Are You A Capitalist Scumbag?

That is because we live in a capitalist economy. If we lived in a socialist economy there would be many of the same plus some different problems.

What is "because we live in a capitalist economy." Also, I don't live in a socialist country. (It is only a little socialist) So I don't know what problems they would have. But I can tell you one thing with absolute certainty. You can take it to the bank. Anything you hear our government tell you either through school or on some TV program is a pack of lies. So when it comes to socialist countries, the people who run our government would be the last people I would believe. I wouldn't believe them any more if they told me the sky was blue.
Take Hitler and WW II in general. It was all a pack of lies! For example, there was no "holocaust." And for what little holocaust there was, it was the allies that caused it! Also, ever see the movie "The diary of ann frank?" It was mostly dramatized bullshit. Or how about the movie "Schindlers List." It came from a book that was fiction. It was only loosely based on actual events. Very loosely.
 
Yes, those are problems the U. S. faces and most other nations regardless of economic system. The European nations have continuing problems financing health care and we periodically see doctors striking in France because cuts are made to providers. Those countries are primarily capitalist because the health care system is privately operated through competitive non-profit insurance companies (except Great Britain).

There is no such thing as a non-profit insurance company. In fact, there is no such thing as a non-profit company. If they were non-profit, they would be a charity. Not a company. As for any doctors in some countries sometimes going on strike, it is true that they shouldn't need to go on strike. But whatever problems they had, they couldn't have been too severe. Because I would have to imagine that they still got paid far better than plumbers or butchers.
 
“The potential to deliver ‘one shot cures’ is one of the most attractive aspects of gene therapy, genetically-engineered cell therapy and gene editing.

However, such treatments offer a very different outlook with regard to recurring revenue versus chronic therapies,” analyst Salveen Richter wrote in the note to clients Tuesday. “While this proposition carries tremendous value for patients and society, it could represent a challenge for genome medicine developers looking for sustained cash flow.”Richter cited Gilead Sciences’ treatments for hepatitis C, which achieved cure rates of more than 90 percent. The company’s U.S. sales for these hepatitis C treatments peaked at $12.5 billion in 2015, but have been falling ever since. Goldman estimates the U.S. sales for these treatments will be less than $4 billion this year, according to a table in the report.

“GILD is a case in point, where the success of its hepatitis C franchise has gradually exhausted the available pool of treatable patients,” the analyst wrote. “In the case of infectious diseases such as hepatitis C, curing existing patients also decreases the number of carriers able to transmit the virus to new patients, thus the incident pool also declines … Where an incident pool remains stable (eg, in cancer) the potential for a cure poses less risk to the sustainability of a franchise.”


There's ya a good look at american capitalism's values, from the mouth of Goldman Sachs.

You are a commodity.

http://healthimpactnews.com/2018/in...rma-sick-people-needed-to-sustain-drug-sales/

Please, do triangulate, it's been widely reported.

Gene therapy is sometimes overrated. And it is extremely dangerous to go screwing around with somebody's genes. But what you say is a good reason why it shouldn't be in the hands of a capitalist system. Because if any treatment works, it is going to make the treatment become less necessary. Which isn't a good thing when it comes to making money. So does that mean those treatments shouldn't be come up with to begin with?
 
You might choose to do what corporations tell you do, but many Americans do not. In 2017 22.2 million subscribers left cable and satellite services and in 2016 it was 16.7 million ("cord cutters"). Alternatives are available that many Americans are choosing. I don't think the cable and satellite companies are telling Americans to drop their services.

Corporations don't hold any cards if consumers do not purchase their products and services and they can't stay in business. If you really want to purchase something, they are providing a service the consumers demand. We are not all helpless to do what corporations tell us.

As for cable companies, are you talking about some sort of WiFi service? I doubt if what you paid would be any cheaper. And I don't like to be exposed to more radio waves than I already am. Next, I just told you that corporations do hold all the cards. They even write the laws! If you don't want to believe it, that's up to you.
 
