Greta Thunberg

[Into the Night]

You mean not as immediate? True, But as any rational, logical person can read, no less dire.

NOT TRUE. There are rational, logical people that are also illiterate. It doesn't make them any less rational or logical!

 

[Into the Night]

Should they all just drop out like Greta did? Just enjoy the time they have left?
( PS....It's Never hard to talk kids out of skipping school or adults from not going to jobs where they won't be missed...thus, the "growing multitude"

It's just getting a degree in being a Have Not. Their loss.

 

[moon]

define 'climate change'.

It's a change of climate. It will even affect repetitious trolls such as yourself.

 

[Into the Night]

Just love this, it really sums up the situation beautifully.

GLOSSARY OF TERMS – CLIMATE CRISIS/CLIMATE EMERGENCY

Climate Activists – Persons who are trying, and succeeding in some places, to force their misguided beliefs on everyone else. Their limited successes here in the U.S. and elsewhere has led to even greater tantrums from them…thus the well-orchestrated Climate Strike and Extinction Rebellion protests.

Climate Feedback – Phenomenon that enhances global warming (positive feedback) or suppresses global warming (negative feedback), the sign of which is still unknown as it relates to the climate of the real world. It is assumed by climate modelers to be positive.

Climate Models – Very expensive fantasy computer games that are abused to make an international “anti-growth, anti-capitalist, anti-American” crusade appear to be based on science. (Quote source – Margaret Thatcher’s Statecraft, under the heading of HOT AIR AND GLOBAL WARMING)

Climate Scientists Whose Work Output Sustains the IPCC – Paid propagandists (a.k.a. eco-profiteers) and celebrity wannabes whose livelihoods depend on supporting the agendas of politicians and UN bureaucrats, not for researching the truths and realities behind global warming and climate change.

Developed Nations – Prosperous countries that created or joined the fossil-fuel-powered industrial revolution early and have been reaping the economic, technical, social, and health benefits of those innovations for decades, if not centuries.

Developing Nations – Countries in this category include those that failed to join the industrial revolution early, if at all, but now want to share the economic, technical, social, and health benefits of the Developed Nations (without having to expend their own time, moneys, and efforts or their own tears, sweat, and blood to achieve the present levels of prosperity of the Developed Nations) through the distribution of wealth (from developed to developing nations) via international agreements created by power-hungry unelected bureaucrats of the United Nations. Also included in this category are more recently industrialized nations that are looking for handouts from those countries that industrialized early.

Extinction Rebellion, Climate Strike, and Other Fossil-Fuel-Protest Groups – Overindulged, immature, ungrateful, naïve, and gullible children (and adults behaving like children) who have been brainwashed by decades of ever-scarier catastrophe propaganda about fossil fuels.

Green New Deal and Democratic President Candidate Plans to Magically Create Weather Stasis – Socialist manifestos based on contrived science and unrealistic economics.

Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) – Political (not science) entity founded by the United Nations in the 1980s to make an international “anti-growth, anti-capitalist, anti-American” movement seem, via smoke and mirrors, to have a foundation in science. (Quote source – Margaret Thatcher’s Statecraft, under the heading of HOT AIR AND GLOBAL WARMING)

IPCC Assessment Reports – Propaganda prepared for and by UN bureaucrats that repeat the same misinforming and disinforming crystal-ball-like prognostications of the future in each edition but with ever-increasingly desperate-sounding certainties.

Mainstream Media – Propaganda purveyors.

Paris Agreement – International Treaty intended to control the prosperity, mobility, lifestyle choices, and well-being of the citizens of developed nations, while transferring wealth from developed to developing nations.

Reduce Greenhouse Gas Emissions, They Say – Actually intended to undermine the economies of fossil fuel producing and exporting countries.

United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC ) – A series of failed and failing international agreements that hide behind the very-transparent veils of catastrophic-human-induced global warming/climate change with the overall intent of advancing “worldwide, supra-national socialism”. (Quote source – Margaret Thatcher’s Statecraft, under the heading of HOT AIR AND GLOBAL WARMING)

There is a much more comprehensive dictionary for these terms. See the Manual on terminology of the Church of Global Warming. Well written too.

 

[Cinnabar]

You should take that up with PoliTalker, the one who posted a list of Greta's mental health issues. That was the first I had heard of them.

The young ladies issues have nothing to to do with her belief and passion in raising awareness of a very urgent and worldwide crisis. In fact, there is something very wrong emotionally, morally, socially and cognitively with folks that are in denial of the problem.

 

[Controlled Opposition]

The young ladies issues have nothing to to do with her belief and passion in raising awareness of a very urgent and worldwide crisis. In fact, there is something very wrong emotionally, morally, socially and cognitively with folks that are in denial of the problem.

Maybe, but there is also something wrong with exploiting mentally disabled youngsters.

That photo of the student protesters is interesting on a couple of different levels. Indeed, "What the actual fuck . . . " why are those kids wasting time getting high school diplomas?

And if you believe that we have 10 to 12 years left, why are you wasting at least as much time on this forum as I do?

 

[anonymoose]

The kid is a global heroine.

I agree there's a lot of sick people in this world that would celebrate the brainwashing and exploitation of a vulnerable mentally handicapped girl causing her to be clinically depressed only for the purpose of furthering their political agenda.

 

[anonymoose]

The young ladies issues have nothing to to do with her belief and passion in raising awareness of a very urgent and worldwide crisis. In fact, there is something very wrong emotionally, morally, socially and cognitively with folks that are in denial of the problem.

I am not in denial of that child's problems. In fact I'm sympathetic to them. You celebrate them.

