Into the Night
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There is nothing in the 2nd amendment that describes a brand name or type of weapon.
Democrats Should Ditch the Anti-Gun Rhetoric
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There is nothing in the 2nd amendment that describes a brand name or type of weapon.
Into the Night
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Into the Night
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Define 'children'. Define 'mentally ill'. Felons are in prison, serving time. They have forfeited their rights as citizens.
This has already been described to you. Argument by repetition fallacy.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
what is sensical about limiting the means available for defense of self and country, when those with real criminal intent will ignore that law anyway, and where is the sense in surrendering the means of having last resort power over your government should it decide to ignore it's constitutional limits?
There is nothing in the Constitution that defines what a "militia" is either, but according to the prefatory clause, that is what makes carrying a gun Constitutional
None of this has anyting to do with defense of the country, and defense of self should be limited when it endangers the lives of others
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
Exactly. Video of a hero shooting down an active shooter who just murdered to unarmed men. Why are you anti-gun all of a sudden?
Into the Night
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Denial of logic. Fallacies do not come from Google.
Rights do not come from Constitutions or any other piece of paper.
The right of self defense is inherent, even if the government kills you for it.
SmarterthanYou
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it has EVERYTHING to do with defense of the country and why would you consider your life less important to defend when others are around you??????
SmarterthanYou
rebel
strawman. and listening to alot of you about 'active shooter' when you 'say' you've watched the video, tells me that it's not about what you actually see, just what you want to believe....
SmarterthanYou
rebel
do you HONESTLY believe that the government has the constitutional authority to tell you when you can and cannot defend your own life??????
SmarterthanYou
rebel
because we are ALL the militia.....therefore we ALL have the right to carry guns.......why is that difficult to understand?
Sure they do, have something you can't refute, just go to Google and pull of their glossary of fallacies one you think might apply in order for you deflect from your inability, easy, have seen you do it nearly daily
"Inherent" where? Or is that too difficult a question for you
Into the Night
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2nd Amendment said:
Yes there is. The militia being referred to here is the right of a State to defend itself using a militia. It is not a prefatory clause. The 2nd amendment talks about two related rights.
1) The right of a State to defend itself.
2) The right of an individual to defend himself (do you know what 'people' means??).
One is not a condition of the other.
Neither the right of a State to organize a militia, nor the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall be infringed.
Both of these clauses is talking about self defense.
We're really going off the boat now, show us how an individual owning a gun has "everything" to do with the defense of the country
Why do you think everyone out there is threatening your life? What is this urgent need to carry a gun around with you inorder to just go about your daily activities? Have you been attacked by another with a gun? Do you think every other guy on the street is going to assault you if you don't have your gun? Nothing personal, but it is bizarre and dangerous thinking
Into the Night
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Use of self defense is endangering the life of another...the assailant. What 'limits' are you referring to. Be specific.
Self defense includes the defense of yourself, your property, your family, your community, your county or parish, your State, and your country.
Amazing, in the two hundred plus years we have existed as a country no one or entity has ever defined what the Founders meant by the term "militia," but suddenly now you know what they were thinking when they purposely worded the Amendment that way?
Into the Night
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Not quite. The 2nd amendment is talking about militias organized by States, and are a necessary right of a free State. The unorganized 'militia' that you are referring to here is not mentioned in the 2nd amendment.
The right of a State is not a condition for the right of the people to keep and bear arms.
The 2nd amendment is simply talking about two related rights. The right of self defense.
States defend themselves by organizing a militia. People defend themselves with any weapon.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
because WE are the militia. WE are the rulers of this nation. WE must always be in power. the founders had too much experience with being ruled over, so they created a nation where WE were the power.
I have been confronted by someone with a gun, and if you don't go around every day with the situational awareness that there MIGHT be someone out there willing to take something from you by force, then you're just being naive and ignorant.
YOU consider it bizarre and dangerous, but we see examples EVERY DAY of people who think like you, that nobody wants to do you harm, but they end up robbed, beaten, raped, or murdered..........now, if you are ok taking that chance, fine......but it does not give you the right to force that weakness on others
Into the Night
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Denial of logic. Fallacies do not come from Google. False authority fallacy.
Sorry. I forgot you don't know English.