BREAKING: Trump says he’s going to overturn the 14th Amendment with an executive order.

Dutch Uncle said:
99% of jailhouse lawyers agree with Sybil and the MAGAts. <----A good name for a punk rock band. :thup:
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I am guessing 99% of jailhouse lawyers are smarter than Uncensored.


Sybil and the MAGAts latest release.
Whining about Immigration! -

Lyrics -
Illegals, illegals, illegals!
Illegals, illegals, illegals!
Illegals, illegals, illegals!
Illegals, illegals, illegals!
Illegals, illegals, illegals!
Illegals, illegals, illegals!
...
 
The issue hasn't been pushed hard in quite some time. Hopefully Trump is serious and will exhaust all options to get this bullshit halted once and for all.
 
Tbird19482 said:
And those tariffs were not as large as the ones Trump says he is going to impose now.
Tariffs can be good to a POINT but when they are so large they destroy your economy then they are not and that is what Trump's tariffs will do,
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The entire government was funded with them at one point for quite some time. The economy was doing just fine.

The sky is not falling. Stay tuned and learn something. A little less talk and more listening would do you good chief.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
The plain wording of the amendment confers citizenship on every person born in the US whose parents could be subject to arrest in the US.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
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What you are ignoring is "Subject to the Jurisdiction thereof."

Trump will use the best attorneys in the nation to argue this. Further, precedent is not on your side. I can't really predict what the court will do, and it will go through the array of lower courts that will strike it down, appeal, rinse repeat. But eventually it will reach SCOTUS. Perhaps they will rule in your favor, that anchor babies are citizens - but that said anchor babies becomes wards of the state because the parents are to be deported.

Perhaps they will reject the anchor baby angle all together.

The chance that dropping an anchor baby is a ticket to chain migration continues is slim.
 
Neil N. Blowme said:
Biden kept Trump's tariffs on China, and Mexico is cooperating at the border, so it looks like a tariff won't be needed.
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One more thing do you have ANY idea what a 60 to 200 tariff on Chinese good will do to the manufacturing sector of the US economy ?
lets see we don't make any micro chips here yet , it will be s couple of years before that happens. and we do not make any lithium batteries here , putting 60 to 200% tariffs on those alone will do great harm to US manufacturing, US auto companies alone use a lot of Chinese parts in their cars, and tariffs on those parts will drive up the cost of an AMERICAN made car cutting sales and people will be laid off.
Then there is his 20% across the board tariffs that will drive up the cost of just about everything we buy.
The CEOs of the American oil industry have already come out and said that 20% will drive up the cost of gas and fuel by about a dollar a gallon. you think gas prices were bad before just wait epically if the tariffs are 30 / 40 % or more.
And the price of that fuel, gas will be passed on to the US consumer driving up the cost of everything you buy.
It is a FACT if you bought it it was on a truck some time .
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
I am guessing 99% of jailhouse lawyers are smarter than Uncensored.


Sybil and the MAGAts latest release.
Whining about Immigration! -

Lyrics -
Illegals, illegals, illegals!
Illegals, illegals, illegals!
Illegals, illegals, illegals!
Illegals, illegals, illegals!
Illegals, illegals, illegals!
Illegals, illegals, illegals!
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Without a doubt. Saner too.
 
Jarod said:
I am not supporting anything, I simply know it is happening. I doubt its a felony.

So, you are acknowledging that they are subject to the jurisdictional authority of the USA?
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First off, it isn't my argument. It is the position of the Executive Branch of the United States Government.

Yes, identity theft is a felony. Obviously we are not a nation of laws and the law applies to persons based on their political value to the party. So illegals, who are critical to the party as a means of fundamentally altering the demographics of the nation, are not subject to laws. But if this were a country with equal justice, the illegals would face long felony terms for identity theft.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
I see you have decided to pick up the argument of an idiot and present it as your own.
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I see that you think slander and demagoguery are the path to victory - despite the shellacking you just took in the election.

Poor Richard Saunders said:
Under common law of jus soli since the time of the founding of the US persons born in the US are natural born US citizens.
Under the 14th amendment the common law practice was enshrined in the Constitution. All persons born in the US that are not exempted because they are not subject to US law are US citizens.
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And yet as recent as 1954 illegal aliens born in this country were routinely deported.

