AND he is going to pretend they are cooperating.
BREAKING: Trump says he’s going to overturn the 14th Amendment with an executive order.
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What do you believe "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" mean, Ill understand if you refuse to answer.
Dutch Uncle
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Just like he made them pay for his wall. LOL
Neil N. Blowme
Verified User
Indians serve in the military. Explain that one. The sole purpose of the 14th Amendment was to ensure full citizenship right to ex-slaves and their descendants. You keep ignoring that fact.
Neil N. Blowme
Verified User
He doesn't have to pretend because they are and Trump hasn't even been sworn in yet. See how well things go when you have a strong leader instead of some weak smarmy corrupt political hack.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
What’s even more wrong is to create an anachronism. You seem to have missed the point of the show.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
A good example of that would be the Smoot/Halley Tariff act during the Great Depression. It exasperated an already dire situation.
Tariffs across the board is a terribly bad idea as other nations would retaliate and thus drive prices up.
When Tariffs are used for strategic industries in which foreign competitors are dumping products at below cost, then they are a good thing.
And your ilk will fall for it!
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
I understand the point of the show. What you are missing is that a real Archie Bunker type in 2024 is the anachronism. Is there any doubt that such a person would be a MAGA-voting asshole?
Dutch Uncle
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^^^
Dumbass still only reads the first part of a five-part Amendment despite multiple people linking him to the facts. Typical of MAGAts. Sad.
Persons who are not US citizens can serve in the military. Explain that one. (It's estimated that 4% of the US military are not US citizens.)The purpose of the Indian citizenship act was to grant citizenship to Indians that had served in the military even though they did not have citizenship.
You keep ignoring the words in the Constitution. You don't get to do that if you want to make a valid argument about what the meaning of the Constitution is.
Arguing that the purpose of an amendment eliminates all rights from before the amendment is rather silly. The purpose of the 26th amendment was to give people aged 18- 20 the right to vote. Does that mean that 65 year olds don't have to the right to vote because the amendment's purpose wasn't to give anyone over the age of 21 the right to vote?
IBDaMann
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... and you're about to get it wrong ... proceed.
Tariffs protect national industries, not just workers, employers, producers, suppliers, etc.
Not if the consumers simply choose to buy domestic products or products from other countries that don't have the tariffs.
If China sells subsidized widgets in the US for $100.00 each while unsubsidized American widget vendors must sell them for $104.00 each, everyone simply buys widgets from China because they cost less. A 20% tariff on Chinese widgets doesn't pass 20% cost onto consumers, as you indicate. It imposes a 4% additional cost onto consumers because everyone now simply buys American ... which then bolsters the US economy, and creates more jobs, and provides lots of benefits across the board. The ones who are hosed are the Chinese widget vendors who are not selling anywhere near the same amount that they were selling before, and Americans across the widget insdustry are protected.
So you are a Marxist, and that's why you have TDS and why you find it insufferable that America will be made great again. Fuck you.
Profits are a good thing; they are the underlying driver for human happiness throughout society. I know, I know, you loathe happiness in others. Fuck you.
I notice that you didn't name any names. You don't believe this, do you? Your greatest fear is that America will become great again, and you are shitting in your pants right now. As a result, you are a raving lunatic at the moment, flailing wildly and completely irrational.
Go on record with your prediction ... so that everyone can mock the shit out of you as everything improves.
I just finished stating that I couldn't think of anything more absurd than ZenMode's presumption of speaking for "scientists" ... and then you come along with your economics Down syndrome and pretend to second guess a self-made billionaire who was previously President, who has experience with tariff strategies, who has studied tariff economics and who has a firm grasp on the world financial situation.
How shall we mock thee? Let me count the ways.
Neil N. Blowme
Verified User
Did you read the Heritage link I posted earlier? Please read it.
