Dems did themselves in!

[tsuke]

Hillary Clinton was the most qualified candidate to do the job of being President.

Period.

Her experience in govt beat Sanders and Trump together with thousands of miles to spare.

Most of the shit that was thrown at her was manufactured by the right and harped on by the media who just wanted the story.

We not only lost a real opportunity for a great President, but what we got in her place, is a pile of turds who is not only utterly worthless, but highly dangerous as well.

i actually think hillary ran a good campaign and maximized whatever advantages she had.

 

[Minister of Truth]

Turning the economy like the 2nd worst failed to do.
Lincoln is hands down the worst for killing 600k plus poo people for politics.

Are all presidents responsible for war deaths when our nation is attacked, or just Lincoln, because you like the CSA more than America?

 

[Minister of Truth]

Hillary Clinton was the most qualified candidate to do the job of being President.

Period.

Her experience in govt beat Sanders and Trump together with thousands of miles to spare.

Most of the shit that was thrown at her was manufactured by the right and harped on by the media who just wanted the story.

We not only lost a real opportunity for a great President, but what we got in her place, is a pile of turds who is not only utterly worthless, but highly dangerous as well.

Well, I'm glad that Dems are finally having this one out. This gives me an opportunity to say, for the first time, fuck all the Bernie Bros!

 

[USFREEDOM911]

If Sanders hadn't run in the primaries, we wouldn't have this disgrace in the WH right now because a lot of the negativity that his campaign generated towards Clinton would not have came about.

So you can thank him for giving us President Trump.

I was telling the BernBots it was going to happen all last summer.

To anyone who supported Sanders or voted for some other candidate other than HRC, next time you pass a mirror, stop, look at your reflection and thank yourself for helping give us President Trump.

BERNIE TRIGGER

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Wrong.

If he hadn't run in the primaries a lot of the FACTS that got thrown at Hillary wouldn't have come up and the damage wouldn't have been done.

But of course you'd talk that shit now.

Had Sanders won the primaries, you'd have called him everything but human.

Sanders' socialist ideas would've never gone anywhere. Just like Trump, he ran on false promises and pipe dreams.

FTFY

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Trump gave his rabid drooler fans what they wanted.

A loud mouth chest thumping insult hurler.

Exactly what you admire him for as he's good for nothing else.

Trump gave his voters Hillary??

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Everything you all spout ignores the simple, practical political reality that Sanders' campaign resulted in fewer votes for Clinton and helped Trump the disaster win the election.

Plain and simple.

So basically everyone in your family is now triggered!!

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Hillary Clinton was the most qualified candidate to do the job of being President.

Period.

Her experience in govt beat Sanders and Trump together with thousands of miles to spare.

Most of the shit that was thrown at her was manufactured by the right and harped on by the media who just wanted the story.

We not only lost a real opportunity for a great President, but what we got in her place, is a pile of turds who is not only utterly worthless, but highly dangerous as well.

Then the left should run her again, in 2020, if it's going to be such a landslide.

 

[Life is Golden]

Her experience was far more than Obama's yet she lost to him. How did that happen?

Exactly.

 

[Phantasmal]

Totally different situation from Nader. Nader should have known to drop out after he got his message out - he enabled the Iraq War by staying in the race as a 3rd party candidate.

Bernie just ran in the primaries. He moved Hillary more left, which was great, AND he created a passionate new movement on the left. Bernie's crowds were full of people who will likely be the future of the Dem party and shape the direction it goes in - and that's a good thing.

But he supported Hillary when he was done. He didn't take any votes from her. She blew her own campaign.

His support was not what it could have been, I primaried for Bernie but was disappointed in him in his support of Hillary.

There was just so much wrong on both sides during the election.

 

[Minister of Truth]

His support was not what it could have been, I primaried for Bernie but was disappointed in him in his support of Hillary.

There was just so much wrong on both sides during the election.

I remember being happy when Lyin' Ted snubbed Douchebag Donald at the RNC when he told everyone to "vote their conscience." In the end, though, leaders of both parties came around to endorsing the nominee, and Lyin' Ted campaigned for Douchebag Donald in Texass.

 

[Althea]

Sanders stuck us with Trump by running.

He should've stayed the fuck out because he had no chance.

He was to the 2016 election what Ralph Nader was to the 2000 election.

By sticking their never had a chance to begin with noses in something they shouldn't have, they helped hand two elections to the two worst presidents in history.

Nader was all about selling books. He got a tepid response at the polls.

Sanders, on the other hand, would have won the election. Sure...he wasn't as qualified to legislate as Clinton, but look at what we ended up with.

I believe the issue here is that Dems decided that it was Hillary's 'turn'.


In the political climate we had last year, Sanders would have broken records at the voting booth. He had what Hillary incorrectly believed that she had.....Obama's base.

 

[Phantasmal]

I remember being happy when Lyin' Ted snubbed Douchebag Donald at the RNC when he told everyone to "vote their conscience." In the end, though, leaders of both parties came around to endorsing the nominee, and Lyin' Ted campaigned for Douchebag Donald in Texass.

