Florida Governor orders schools to drop standards for academic performance

Into the Night said:
I agree with the DeSantis actions concerning changing the way schools performance is monitored. It is not about politics. It is about the way school performance is monitored.
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It is a political decision made by a politician to alter the way charter schools are compared to public schools. DeSantis supports charter schools, even though they have on average failed badly. This is an attempt to cover that up.

If you think it is not about politics, ask the moderator to move the thread to a non-political section.
 
Into the Night said:
A lot do. That's why colleges have remedial training programs. Community college is college, dumbass. They have remedial training programs too for the same reason. Employers have to retrain high school graduates enough basic arithmetic to run a till. It's sad. These poor saps can't even make change.
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Algebra would not be considered a college level course. Community college often educates people up to a college level, because they do not have a reasonable high school education. They will even get you a GED. This does not make GED's a college level education.
 
Walt said:
It is a political decision made by a politician to alter the way charter schools are compared to public schools. DeSantis supports charter schools, even though they have on average failed badly. This is an attempt to cover that up.

If you think it is not about politics, ask the moderator to move the thread to a non-political section.
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The thread is not about charter schools either. Apparently have have no ability to follow a conversation. Demonstrated once again.
 
Walt said:
I doubt many do. Maybe community college, but community college is willing to educate you up to a college level first.
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A community college is a COLLEGE, dumbass. Universities also have to have remedial courses because kids graduate schools while they are still illiterate.
 
Walt said:
Algebra would not be considered a college level course.
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My point. Kids are not graduating high school with any knowledge of algebra, or even basic arithmetic in many cases.
Walt said:
Community college often educates people up to a college level,
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A community college is a COLLEGE, dumbass.
Walt said:
because they do not have a reasonable high school education.
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My point. Thank you for agreeing with me.
 
Into the Night said:
A community college is a COLLEGE, dumbass. Universities also have to have remedial courses because kids graduate schools while they are still illiterate.
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You are not going to get college credits for taking a course on Algebra. No one cares where you took the course.
 
Into the Night said:
Apparently you don't remember what I said about REMEDIAL courses, necessary because the high schools failed.
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There is no such thing as "remedial courses" in college. I think you are thinking of high school.

There are catching up courses, that are not taught for college credit. The idea is to get the students to a place where they can start taking real college courses.
 
Walt said:
It is a political decision made by a politician to alter the way charter schools are compared to public schools. DeSantis supports charter schools, even though they have on average failed badly. This is an attempt to cover that up.

If you think it is not about politics, ask the moderator to move the thread to a non-political section.
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It's not political decision, though...
There's no attempt to cover up anything...lol...not sure why you don't want what is best for the schools...the teachers...the students...
But I'm willing to listen if you're willing to share why that might be...
You don't eve n live in Florida...do you? And I know you're not in education...
 
Walt said:
There is no such thing as "remedial courses" in college. I think you are thinking of high school.

There are catching up courses, that are not taught for college credit. The idea is to get the students to a place where they can start taking real college courses.
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There most certainly are remedial/refresher/developmental courses offered in college...they do not count towards a degree...but they do count....
 
The story to me is about how lawmakers never just do something, they do something and have to add spin and lies.
It's tiresome.

Just say what it is: "We have a big ass standardized test and we can't administer it, it's a headache so we are dropping it and punting
it back for local people to do whatever they fucking want about the fact that Johnny can't read and Julie can't add."
 
TOP said:
lol...not sure why you don't want what is best for the schools...the teachers...the students...
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For every year a student spends in the for-profit charter schools, they lose a month of education compared to public school students. That is because they hire substandard teachers for cheaper.
 
TOP said:
There most certainly are remedial/refresher/developmental courses offered in college...they do not count towards a degree...but they do count....
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Colleges would never call a course remedial, or even have the concept of a remedial course. Remedial is for students who have trouble learning, rather than people who are behind and need to catch up.
 
Walt said:
For every year a student spends in the for-profit charter schools, they lose a month of education compared to public school students. That is because they hire substandard teachers for cheaper.
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I'm sure you believe that....
And I'm sure you have links...especially for the "substandard teachers for cheaper"....;)
 
Walt said:
Colleges would never call a course remedial, or even have the concept of a remedial course. Remedial is for students who have trouble learning, rather than people who are behind and need to catch up.
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So colleges don't offer instruction to students with learning challenges? One of the reasons they might be behind...and need to catch up?
 
Walt said:
Colleges would never call a course remedial, or even have the concept of a remedial course. Remedial is for students who have trouble learning, rather than people who are behind and need to catch up.
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Trump should have taken a course on remedial civics, administration of govt and constitutional powers of the executive.
 
cawacko said:
So you have Governor DeSantis and the Florida's Teacher Union in agreement that ending the standardized testing at the end of the year and replacing it with progress monitoring three times a year is a good thing.

Should people be worried that those two are on the same page or is it a good thing?
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It is a good thing.
 
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