The "power structure" is an elusive term meaning whatever a person's political views want it to mean. Americans pay less (as a percentage of their income) for food and other necessities than they ever have and less than many other developed nations. What do you want food producers to do for you? You can eat out cheaply if you choose, buy and prepare your own food, grow and produce your own food. You have many choices---if you choose to eat out corporations provide you that service, but they are not making you use it.

Conservatives think the power structure is dominated by liberals (media, Hollywood, universities, Eastern elite) and liberals think it is dominated by corporations, Wall Street, and Fox news. Both seemed convinced the "power structure" is controlling their lives and telling them what to do. The most helpless of us also believe astrology, the supernatural, and other forces beyond our control are dominating our lives. Others, with a higher level of self-efficacy, believe they actually have some control over the lives.

Endless war has nothing to do with corporations based on world history.

I’m not responsible for how others use the term "power structure", I have my own views and useage, and of course, the power structure foments partisanshitheadism, racial conflict, wedges over abortion/guns/gays, and all manner of divisiveness; goes all the way back to the aristocracy’s response to Bacon’s Rebellion. Revisit the Powell Memorandum, the system really laid it out there in black and white. Americans used to understand, well, what wage slavery was. Now they accept corporate for profit prisons in a post-industrial society with legalized slavery in the form of convict labor leasing. Here is an example of a corporate enterprise with stocks traded on Wall Street, lobbyists galore and think tank generated legislation with a vested interest in higher societal rates of crime, violence, poverty, recidivism, drug addiction, homelessness, job loss – anything that will keep prisons full and growing with profit margin growth to infinity. Call that observation “liberal” if you like, that’s what the blame and label game is for; distraction. Turns out this was rolled out as a pilot program in TN when now Senator Lamar Alexander was governor and the involved party was CCA. Turns out Lamar and his sweet wife Honey Alexander held stock in CCA at the time, win win. Just an example.

Or take Goldman Sachs', who always has a cabal of execs and operatives in the white house regardless of electoral outcomes by the way, recent advice to investors; cures in the health industry are not what they should invest in. Let’s look at their own words:

“The potential to deliver “one shot cures” is one of the most attractive aspects of gene therapy, genetically engineered cell therapy, and gene editing. However, such treatments offer a very different outlook with regard to recurring revenue versus chronic therapies... While this proposition carries tremendous value for patients and society, it could represent a challenge for genome medicine developers looking for sustained cash flow.”

This is no surprise to the aware, nor should it be and I’ll leave it to others to quibble over whether this is good, bad or indifferent. It merely is. And it beautifully illustrates american style capitalism’s loyalties and values. It has none to society or the citizenry, at all, not arguing it should.

As to the media, there were 50 some odd companies in the US media arena back in the 1980s. Clinton deregulated the FCC and now we have 6 transnational corporations that control ~90% of the content americans see. So sure, that’s a problem, but “liberal”? In the sense that a “liberal”, Clinton did the deregulation, I suppose so, but concentrated corporate power pushing a “liberal” agenda? Nah, a corporatist agenda that is quite willing to fund “both” sides just as surely as America arms both sides of a given conflict in the middle east.

It’s clear to many, many americans that money = speech means no money = no voice in your own governance. Scapegoating citizens as “helpless” or “losers” who speak truth will not prop this illusion of a system up indefinitely. To assert that there’s no manipulation of the economic system or our corrupt political system tilted to the favor of the substantial people is ludicrous, but must be asserted as surely as the emperor’s stylish clothing.

But really now, what does one expect from a violent society founded upon genocide and slavery that still yet stalks the planet like a 19th century colonial power both at home and abroad. At least now we’re all under corporate state surveillance.

Wall Street gets socialism, corporations get subsidized, the predatory health"care" system gets subsidized, even pro sports team owners get subsidized. As for our endless wars, nothing to do with defense, but rather serving the interests of the Wall Street/donor/"job creator" class and the military contractor and arms industries. We colonize the resources of others and go after leaders who toss out US corporate interests in order to reserve their own resources for their own people. Hell, that's not capitalism, at all! Stocks surge when the missles fly and we just - for the 3rd time - bombed Syria on unsubstantiated rumors that Assad did the gassing while at least one of those other times we bombed them for that was later debunked. No big deal, evabody still got paid.

