Atheists are so funny!

Threedee said:
It does appear that we need to legalize bigamy, now, because I'm tired of being lied to about marriage just meaning "two people." It will be my goal to lay the legal sense of the word to rest in a cemetary from now on.
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cool.....we can change discrimination to affirmative action.....oh wait, that's been done.......
 
WinterBorn said:
The basic fact is that gays and lesbians have been so harassed and oppressed throughout history, they knew better than to press for marriage. They would have been killed.
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doesn't change the fact that marriage has always been a relationship between a man and a woman......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
doesn't change the fact that marriage has always been a relationship between a man and a woman......
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or a man and many women (muslims, mormons)

or brother marrying sister (egyptian royalty)

or woman marrying many men (parts of India - matrilinear)

or man and man (American Indians - "Berdache typically were men who dressed as and performed the roles of women but also acted as healers and spiritual leaders,
integral to everything from childrearing to mediating disputes between tribal members. Berdache often entered into marriages with other men in the tribe and sometimes with female warriors who had 'proven' to be men through their fighting skills." http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=408324 from same URL: "Many scholars now prefer the term 'two-spirit.'" )

Re polygamy/polyandry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygamy#Patterns_of_occurrence_worldwide

"According to the Ethnographic Atlas Codebook, of 1,231 societies noted, 186 were monogamous. 453 had occasional polygyny, 588 had more frequent polygyny, and 4 had polyandry.[8] "
and "The pre-Abrahamic Celtic pagans were known to practice polygamy, although the Celtic peoples wavered between it, monogamy and polyandry depending on the time period and area.[18] In some areas this continued on even after Christianisation began, for instance the Brehon Laws of Gaelic Ireland explicitly allowed for polygamy,[19][20] especially amongst the noble class.[21] Some modern Celtic pagan religions accept the practice of polygamy to varying degrees,[22] though how widespread the practice is within these religions is unknown."



So really? marriage is between a man and a woman? Humans have more imagination and love than that.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
doesn't change the fact that marriage has always been a relationship between a man and a woman......
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No it doesn't. But it does explain why gays did not try to get married sooner. And since your post stated that marriage has only been between a man & woman since this country began, it is certainly relevant.
 
Originally Posted by WinterBorn
When Cain left and went to live with other people and married, who were those people? Did he marry his sister?
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always wondered about that... Adam and Eve had Cain and Abel. How did they procreate?
 
Threedee said:
I blame Star Trek. Kirk slept with a ton of alien chicks in the short three year span that the show ran for. :D
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:) I am not just joking here, though.

When did Kirk use gay to mean homosexual? Use of the word "gay" to mean happy did not seem to die out. It was not until it started to be used by homosexuals that people started to avoid using it for happy. I think the etymology is likely such that it was sort of a euphemism. Flamboyant homosexuals seem very happy, so they were said to be gay. For instance, Uncle Arthur was always smiling even when Darrin was on the rampage.
 
tekkychick said:
or a man and many women (muslims, mormons)

or brother marrying sister (egyptian royalty)

or woman marrying many men (parts of India - matrilinear)

or man and man (American Indians - "Berdache typically were men who dressed as and performed the roles of women but also acted as healers and spiritual leaders,
integral to everything from childrearing to mediating disputes between tribal members. Berdache often entered into marriages with other men in the tribe and sometimes with female warriors who had 'proven' to be men through their fighting skills." http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=408324 from same URL: "Many scholars now prefer the term 'two-spiirit.'" )

Re polygamy/polyandry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygamy#Patterns_of_occurrence_worldwide

"According to the Ethnographic Atlas Codebook, of 1,231 societies noted, 186 were monogamous. 453 had occasional polygyny, 588 had more frequent polygyny, and 4 had polyandry.[8] "
and "The pre-Abrahamic Celtic pagans were known to practice polygamy, although the Celtic peoples wavered between it, monogamy and polyandry depending on the time period and area.[18] In some areas this continued on even after Christianisation began, for instance the Brehon Laws of Gaelic Ireland explicitly allowed for polygamy,[19][20] especially amongst the noble class.[21] Some modern Celtic pagan religions accept the practice of polygamy to varying degrees,[22] though how widespread the practice is within these religions is unknown."



So really? marriage is between a man and a woman? Humans have more imagination and love than that.
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Explain the multiple marriages of the men in the Old Testament, Solomon for one, supposedly their wisest Patriarch.
 
tekkychick said:
always wondered about that... Adam and Eve had Cain and Abel. How did they procreate?
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well, you might remember that in Genesis 3 God tells Eve that one of the consequences of disobedience is that there will be pain in childbearing.......that does seem to imply that there had been childbirth before.......and that it was painless.......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
well, you might remember that in Genesis 3 God tells Eve that one of the consequences of disobedience is that there will be pain in childbearing.......that does seem to imply that there had been childbirth before.......and that it was painless.......
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In other words, the bible is full of contradictions, and anyone who takes it literally is foolish.
 
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