Into the Night
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You can't write computer games without algebra, trigonometry, matrix mathematics, and extensive knowledge of advanced algorithms and data structures.
Florida Governor orders schools to drop standards for academic performance
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You can't write computer games without algebra, trigonometry, matrix mathematics, and extensive knowledge of advanced algorithms and data structures.
I sure hope you haven't misunderstood what I am saying ... I am ALL FOR ALGEBRA AND THE ADVANCED MATHEMATICS ... My point is ... the algebra that is being taught is devoid of ALL the elements. Yeah, the kid can add two A and three A ... but can't divide two A and three A . BTW ... how many HS grads know ALL the multiplication tables ???
By “ALL” I am assuming you mean through 12 x 12. I’ll venture about 15% of high school grads. Sad but true from my experience. Then the number that know their perfect square numbers through 400 (20 x 20) … I’d say that number drops to less than 3%. I wish it were better.
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That's why I call her PoliBullshitter, truly odious nasty woman.
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That's truly insane, I'll also guarantee that they can't do mental arithmetic to save their lives.
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Too tough for you to handle, eh?
You've picked on the wrong one, LR is a smart man who teaches maths.
my skills are fading; tournament chess games a thing of the past. I was never great , but no patzer either.
I still have pattern recognition and strategic abilities on par with the high scool kid that beat me last live game
I played. I could hear my rusty brain wheels counting the moves in my head
Young minds are nimble and should be able to teach to anything, Need a teach that inspires them
gemini104104
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Gov. DeSantis Announces End Of ‘Florida Standards Assessment’ In Schools (msn.com)
Will ReTrumplicans administer snake handling, vaccine denial and flat earth appreciation credits instead?
It's so "customizable" not to prove your kids know the three Rs
It would be great if the DOJ, in particular, were to intervene there and arrest DeSantis at defending and coming to the aid of Florida as a result of this repuke's atrocities of crimes against humanity, etc.
TOP
Retired Teacher
Everyone learns differently...has different situations...cognitive, emotional, social, environmental....why not take an approach which will optimize learning?
(Algebra applications in auto class might very well be much easier to learn for some than just sitting in class staring at the board....Know your students...There are so many options available.... I do think it's important to be able to make change...don't you?
ThatOwlWoman
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As I recall, in h.s. the advanced math classes were geometry, trig, calculus, and Algebra II. H.S. was grades 10-12 but classes you took in 9th grade (which was lumped in with 7th and 8th grades and called jr. high) counted towards your graduation credits. That was when I took "baby math." Despite the fact that they went to a small rural h.s., my youngest two were able to take the above in h.s., plus they offered honors English and college mathematics (calculus, trig) for college credit. Both of them got their college math and English requirements out of the way while still in h.s. Parents of course had to pay for the college credit courses, but even so it was a lot cheaper than actual college tuition.
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You would be correct....
Many today are lost without their phones....of course, if you have no idea what a percentage is, even the phone won't help....
Gov. DeSantis Announces End Of ‘Florida Standards Assessment’ In Schools (msn.com)
Will ReTrumplicans administer snake handling, vaccine denial and flat earth appreciation credits instead?
It's so "customizable" not to prove your kids know the three Rs
I actually agree with the Death Santis on this one.
But I am going to enjoy watching all my uptight Republican friends flip flop on this issue. They loved it when governor Bush instituted standardized testing.
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Some of the thread participants here should spend about a week in a HS classroom....they'd sing a different song...
Though I doubt they'd last a day or two....
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Schools need to be constantly changing and evolving...No one is going to "flip flop"....
In the small rural school where I graduated (and where I’ve taught math for 33+ years) graduation requirements in the 80’s was two maths. They offered Alg I, Alg II and Geometry for college bound students and General Math and Consumer Math for non college bound students. A semester of General Business was also required. I took them all. As an old guy, looking back and seeing how my classmates have fared through the years (most have done quite well) I think everyone should have been required to t that Consumer Math course.
My son just graduated from the same school. Requirements have changed, budgets have been cut, teachers have been RIFed so fewer math classes are taught. Requirements to graduate, per our state, are at least 3 maths with Alg I being the lowest level and all other courses having to be equal to or greater in rigor than Alg I. There is no room in the day for nor enough teachers to teach a General Business or Consumer Math class.
Ours is a small school. My son graduated with 16 others. He an another classmate are freshmen at OU, both in freshman level Calculus. He started with 12 credit hours from concurrent work while in High School. 2 of his other classmates are in college as well and will do fine. Two are in Tech School, one studying law enforcement (wants to be a game warden) and one becoming a certified electrician. The rest will do various other jobs.
If, as their math teacher, I held their feet to the fire and made them all perform in Algebra II and Geometry at a satisfactory level, about 5 of them would fail. I have the option to require less for satisfactory work. Even though this works it is not the best situation for the kids or for the teacher. There need to be more options like there were in the 80’s for fulfilling Mathematics requirements for graduation from high school. I’ll say it again: Not all kids need Algebra. And I’ll add: All kids need to learn how to be a competent consumer.
Kids drop out of high school all the time. It is very difficult for them to be successful when they do. Many give “academic struggles” as their reason for dropping out. Of those who drop out and give “academic struggles” as their reason, something like 80% or more give math as the subject causing that struggle. There has to be a better way to prepare kids for life after high school without giving them an excuse to throw their hands up and quit.
I’m all for a certain amount of testing. How much those tests mean to a kids future or to a school’s funding is where there needs to be change … edited to add: and taking into consideration a student’s prospective post high school goals.
ThatOwlWoman
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I like that consumer math idea. Our district rolled that into the required civics class in 9th grade. One quarter was devoted to creating a family budget, learning how to fill out a 1040, how the stock markets work including having to pick three stocks to follow during the quarter and write a paper on how well (or poorly) they did, and why -- which meant reading the financial section of the daily newspaper. It was an Economics 101 Lite, basically. We also had to learn the Missouri and U.S. Constitutions, memorize a bunch of stuff about them, and had to write a letter to one of our congresscritters or Senators about some issue affecting kids/students. Does your district require Civics as well?
Your son -- no way was HE getting out of math lightly. lol Has he chosen a major yet?