for federal control.
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Your Totalitarian Socialist state won't exist without bloodshed.
 
jbander said:
YUp within perimeters but taking over charge of the house and senate election yes , the law lets the fed control time, places and manner of Congressional elections , so as far as that is concerned yes .they can. As far as presidential election original the fed could only be in control of time, but it's been amended since then and allows more control by the fed but it hasn't been tested..They can also legislate through congress. It is in the constitution already to protect people from the obvious , hate groups and ugly's taking over government and laws in states, you simply don;t have a clue the reality's of state rights. The Hate Nazi's now in states they power would outlaw party's except their own , if it isn't in their state constitution, and if it was they could vote it out and do it. There's tons of ways that the constitution spells out to protect it's people from dictatorial Nazi's like Trump. a person like him taking over a state and be protected by states right, you wouldn't be able to do anything.. State rights abused would be a monster. and the writers knew it and through the years more has been added specifically on that issue. In simple terms when states rights goes crazy, like all right wingers think it should be . The fed can hold back money , the federal government can write laws holding states in check and as history changes the reality of laws the court can step in and totally redefine what the Amendment mean, and they do it all the time as they should. If state right were total control , it would be a total disaster. With no education, in right wing areas, keep them stupid is their motto. Add in taking away all regulations , even though the American corporation would eat our children for their bottom line. States have to be controlled by the fed, if there wasn't there would be no standards at all in most right wing states. Hate party states would be Christian controlled , bigoted, Chauvinistic, no safety net, anti Immigrant(xeniphobic) and transfer all the wealth to the top. Thank God for federal control.
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Do you have the balls to fight for those beliefs? Or would expect others to fight for you?
 
Turgid Member said:
I really fail to see you defending your position other than saying "because"..... Why do white people think brown and black people are less able to get ID?
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That's like asking why trees are green. You think you have a profound question, you don't. what you have is a neon sign that lights up and says stupid every time you ask this goof ball question.
 
I don't think these haters get it, people don't respond or care what people who lie all the time say. Nobody respects that type of person and their catch 22 is that they belong to a group that lives and dies by the lie. It is fun though , with this group it is always like shooting ducks in a barrel. I like easy sometimes, actually mostly for entertainment.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Your Totalitarian Socialist state won't exist without bloodshed.
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Totalitarian what a hoot , it wasn't my group that tried to bring down our democracy and country to force in a piece of shit for their dictator, Their isn't enough socialist communist or Marxist in this country to even take a count and their never will be , the only way the stupid can make it into a threat is if they define what they mean themselves , problem is they already have a definition and that definition says theirs is totally stupid. Fastest way to show your ignorance is this nonsense.
 
jbander said:
Totalitarian what a hoot , it wasn't my group that tried to bring down our democracy and country to force in a piece of shit for their dictator, Their isn't enough socialist communist or Marxist in this country to even take a count and their never will be , the only way the stupid can make it into a threat is if they define what they mean themselves , problem is they already have a definition and that definition says theirs is totally stupid. Fastest way to show your ignorance is this nonsense.
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It wasn't my group either. Good to read you have one up on the Qless.

"Tried to bring down" is the correct phrase but they never had a chance. Trump fucked them all by refusing to pardon them. I'm surprised the militia's haven't expressed their displeasure with him by now. They're all probably too busy running from the FBI. :)

Good luck with your career, son. When do you graduate?
 
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