are we all enemy combatants now?

700. National Defense Authorization Act (1/2/2012)

The Gift of New Year 2012 President Obama gives Americans is a new law that ripped their civil right – NDAA.
1. It is a stealth raid on people.

The Act was proposed in later November, quickly passed by the Senate and the House during the Thanksgiving holiday and Christmas season. It was signed by President on New Year’s Day Eve. It was a typical military style - a stealth attack on civil rights taking the advantage when people were relaxing their vigilance in holiday season.

2. So said mainstream media kept a tight mouth on this important issue. Blind the eyes of a lot of people.

3. Majority of law makers and the President passed the Act. It proves the “politicians” don't represent the voice of the people. It also proves the election system has been hijacked by the intelligence already. The so said representatives are not elected by the voters but selected by the rulers of this country.

4. Beware the Feds to turn the US into a “battle field” so they could eliminate the dissenters. It’s easy for them to do so – just plant a few provocateurs in Occupy Wall Street Movement.

5. War on Iran is their major goal. With great possibility, there will be false flag nuclear attacks on US cities to justify the Iran war. Most people realize the truth of the 911 attack. This law is created to deal with the people who won’t believe this government anymore when such “terror attack” happens again.
 
Obama sued over indefinite detention and torture of Americans act

17 January, 2012, 02:28

US President Barack Obama is the target of a suit filed by Pulitzer Prize-winner Hedges, and the reasoning seems more than obvious to him. The decision to take the commander-in-chief to court comes as a response to President Obama’s December 31 signing of the National Defense Authorization Act, or NDAA, a legislation that allows the US military to detain American citizens indefinitely at off-site torture prisons like Guantanamo Bay.
Obama amended the NDAA with a signing statement on New Year's Eve, insisting that while the Act does indeed give him the power to detain his own citizens indefinitely without charge, that doesn’t mean he will do so. Specifically, Obama wrote that his administration “will not authorize the indefinite military detention without trial of American citizens.” Under another piece of legislation, however, the government is being granted the right to suspend citizenship of any American if the Enemy Expatriation Act joins the ranks of the NDAA as an atrocious act approved by the president.

http://rt.com/usa/news/obama-hedges-ndaa-sued-933/
 
dune is still crying about this. ok dune...what exactly do you want to debate here? this is over two months old, so just give me a quick summary of what you want debated so you can finally stop crying about it.
 
Yurt said:
dune is still crying about this. ok dune...what exactly do you want to debate here? this is over two months old, so just give me a quick summary of what you want debated so you can finally stop crying about it.
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This is likely the most important news event of the year; a flailing slide down the slippery slope. Why are you not concerned?
 
Rune said:
This is likely the most important news event of the year; a flailing slide down the slippery slope. Why are you not concerned?
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By the way, this thread is current. It started a while back but has been continuously posted in.
 
Rune said:
This is likely the most important news event of the year; a flailing slide down the slippery slope. Why are you not concerned?
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you could at least be honest. you are truly disturbed. you spend all this time bitching in numerous threads that i haven't responded to some issue in this thread and now that i'm going to respond so you stop your incessent whining, you throw out a strawman. here is my first post in this thread:

Yurt said:
this is troubling. does anyone know if obama supports this or does he want to veto it?
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good one dune!
 
Yurt said:
you could at least be honest. you are truly disturbed. you spend all this time bitching in numerous threads that i haven't responded to some issue in this thread and now that i'm going to respond so you stop your incessent whining, you throw out a strawman. here is my first post in this thread:



good one dune!
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This is a debate tactic?
 
Rune said:
It's not false, you blew off this thread for two months even though you were repeatedly reminded.

Do you have any comments on the OP or not, and if not, why?
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you made the claim i was not concerned. my first post in this thread states my concern over this. thus, your claim is indeed false.

further, your whining is not reminding me of what were discussing. all you did was constantly bitch about it, but then failed to state what is you want to debate. and now that i specifically ask you, you raise false issues. first you lied i wasn't concerned, now you apparently believe i've made zero comments on the OP. i strongly suggest you reread the thread, because i have commented on the OP.

if you're going to bitch and moan for over 2 months about someone not responding to something, at least have something viable to discuss.
 
Yurt said:
you made the claim i was not concerned. my first post in this thread states my concern over this. thus, your claim is indeed false.

further, your whining is not reminding me of what were discussing. all you did was constantly bitch about it, but then failed to state what is you want to debate. and now that i specifically ask you, you raise false issues. first you lied i wasn't concerned, now you apparently believe i've made zero comments on the OP. i strongly suggest you reread the thread, because i have commented on the OP.



if you're going to bitch and moan for over 2 months about someone not responding to something, at least have something viable to discuss.
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Still nothing?
 
Yurt is not a debater.
He claims he wants to debate, but the chronology of posts in this thread proves he is a liar.
Groan this bitch.
 
Rune said:
Yurt is not a debater.
He claims he wants to debate, but the chronology of posts in this thread proves he is a liar.
Groan this bitch.
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thanks for proving you're incapable of debate. all you've done is lie since i came back. post 133 dunetroll....i predict you won't answer the questions.
 
Yurt said:
seriously? what is your problem? is it correct i expressed no concern? is it correct i never commented on the OP?
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Yes, seriously. You addressed the topic two months ago, not once since, though you have made multiple posts in this thread.

Your MO is clear and obvious.
 
Yurt said:
thanks for proving you're incapable of debate. all you've done is lie since i came back. post 133 dunetroll....i predict you won't answer the questions.
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Post 136, answered.

DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER INPUT ON THE OP OR NOT?
 
Rune said:
Yes, seriously. You addressed the topic two months ago, not once since, though you have made multiple posts in this thread.

Your MO is clear and obvious.
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it is true i expressed no concern? LMAO. my first post expressed concern. then you claimed i did not address the OP, that is also false. now....it is i haven't addressed it in two months. wtf? my stance is unchanged.

your MO has been to lie and insult. you haven't debated a single thing since came back to the thread. why even bother if all you're going to do is lie and whine? either come up with something you want to debate or stfu troll.
 
Rune said:
Post 136, answered.

DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER INPUT ON THE OP OR NOT?
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lmao...so now you ADMIT i actually did discuss the OP. no surprise dunetroll won't admit he is wrong or that he lied i have no concerns about it.

again...my stance is unchanged.

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