Have you ever heard of the "Son of Sam" law? Once you look it up, see if you can understand why it applies to this.
 
Neil N. Blowme said:
www.heritage.org

Birthright Citizenship: A Fundamental Misunderstanding of the 14th Amendment

What’s the citizenship status of the children of illegal aliens? That question has spurred quite a debate over the 14th Amendment lately, with the news that several states—including Pennsylvania, Arizona, Oklahoma, Georgia, and South Carolina—may launch efforts to deny automatic citizenship to...
www.heritage.org www.heritage.org
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I wonder why you used a site that doesn't include comments pointing out all the legal errors in the piece.
I am happy to point out some of the errors.

American Indians and their children did not become citizens until Congress passed the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924. There would have been no need to pass such legislation if the 14th Amendment extended citizenship to every person born in America,

This ignores the fact that American Indians have treaties with the US. The fact that we have treaties with them proves they were considered not subject to US jurisdiction. A good example from today would be Kristi Noem was banned from entering tribal lands in South Dakota. They could also ban Donald Trump from entering their land and it would hold up in court because they are a separate nation. But we only need to look at the Constitution itself to see why that argument fails.
Art 1 Section 8 states that Congress shall have the power To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes. The Constitution itself shows that Indian tribes are not included in the States but are a separate entity. Tribes are currently considered a domestic dependent nation. All those born on tribal lands at the time of the 14th amendment would have been born in a different nation than the US and the land they were born on was not subject to the same jurisdiction as the land outside the tribal lands. In the Dred Scott decision, it was recognized that Indians could leave the reservation and become a naturalized citizen of the US and "if an individual should leave his nation or tribe, and take up his abode among the white population, he would be entitled to all the rights and privileges which would belong to an emigrant from any other foreign people." When you read the Indian Citizenship act it grants citizenship to all those that don't currently have it recognizing that those living off tribal lands may already have citizenship.

Then the piece completely ignores the clear language of the amendment to claim the authors meant something that is not clearly in the text.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
I see that you think slander and demagoguery are the path to victory - despite the shellacking you just took in the election.



And yet as recent as 1954 illegal aliens born in this country were routinely deported.

Have you ever heard of the "Son of Sam" law? Once you look it up, see if you can understand why it applies to this.
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I see you are still a loser and an idiot, Sybil, regardless which sock you wear over your head.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
I see that you think slander and demagoguery are the path to victory - despite the shellacking you just took in the election.
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Who did I slander?
Uncensored2008 said:
And yet as recent as 1954 illegal aliens born in this country were routinely deported.

Have you ever heard of the "Son of Sam" law? Once you look it up, see if you can understand why it applies to this.
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Son of Sam law is not retroactive to 1954. How big of an idiot are you?

Now, care to present us with evidence of US citizens being deported in 1954? Just give us one name.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
He'll damage our government and leave American taxpayers holding the bag, but I doubt the oligarchs will let him damage the economy too much.
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Well as I said if he puts on his tariffs of 20/30 /40% or more it will drive up the cost of everything we buy and the MAGAS will cry like babies but they got what they wanted so they have NO right to cry.
 
Tbird19482 said:
Well as I said if he puts on his tariffs of 20/30 /40% or more it will drive up the cost of everything we buy and the MAGAS will cry like babies but they got what they wanted so they have NO right to cry.
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I suspect the tariffs will be one of the first promises he breaks since they would, indeed, hurt the economy.
 
Trump is only one idiot.
America has been destroyed by the tens of millions of deplorables who voted for him.

The US survived a civil war, two world wars, and a great depression.
Surviving a second Trump administration is the step too far.

If real estate and resources were the only factors, America would indeed be a magnificent nation.
Unfortunately, the people matter as well,
and this past November,
we proved to have have the most stupid people on the face of the planet.

My contempt for the trumpanzees, without a single exception, knows no limits.
I recognize them--accurately--as devolved mutants lacking essential human attributes.

The major portion of our population are descendants of people who couldn't cut it where they came from.
Our gene pool was bound to do us in eventually.
We probably lasted longer than we deserved to.
But we're really toast now. Our Mongrel Empire is collapsing before our eyes.

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson, 1775
Religion....is the opiate of the people. Karl Marx, 1848
Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose. Kris Kristofferson, 1969
 
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