BREAKING: Trump says he’s going to overturn the 14th Amendment with an executive order.

Into the Night said:
New York is not the United States, Poorboy. The 14th amendment is part of the US Constitution, not the Constitution of the State of New York.
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Are you saying NY isn't in the USA?
I am sure the people of New York would like to know that.
If they aren't the USA then the USA owes them billions and billions for the taxes they paid to the USA.
Your statement doesn't make any sense just like 99.9% of all your other posts.
 
Tbird19482 said:
Are you saying NY isn't in the USA?
I am sure the people of New York would like to know that.
If they aren't the USA then the USA owes them billions and billions for the taxes they paid to the USA.
Your statement doesn't make any sense just like 99.9% of all your other posts.
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Sybil is insane.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Hey! I’m an over 60 asshole who adores Archie Bunker. I sure as hell ain’t a MAGA guy. I’m pretty far from being a MAGA as I see Trump as an existential threat to the American Tradition of Government. Trump isn’t a problem solver. He creates problems.

Also, Archie was a good man who just wasn’t brought up that his words could be hateful and hurtful. Archie was a product of his time and historical events. He was raised and worked most of his life in white working class neighborhood. He had to drop out of school to get a job to help the family when he was a teenager. He then served in the war, went home, got married to a simple working class traditional housewife and worked a working class job and raised his small family. In the 1970’s his world took a big change when whites started leaving and people of color moved in. Archie was out of his depths and made many hilarious mistakes but, as we saw throughout the series, Archie learned from his mistakes, learned, adapted and grew in his character.

Do you think these clowns could even come close to his moral courage to change as he did at his age?

There’s no way in hell they would. Now get off my lawn. ;-)
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You're free to adore a bigot and, in this era, would be a staunch Trump voter. While the show was a caricature of a racist, poorly educated, blue collar abusive husband, to staunchly defend such behavior is W-R-O-N-G.
 
Jarod said:
I know illegals who pay taxes, they use fake SSN's so their employers think they are legal, they pay and do not get their refund.
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So they are engaged in felonious identity theft. No surprise you would support that. But then no, you don't know any illegal aliens - you just see them at the car wash.

Jarod said:
Defying the jurisdiction or rejecting the jurisdiction does not change the fact that it exists. Are you suggesting that if Citizen breaks the law they are rejecting the jurisdiction of the United States and therefore not subject to prosecution?
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Nope, the Administration is stating that illegals by violating the jurisdictional authority of the USA do not qualify under Birthright Citizenship. Whine all you like, the Trump team has a solid case.
 
Jarod said:
The plain wording of the amendment is clear, born here means you are a citizen. Reject that as you please, but its clear.
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The plain wording of the amendment clearly conferred citizenship on freed slaves. It had nothing to do with illegal aliens. As recently as the Eisenhower administration (Project Wetback) such idiocy was rejected.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Let's get real: Sections 3 & 4 of the 14thAmendment is what REALLY has the Orange Oaf and his fellow brethren nervous. They're nervous because the 2026 midterm elections are not a slam-dunk for the MAGA run GOP.
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It depends on performance, mostly.

But hopefully you Stalinists continue to run on gender mutilation of children and open borders. That will have a significant impact on the midterms.

But we have two years until then, two years with the adults in charge.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
Nope, the Administration is stating that illegals by violating the jurisdictional authority of the USA do not qualify under Birthright Citizenship. Whine all you like, the Trump team has a solid case.
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Wrong again, dumbass. Biden has never claimed that to be true, only fucking morons and psychos like you, son.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
The plain wording of the amendment clearly conferred citizenship on freed slaves. It had nothing to do with illegal aliens. As recently as the Eisenhower administration (Project Wetback) such idiocy was rejected.
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The plain wording of the amendment confers citizenship on every person born in the US whose parents could be subject to arrest in the US.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
The plain wording of the amendment confers citizenship on every person born in the US whose parents could be subject to arrest in the US.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
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99% of jailhouse lawyers agree with Sybil and the MAGAts. <----A good name for a punk rock band. :thup:
 
Uncensored2008 said:
So they are engaged in felonious identity theft. No surprise you would support that. But then no, you don't know any illegal aliens - you just see them at the car wash.



Nope, the Administration is stating that illegals by violating the jurisdictional authority of the USA do not qualify under Birthright Citizenship. Whine all you like, the Trump team has a solid case.
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I am not supporting anything, I simply know it is happening. I doubt its a felony.

So, you are acknowledging that they are subject to the jurisdictional authority of the USA?
 
Uncensored2008 said:
Nope, the Administration is stating that illegals by violating the jurisdictional authority of the USA do not qualify under Birthright Citizenship. Whine all you like, the Trump team has a solid case.
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I see you have decided to pick up the argument of an idiot and present it as your own.

Under common law of jus soli since the time of the founding of the US persons born in the US are natural born US citizens.
Under the 14th amendment the common law practice was enshrined in the Constitution. All persons born in the US that are not exempted because they are not subject to US law are US citizens.
 
Tbird19482 said:
What about it I wasn't talking about that.
I was talking about just what Trump's tariffs of 20/30/49 or MORE will do to low income people , the poor, people on SS and our economy.
Again the exporting countries do not pay those tariffs they just pass them on to the consumer.
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Biden kept Trump's tariffs on China, and Mexico is cooperating at the border, so it looks like a tariff won't be needed.
 
Neil N. Blowme said:
Biden kept Trump's tariffs on China, and Mexico is cooperating at the border, so it looks like a tariff won't be needed.
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And those tariffs were not as large as the ones Trump says he is going to impose now.
Tariffs can be good to a POINT but when they are so large they destroy your economy then they are not and that is what Trump's tariffs will do,
 
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