At some point, the illusion will have to be confronted, america is what it is and does, not what it would rather imagine and pronounce it is. And the rest of the world knows.

America is what it is, and ya know what? It's OK to say it out loud.
 
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Nations that are mostly socialist are primarily communist nations because socialism is the main tenet of communism. Most European nations are capitalistic with an expansive social welfare system. Social welfare is not that same as socialism which is public ownership of the means of production and distribution (industries). Countries like Sweden got rich from capitalism and use that wealth to provide social welfare programs to its citizens.

Maybe it is only because the wealthy have a voice in this country. But most of the time that I ever hear anything negative about any sort of social welfare, there are plenty of people who call it socialism. But capitalism is far worse. Take the government selling highways to private interests. Any private companies top priority is the company. Not the public. Neither can any private company be voted out of office. Also, how in the hell could anybody think that a private company interested in making money do things cheaper that a government who's motivation isn't to make a profit.
 
I’m not responsible for how others use the term "power structure", I have my own views and useage, and of course, the power structure foments partisanshitheadism, racial conflict, wedges over abortion/guns/gays, and all manner of divisiveness; goes all the way back to the aristocracy’s response to Bacon’s Rebellion. Revisit the Powell Memorandum, the system really laid it out there in black and white. Americans used to understand, well, what wage slavery was. Now they accept corporate for profit prisons in a post-industrial society with legalized slavery in the form of convict labor leasing. Here is an example of a corporate enterprise with stocks traded on Wall Street, lobbyists galore and think tank generated legislation with a vested interest in higher societal rates of crime, violence, poverty, recidivism, drug addiction, homelessness, job loss – anything that will keep prisons full and growing with profit margin growth to infinity. Call that observation “liberal” if you like, that’s what the blame and label game is for; distraction. Turns out this was rolled out as a pilot program in TN when now Senator Lamar Alexander was governor and the involved party was CCA. Turns out Lamar and his sweet wife Honey Alexander held stock in CCA at the time, win win. Just an example.

Or take Goldman Sachs', who always has a cabal of execs and operatives in the white house regardless of electoral outcomes by the way, recent advice to investors; cures in the health industry are not what they should invest in. Let’s look at their own words:
“The potential to deliver “one shot cures” is one of the most attractive aspects of gene therapy, genetically engineered cell therapy, and gene editing. However, such treatments offer a very different outlook with regard to recurring revenue versus chronic therapies... While this proposition carries tremendous value for patients and society, it could represent a challenge for genome medicine developers looking for sustained cash flow.”

This is no surprise to the aware, nor should it be and I’ll leave it to others to quibble over whether this is good, bad or indifferent. It merely is. And it beautifully illustrates american style capitalism’s loyalties and values. It has none to society or the citizenry, at all, not arguing it should.

As to the media, there were 50 some odd companies in the US media arena back in the 1980s. Clinton deregulated the FCC and now we have 6 transnational corporations that control ~90% of the content americans see. So sure, that’s a problem, but “liberal”? In the sense that a “liberal”, Clinton did the deregulation, I suppose so, but concentrated corporate power pushing a “liberal” agenda? Nah, a corporatist agenda that is quite willing to fund “both” sides just as surely as America arms both sides of a given conflict in the middle east.

It’s clear to many, many americans that money = speech means no money = no voice in your own governance. Scapegoating citizens as “helpless” or “losers” who speak truth will not prop this illusion of a system up indefinitely. To assert that there’s no manipulation of the economic system or our corrupt political system tilted to the favor of the substantial people is ludicrous, but must be asserted as surely as the emperor’s stylish clothing.

But really now, what does one expect from a violent society founded upon genocide and slavery that still yet stalks the planet like a 19th century colonial power both at home and abroad. At least now we’re all under corporate state surveillance.

