Florida Governor orders schools to drop standards for academic performance

[leaningright]

…I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever. But not like that nitwit Wallace wanted. By “college bound students” and “non college bound students.” And do away with this math requirement phraseology “rigor equal to or greater than Algebra I.” Not everyone needs that.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Just like Oregon's governor did...

 

[Cypress]

My h.s. required two years of math to graduate; I do not know if this was a state requirement or the district's, or if a district can have tougher standards than the state. The only math offered below algebra was a general course, so you ended up having to take algebra whether you wanted to or not. I wanted not. lol

They also offered a vo-tech program where kids went to the h.s. half a day and to a training facility the other half. When they graduated they had a good basic education, plus a trade skill so that they could get a job right away, or become an apprentice. That district still ranks in the top ten in Missouri.

This sounds like a good plan, don't you think?

We started algebra in 8th grade middle school.

I thought algebra was the most basic math one could take in high school, there was no back tracking to baby math and arithmetic.

My recollection is that it was the trigonometry, advanced algebra and pre-calculus which were high school electives.

But maybe I just wasn't aware that there was a second track for grease monkeys who just wanted to take Auto shop class.

 

[Nordberg]

A year without classes and some people using the internet has resulted in a half-assed year of education. You can skip the whole year and restart like it never happened. Or cut down the testing. Then they can catch up in school the next year. It is a serious problem.

 

[Into the Night]

In America, not all high school graduates are educated to a college level. You can get a college bound high school diploma, or a non-college bound high school diploma.

Contextomy fallacy. Semantics fallacy. Graduating students from high school without being able to do algebra, or even arithmetic is a problem. Students do not know history, science, mathematics, or even how to form an English sentence properly, yet they graduated high school.

 

[Into the Night]

There are different types of diplomas and requirements...that doesn't mean that anyone who wants to should not be able to go on to college if they want to If that were the case no special needs students would ever be able to attend...and be successful...And some most certainly do...

It's an irrelevant straw man he is arguing.

 

[Into the Night]

I believe anyone should be allowed to upgrade their education to be ready for college.

Which is why the remedial programs in colleges.

 

[Into the Night]

It used to be there was no Algebra requirement to graduate from high school,

Algebra is too tough for ya, eh?

but there was an Algebra requirement to go to [most] colleges.

Algebra is too tough for ya, eh?

So one could graduate from high school with a diploma that would not allow immediate access to college.

Not knowing algebra, arithmetic, the English language, history, or science...and yet they graduate high school.

A student with such a high school diploma could take non-college Algebra at a community college.

Algebra is too tough for ya, eh?

Now 20 states require Algebra to graduate from high school. That is still a minority of the states.

Making shit up again.

There is a debate whether high school should be about always preparing students for college or not.

No, it is not. Contextomy fallacy. Go read the OP again (if you can).

 

[Into the Night]

That's why college offer courses to do just that... Many colleges provide accommodations for special needs students if necessary....

Remedial courses that teach stuff that should've been learned in high school or earlier are common.

 

[Into the Night]

Not every student will benefit from a college degree...I'm sure you know people with ones that they've never been able to use....
Better to provide life skills (home ec, ind arts, etc)/voc training classes to everyone instead of requiring Algebra..

So, being unable to make change at a cash register is not a 'life skill' to you?

 

[Into the Night]

Individualizing education as much as possible is the very best option these days...

Why?

 

[Into the Night]

[FONT=&]What's True SB 744 extended the temporary suspension of Oregon's Essential Learning Skills prerequisite, meaning that until 2024 at the earliest, high school students do not have to pass standardized tests in several academic skill areas in order to obtain a high school diploma.
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[FONT=&]What's False SB 744 did not alter or remove the existing and continued requirement, in state law, that Oregonian high school students must obtain at least 24 credits, including in English, mathematics and science classes, in order to get a high school diploma — a less standardized but still substantial form of de facto proof that a given student possesses many of the same basic academic competencies in question.


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And yet these same schools are teaching that 2+2=4 is racist.

 

[Into the Night]

He's so stupid he doesn't understand how SCOTUS works.

Irrelevant. Trolling. TDS.

 

[Into the Night]

We started algebra in 8th grade middle school.

I thought algebra was the most basic math one could take in high school, there was no back tracking to baby math and arithmetic.

My recollection is that it was the trigonometry, advanced algebra and pre-calculus which were high school electives.

But maybe I just wasn't aware that there was a second track for grease monkeys who just wanted to take Auto shop class.

Auto repair requires the use of algebra. Aircraft and boat repair also require the use of trigonometry.
Building a house requires algebra and trigonometry.
Plumbing, welding, wiring, all require algebra.

 

[cancel2 2022]

Apparently you only read the headline. Deeper in the story, a whole three paragraphs, he explains why. He has something BETTER. I wish you weren't a dishonest, uneducated hack. Really I do.

DeSantis said they will be replacing it with progress monitoring which many school districts are doing.

“This is short individualized check-in assessments three times per year. This will take hours not days to be able to do these assessments. It has three different opportunities, fall, winter, and spring to be able to check in on growth. There’ll be 75 percent less time for testing, which will mean more time for learning. It also informs teachers in real-time during the school year, so they can better help students,” said DeSantis.

“I do agree and I concur with the Governor and the Commissioner that there are better ways of assessing students rather than relying on one single end-of-the-year assessment that is all inclusive. Obviously we are going to be very attentive to legislative processes that will bring to the state appropriate replacements for these assessments,” said Miami-Dade Schools Superintendent Alberto Carvalho.

The United Teachers of Dade issued a statement applauding the ending of the FSA.

McSlobber is what he is, arrogant, ignorant and obnoxious are his default settings.

 

[leaningright]

So, being unable to make change at a cash register is not a 'life skill' to you?

Algebra isn’t required to be able to “make change at a cash register.”

Not every high school student should have to take algebra.

 

[Grumpy]

We started algebra in 8th grade middle school.

Mine was called Junior High School ... and yes, we started algebra then also

But maybe I just wasn't aware that there was a second track for grease monkeys who just wanted to take Auto shop class.

We had three types ... college prep, business, professional ... AND ... the irony of the whole thing is that many of the 'professional' track folks made more money than the rest ... auto shop and welding paid off handsomly.

 

[Grumpy]

Contextomy fallacy. Semantics fallacy. Graduating students from high school without being able to do algebra, or even arithmetic is a problem. Students do not know history, science, mathematics, or even how to form an English sentence properly, yet they graduated high school.

You forgot those who can't even read their diploma which is nothing more than an "I was there once in a while" certificate.

 

[Grumpy]

Now 20 states require Algebra to graduate from high school.

Have you ever looked at the actual state requirement for successful algebra completion ??? Algebraic addition, subtraction and multiplication ... algebraic division requires knowlege of fractions ... and we all know how well the gameboy crowd loves that.

 

[Into the Night]

Algebra isn’t required to be able to “make change at a cash register.”

Not every high school student should have to take algebra.

Too tough for you to handle, eh?