BREAKING: Trump says he’s going to overturn the 14th Amendment with an executive order.

Neil N. Blowme said:
14th. The entire Constitution is abused by Democrats, but 14th the most. My opinion.
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Thanks for your single opinion among 150M voting Americans.

Does you vote matter as an individual? No. As a member of the human race, your ideas and posts matter because you are seeking to influence people toward your views. Spiritually, do you care? Are you an ardent Christian or something else?

Do you believe in Truth or Hate? God gives us a choice.
 
Neil N. Blowme said:
That wasn't true until the Supreme Court decided it was true 30 years after the ratification of the 14th Amendment. That decision can be reversed.

United States v. Wong Kim Ark | Constitution Center

National Constitution Center Supreme Court Case Library: United States v. Wong Kim Ark
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The Supreme court decided that it has always been true, they do not make up law, they determine what the law is.

From your link... “[T]he Fourteenth Amendment affirms the ancient and fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the territory, in the allegiance and under the protection of the country, including all children here born of resident aliens . . . ”

"Affirms the ancient and fundamental rule" - what does that mean to you?
 
Jarod said:
The Supreme court decided that it has always been true, they do not make up law, they determine what the law is.

From your link... “[T]he Fourteenth Amendment affirms the ancient and fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the territory, in the allegiance and under the protection of the country, including all children here born of resident aliens . . . ”

"Affirms the ancient and fundamental rule" - what does that mean to you?
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Birthright citizenship wasn't decided until 30 years after the ratification of the Amendment. There are many nations that don't have Birthright Citizenship of foreigners. Check it out. In fact, most of NATO.
 
Jarod said:
You have a very hard time understanding the difference between opinion and statements of fact, dont you.

Did you never develop critical thinking skills?
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You really don’t get the irony of this do you? Oh you do make me laugh. I don take you seriously but you do make me laugh
 
Neil N. Blowme said:
Birthright citizenship wasn't decided until 30 years after the ratification of the Amendment. There are many nations that don't have Birthright Citizenship of foreigners. Check it out. In fact, most of NATO.
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But our supreme court said it was, an "fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the territory, in the allegiance and under the protection of the country, including all children here born of resident aliens . . . ”
 
Jarod said:
But our supreme court said it was, an "fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the territory, in the allegiance and under the protection of the country, including all children here born of resident aliens . . . ”
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Yes, that's what the 1898 Supreme Court said. The 2024 Supreme Court may say something different.
 
Teflon Don said:
If precedent was etched in stone the Brown v Board of education would have never happened. There is no way you can be a lawyer
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It is not etched in stone, but this decision was an easy one and is much older than Brown v. Board of Education, and the language is much stronger.

Sure the S.Ct. could overturn it, but they will not, and the law is clear. It would be akin to the S.Ct. saying the First Amendment allows an official establishment of religion.

Sure Thomas would vote for it, but not a majority.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
Trump said he would stop the insanity of Birthright Citizenship, not end the 14th as you lied.

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.”

Illegal aliens are by definition not subject to the jurisdiction of the country and are in fact illegally present.
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If illegal aliens are not subject to the jurisdiction of the country they are in then the US can't deport anyone since they US would have no jurisdiction to arrest or detain any illegal aliens.

The US has no jurisdiction over embassy officials from foreign countries in that the US can't arrest them or try them for crimes. The children of foreign embassy officials are not US citizens if born in the US because their parents are not subject to US jurisdiction.

The US could certainly change the law that anyone visiting the US is no longer subject to US laws. This would prevent people from entering the country as visitors to give birth. But that would also allow the cartel to simply cross the border legally and then have immunity for every murder they commit.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
Subject to the laws, traditions, and customs of the host nation.

Those who enter illegally by definition reject the jurisdiction of the United States.
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They might reject, but they are still subject to it. You do not think the United States has the right to arrest them and prosecute them if they commit a crime?
 
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