Wall Street gets socialism, corporations get subsidized, even pro sports team owners get subsudized. As for your endless wars, noting to do with defense, but tather serving the interests of the Wall Street/donor/"job creator" class and the military contractor and amrs industries.

America is what it is, and ya know what? It;s OK to say it out loud.[/QUOTE

Really?
 
The entire planet watched the world's staunchest freemarketeers beg for socialism - and get it - across both a "conservative" and then a "liberal" administration with the same economic "advisement" team while millions lost their homes.

Sorry, the illusion doesn't hold up.

True, but they only wanted bailouts (deserved or not) to keep them afloat. They didn't want government to nationalize their businesses (socialism). I don't think they are the "stauchest freemarketeers." Most large businesses favor regulation which benefits their sector and protects them against competition.
 
What is "because we live in a capitalist economy." Also, I don't live in a socialist country. (It is only a little socialist) So I don't know what problems they would have. But I can tell you one thing with absolute certainty. You can take it to the bank. Anything you hear our government tell you either through school or on some TV program is a pack of lies. So when it comes to socialist countries, the people who run our government would be the last people I would believe. I wouldn't believe them any more if they told me the sky was blue.
Take Hitler and WW II in general. It was all a pack of lies! For example, there was no "holocaust." And for what little holocaust there was, it was the allies that caused it! Also, ever see the movie "The diary of ann frank?" It was mostly dramatized bullshit. Or how about the movie "Schindlers List." It came from a book that was fiction. It was only loosely based on actual events. Very loosely.

The problems we face due to capitalism are because we live in a capitalistic economy. If you look at world data you can see things like unemployment rate, cost of living, etc. in other nations. You don't have to rely on our government although those figures are the most reliable we have.

There is plenty to support the holocaust without depending on government sources.
 
There is no such thing as a non-profit insurance company. In fact, there is no such thing as a non-profit company. If they were non-profit, they would be a charity. Not a company. As for any doctors in some countries sometimes going on strike, it is true that they shouldn't need to go on strike. But whatever problems they had, they couldn't have been too severe. Because I would have to imagine that they still got paid far better than plumbers or butchers.

Yes, there are non-profit insurance companies. They make money like others, it is just not called "profit." It is determined under federal tax laws. In the U. S. they are mutual companies owned by the policy holders and not stock holders. I don't know what the European definition for those whose health care system is run by nonprofit insurance companies (Switzerland, for example).
 
As for cable companies, are you talking about some sort of WiFi service? I doubt if what you paid would be any cheaper. And I don't like to be exposed to more radio waves than I already am. Next, I just told you that corporations do hold all the cards. They even write the laws! If you don't want to believe it, that's up to you.

Cable companies usually include wifi, television, and telephone options. If I wrote the laws I wouldn't make it so easy for subscribers to adopt alternative options and lose 22 million (2017) and 16 million (2016) subscribers with declines projected to continue.

If corporations hold all the cards, are you required to buy cable or satellite services? More and more people choose alternatives. So, they might write the laws (which Congress may or may not pass) but the consumers don't have to conform to their models. You seem to want the products and services they offer but not the cost.
 
I’m not responsible for how others use the term "power structure", I have my own views and useage, and of course, the power structure foments partisanshitheadism, racial conflict, wedges over abortion/guns/gays, and all manner of divisiveness; goes all the way back to the aristocracy’s response to Bacon’s Rebellion. Revisit the Powell Memorandum, the system really laid it out there in black and white. Americans used to understand, well, what wage slavery was. Now they accept corporate for profit prisons in a post-industrial society with legalized slavery in the form of convict labor leasing. Here is an example of a corporate enterprise with stocks traded on Wall Street, lobbyists galore and think tank generated legislation with a vested interest in higher societal rates of crime, violence, poverty, recidivism, drug addiction, homelessness, job loss – anything that will keep prisons full and growing with profit margin growth to infinity. Call that observation “liberal” if you like, that’s what the blame and label game is for; distraction. Turns out this was rolled out as a pilot program in TN when now Senator Lamar Alexander was governor and the involved party was CCA. Turns out Lamar and his sweet wife Honey Alexander held stock in CCA at the time, win win. Just an example.