Birthright Citizenship: A Fundamental Misunderstanding of the 14th Amendment
What’s the citizenship status of the children of illegal aliens? That question has spurred quite a debate over the 14th Amendment lately, with the news that several states—including Pennsylvania, Arizona, Oklahoma, Georgia, and South Carolina—may launch efforts to deny automatic citizenship to...
www.heritage.org
That scenario completely ignores economics and supply and demand. If China sells 90% of the widgets in the US for $100 and American widget manufacturers sell 10% for $104. If a 20% tariff is applied to the Chinese widgets, then widget prices will be $120. The American producer is incapable of providing 100% of the demand so they can sell their product for more because the demand is higher than they supply. The price point at which the supply meets the demand is $120. The increase in price will cause American suppliers to enter the market if they can produce the product and make a profit at $120 but there is no reason for them to price their product at $104 unless enough manufacturers enter the marketplace to increase the supply beyond demand.
IBDaMann
Well-known member
Oh, pick me! Pick me! The best man at my wedding learned English by being yelled at in English by his drill sergeant at boot camp. He was not a US citizen (and not particularly proficient in English) when he was recruited into the US military, but he was given a highly accelerated and prioritized path to citizenship.
The US military is always looking for physically fit individuals who bring diverse skills, backgrounds and cultural/language talents to the fight. Being a foreigner doesn't somehow prevent anyone from fighting/working for US interests. The only issue is the inability to hold a clearance, which goes away the moment said recruit becomes a US citizen, and many go into Intelligence for obvious reasons. The objective has always been to strive to have as many of the major languages represented by native speakers in every Army Brigade, every Navy fleet, every Marine Corps. detachment and every Air Force Wing, making US military forces "expeditionary."
I'll come clean by saying that I learned there was a country "Djibouti" by running into a soldier who told that that is where he is from, and that he expected to be a US citizen in less than a year (and he told me where it was on the map and I wondered how I could have never heard of it until then). I learned about the country of South Sudan in late 2010 before it had actually become a country from an Airman who gave me a rundown on how things were developing in her country and how her "people" wanted to break away from Sudan.
Has someone hijacked your account again and started posting that Trump is an idiot?
Who cares?
No one ever made any such claim. The issue is that anchor babies are profiting from criminal acts. That means the proceeds of the criminal act under law must be denied to the perpetrators - hence no citizenship for your invading forces.
In 1954 the government was engaged in mass deportations - and anchor babies didn't stop it.
Well that's just it, isn't it? Anchor babies were not considered US citizens.
Educate yourself.
Operation Wetback - Wikipedia
IBDaMann
Well-known member
Explain how I have somehow deviated from the supply-demand curve.
Perhaps initially, but then the industry grows to meet the demand, and the economy grows, and the objective of the tariff is achieved.
Nope. It's $104.
So you're not merely brainless, but gullible. X? Really? Dumbass.
Why would I refuse to answer this time? I answered the last 40 times you screamed "NUHN UHN."
{
This amendment’s language was derived from the 1866 Civil Rights Act, which provided that “[a]ll persons born in the United States, and not subject to any foreign power” would be considered citizens.
Sen. Lyman Trumbull, a key figure in the adoption of the 14th Amendment, said that “subject to the jurisdiction” of the U.S. included not owing allegiance to any other country.}
Birthright Citizenship: A Fundamental Misunderstanding of the 14th Amendment
What’s the citizenship status of the children of illegal aliens? That question has spurred quite a debate over the 14th Amendment lately, with the news that several states—including Pennsylvania, Arizona, Oklahoma, Georgia, and South Carolina—may launch efforts to deny automatic citizenship to...
www.heritage.org
That you don't like the answer and that it undercuts the objectives of your party in no way changes that you were provided the answer - repeatedly.
Did you read the Heritage link I posted earlier? Please read it.
Birthright Citizenship: A Fundamental Misunderstanding of the 14th Amendment
What’s the citizenship status of the children of illegal aliens? That question has spurred quite a debate over the 14th Amendment lately, with the news that several states—including Pennsylvania, Arizona, Oklahoma, Georgia, and South Carolina—may launch efforts to deny automatic citizenship to...
Thank you for posting that link - so well written.