He is disgusting, he acted so insulted, then groveled when Trump became President. I despise the piece of dog vomit.

 

[Althea]

If Sanders hadn't run in the primaries, we wouldn't have this disgrace in the WH right now because a lot of the negativity that his campaign generated towards Clinton would not have came about.

So you can thank him for giving us President Trump.

I was telling the BernBots it was going to happen all last summer.

To anyone who supported Sanders or voted for some other candidate other than HRC, next time you pass a mirror, stop, look at your reflection and thank yourself for helping give us President Trump.

I seem to remember a rather civil discourse between Sanders/Clinton. 'I don't want to hear about those damned emails' seems to come back to me now.


There is no denying that trump's Jerry Springer approach to politics worked. Comey's big mouth and incompetence (we found out after the election that trump had been under investigation by the FBI for months, but that didn't merit public mention?) changed things at the last minute. Credit Weiner the pervert as well.


Overwhelmingly, Clinton's problem was a lack of enthusiasm by the young voters. They would have flooded to the polls for Sanders, as they did for Obama.


Couple that with the fact that the DNC's dirty deeds were made public, and we have a perfect situation for a moron like trump.

 

[Althea]

There were no dirty tricks.

A few emailed suggestions probably not even meant seriously but nothing unfair was ever actually done to Sanders.

And as the primaries moved west, he got his ass kicked worse and worse.

What we saw were closed primaries going to Clinton, and open primaries overwhelmingly going to Sanders.


Re. 'dirty tricks', I believe that the super delegate debacle turned off Obama's/Sanders' base, and they decided to teach the DNC a lesson.

Ironic, because Republicans wanted to adopt the SD policy in order to avoid another trump in the future.


Go figure. I think it's safe to say that this election was like none other in history. The electorate didn't care much about competence/qualifications. They were out to send a message. trump/Sanders were polar opposites, but they had one thing in common. They weren't the status quo. Given the choice, the voters would have chosen Sanders by a landslide.

Which means nothing. We'd still have gridlock in Congress, albeit with a rather weighty Dem majority in the Senate, and a very closely balanced House.

 

[Althea]

A lot of Bernie supporters voted for Trump or that other Green Party whatsername gal.

Stein.

Which kind of detracts from your point...no? Take those votes away from trump, and Bernie is POTUS

That took votes away from her and gave us Trump

Face it.

The Bernie Progressives hurt Clinton and helped Trump win.

I think you make the same mistake Clinton made.....she assumed that certain votes were 'hers'. That's a flawed approach.


How much blame does Bill Clinton get? WTF was he thinking when he gave Republicans that soundbite about how ACA is crazy? Or that meeting with Lynch? I believe Bill sabotaged Hillary's campaign on purpose. Why else would he bash ACA?

 

[Althea]

I voted for Stein....

I was not going to vote for the trump or her. Johnson

We can second & 3rd guess the what if's, but she lost, lost on her own IMHO..

You live in a state that gave you that privilege. You can vote for Mickey Mouse, and a Dem would still win the state.

 

[Althea]

Thank yourself for Trump.

You have no right to complain about him now.

You helped foist him upon us.

Painful as that may be to admit.

California overwhelmingly voted for Clinton

 

[Althea]

I'm sorry .. but anyone who thinks Sanders would have won hasn't been paying attention.

Republicans wanted Sanders to be the nominee because they were going to destroy him with their opposition research. Anyone ask themselves why republicans didn't attack Sanders?

In 1972, when he was 31, Sanders wrote a fictitious essay in which he described a woman enjoying being raped by three men. Yes, there is an explanation for it — a long, complicated one, just like the one that would make clear why the Clinton emails story was nonsense. And we all know how well that worked out.

Sanders was on unemployment until his mid-30s

He stole electricity from a neighbor after failing to pay his bills

He co-sponsored a bill to ship Vermont’s nuclear waste to a poor Hispanic community in Texas, where it could be dumped

He voted against the Amber Alert system

He criticized Clinton for supporting the 1994 crime bill that he voted for

Republicans had video of Sanders at a 1985 rally thrown by the leftist Sandinista government in Nicaragua where half a million people chanted, “Here, there, everywhere/the Yankee will die,’’

Bernie Sanders promised to raise taxes on just about everyone, including the middle class.

In other words, the belief that Sanders would have walked into the White House based on polls taken before anyone really attacked him is a delusion built on a scaffolding of political ignorance.

Hillary Clinton was your one and only choice to beat the worst fucking president in American history .. and SANDERS SUPPORTERS helped to elect him.

While this might be true, trump had plenty of baggage that meant nothing to his base. Likewise, Sanders' baggage would have been ignored by Democrats who would have fallen in line, as well as the Progressives who refused to vote at all.

You're conflating this election with every other election in history. 2016 was like no other year in our lifetime.

 

[Althea]

Hillary could have stayed out of the race completely. She was already divisive, she was already not trusted, she had already shown she didn't have the charisma... yet she ran anyway. The DNC annointed her. Sanders would have beaten Trump. Hillary is the one that should have bowed out for the sake of the country. But she and the DNC decided it was 'her turn'.

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