Private prisons house only about 6% of prisoners and the incarceration rate has been declining. It peaked in 2007 at 7.3 million and by 2013 was 6.8 million (total correctional population).
 
What is "because we live in a capitalist economy." Also, I don't live in a socialist country. (It is only a little socialist) So I don't know what problems they would have.

Um, try denying everyone their fundamental liberties, prison camps, kangaroo courts, possible mass murders...
 
Cable companies usually include wifi, television, and telephone options. If I wrote the laws I wouldn't make it so easy for subscribers to adopt alternative options and lose 22 million (2017) and 16 million (2016) subscribers with declines projected to continue.

If corporations hold all the cards, are you required to buy cable or satellite services? More and more people choose alternatives. So, they might write the laws (which Congress may or may not pass) but the consumers don't have to conform to their models. You seem to want the products and services they offer but not the cost.

When norfolk, va was taking bids for the first cable operations years ago, cox cable was awarded the franchise (monopoly). Steve Stone did a big article exposing the fact that each official awarding the monopoly (franchise) had invested in cox cable beforehand. It turns out that they made a 1000% profit from their investment, $1.00 = $1000,00. Steve stone was then demoted via being promoted (kicked upstairs. Nothing ever happened about this scandal and nobody was ever brought to justice. I have a reprint of the article from the virginia pilot and I will show some excerpts later. This is public knowledge.
 
Yes, there are non-profit insurance companies. They make money like others, it is just not called "profit." It is determined under federal tax laws. In the U. S. they are mutual companies owned by the policy holders and not stock holders. I don't know what the European definition for those whose health care system is run by nonprofit insurance companies (Switzerland, for example).

A friend of mine is a home health care worker who works for a so called charitable organization. They treat their employees like dirt and exploit the hell out of them. My friend works part time. She is not allowed to get over 40 hours per week. it is forbidden to her. Also for some of the work she does her pay drops to minimum wage. The person she takes care of is a very violent young lady who often verbly and abuses my friend and pinches, punches and screams at her. The patient takes no meds for her condition because her parents have religious beliefs against those kind of meds. I think there are very few companies that don't have a secret dark agenda. follow the money.
 
A friend of mine is a home health care worker who works for a so called charitable organization. They treat their employees like dirt and exploit the hell out of them. My friend works part time. She is not allowed to get over 40 hours per week. it is forbidden to her. Also for some of the work she does her pay drops to minimum wage. The person she takes care of is a very violent young lady who often verbly and abuses my friend and pinches, punches and screams at her. The patient takes no meds for her condition because her parents have religious beliefs against those kind of meds. I think there are fvery few companies that don't have a secret dark agenda. follow the money.

I said nothing praising non-profit organizations. I simply said many European nations administer their health care programs through non-profit insurance companies. Greed and wrongful acts occur in private businesses, government institutions, and non-profit and charitable organizations. The type of economic system a nation has (socialism or capitalism) does not eliminate greed, unethical, or criminal behavior. Some posters imply greed is only present in a corporation.
 
I said nothing praising non-profit organizations. I simply said many European nations administer their health care programs through non-profit insurance companies. Greed and wrongful acts occur in private businesses, government institutions, and non-profit and charitable organizations. The type of economic system a nation has (socialism or capitalism) does not eliminate greed, unethical, or criminal behavior. Some posters imply greed is only present in a corporation.

they happen more in corporations

corporate structure lends its self to that

Profit first means anything goes

no profits are designed for people first


Profits first means a sociopath can run it

people first makes it much harder for a sociopathic type to find success in the endeavor


in fact sociopaths can excel in business

they cant excel in our government


the proof is the republican party

they place money over people

it has rendered them a cheating lying party that cant win without cheating and lying to the people

The voters don't like them

the voters vote them out

SOOOOO they began cheating voters our of their rights to vote so they could win

more and more every election

until they even resorted to getting a foreign enemies help cheating
 
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