 

[moon]

I agree there's a lot of sick people in this world that would celebrate the brainwashing and exploitation of a vulnerable mentally handicapped girl causing her to be clinically depressed only for the purpose of furthering their political agenda.

Fortunately she's already beyond the influence of such people.

 

[anonymoose]

Fortunately she's already beyond the influence of such people.

I agree, it's probably too late to turn her around. In two yrs. she'll be 18. She'll be free to panhandle in S.F. or Seattle and live on the streets.

 

[deadcatbounce]

I agree, it's probably too late to turn her around. In two yrs. she'll be 18. She'll be free to panhandle in S.F. or Seattle and live on the streets.

Good call.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

You should take that up with PoliTalker, the one who posted a list of Greta's mental health issues. That was the first I had heard of them.

I don't think Poli is the one criticizing her, saying she's being used, that she should sit down and shut up and be in school and at a therapist's office.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
For your education: What is climate change? Evidence, Causes, Effects, Solutions https://climate.nasa.gov/

NASA only offers up a circular definition of the phrase 'climate change' on their website. Circular definitions do not work; they are meaningless, as they make reference to nothing outside of themselves. Any argument based upon a circular definition is thus rendered a void argument, in violation of logic. So, I ask again, define "climate change".


Useless definition, as it is based upon words which themselves are undefined. Define "climate change". Define "global warming". There is no "the climate", as Earth has many varying climates.

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
"Climate crisis" or "climate emergency" is a description of climate change and global warming used by a variety of scientists, governments and other organisations to describe how anthropogenic effects on the climate are proceeding so quickly that they believe the world is facing a global crisis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_crisis

Ignored on sight, as this is an Appeal To False Authority Fallacy. 'Scientific American' and 'Science Daily' are not science. You need to look at the theories of science themselves.

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
2. For your education: https://rgs-ibg.onlinelibrary.wiley....9.2007.232_3.x

See above.

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
3. A primary for your education: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/e...ing/pollution/

See above.

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
4. Population in relation to the above listed. Read carefully: https://www.biologicaldiversity.org/...ility/climate/

See above.

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
All YOU have done is display either a genuine or willful gross ignorance of the subject matter.

No, you are showing ignorance of the theories of science which stand in the way of your religious belief.

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
I hope you enlighten yourself so there can be a discussion based on facts.

I am quite aware of the logic, science, and math which stand in the way of the "global warming" hysteria.

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
The questions still stand waiting for a rational, logical response.

I've given you a rational response. I suggest becoming literate in logic, science, and mathematics.

As the reader can see, gfm175 is totally irrational.....he makes the absurd claim that the links I provide use themselves only to validate their statements. That is a LIE, as anyone who can read can tell you that's what REFERENCES at the bottom of a page, to validate via OTHER sources. GFM then stupidly repeats his folly by making a similar accusation for all other sources. He even admits he just didn't bother to read one reference because he doesn't like the source. This implies that gfm175 either has deplorable reading comprehension skills, did not READ the links at all, or did and lied about the contents.

I hope gfm175 is at least getting paid minimum wage for playing the proudly ignorant denier wonk. Having exposed his folly, I dismiss him to the IA bin rather than waste anymore time and space on him.

 

[Taichiliberal]

I can't help thinking you have a few issues of your own. Much as might want to characterise it otherwise it's not just a few but many. I posted a list of highly eminent scientists that are sceptics, including Nobel Prize winners before, here it is again.


Prof. Richard Lindzen
Prof. Judith Curry
Prof. Ivar Giaever
Dr. Jasper Kirkby
Prof. Stephen E. Kooning
Prof. Joseph D'Aleo
Prof. Nils-Axel Mörner
Prof. Robert E. Davis
Dr. Harrison Schmidt
Prof. Hendrik Tennekes
Prof. Peter Stilbs
Prof. Anastasios Tsonis
Prof. William Happer
Prof. Anthony Lupo
Prof. Murray Salby
Prof. Nir Shaviv
Prof. Fred Singer
Prof. Henrik Svensmark
Prof. Ian Plimer
Dr. Sallie Baliunas
Dr. Rory Spencer
Dr. John Christy
Dr. Nic Lewis
Dr. Willy Soon
Prof. Freeman Dyson

https://thebestschools.org/features/top-climate-change-scientists/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_climate_scientists

 

[Into the Night]

Howdy Cypress,



Nailed it.

Laid 'em out.

Shut 'em DOWN.

* You can't create energy out of nothing (1st law of thermodynamics).
* You can't trap heat (1st and 2nd law of thermodynamics).
* You can't trap light (Planck's law).
* You can't heat the warmer surface with a colder gas (2nd law of thermodynamics).
* You can't decrease entropy in any system (2nd law of thermodynamics).
* You can't reduce the radiance of Earth and increase its temperature (Stefan-Boltzmann law).

No gas or vapor is capable of warming the Earth using IR from the Earth's surface.

 

[Into the Night]

Hello anonymoose,
What kind of wisdom says assume no danger, make no preparations?

Pascal's Wager fallacy.

What are the odds that your home will be destroyed by fire?

Rather depends on what he's doing in his home, doesn't it?

But still you buy insurance.

Because an uncontrolled fire is a very real possibility.

Preparing for climate change is like buying insurance for our home on Earth.

Define 'climate change'. There is no possibility from the Earth being destroyed by a meaningless buzzword.

* You can't create energy out of nothing.
* You can't trap heat.
* You can't trap light.
* You can't heat a warmer surface using a colder gas.
* You can't reduce the radiance of Earth and increase its temperature.

There is no reason to buy insurance again theories of science being falsified. These are theories of science. You have not falsified them. You can't just ignore them.

False equivalence fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

You repeatedly emerge with a voyeuristic aside or an inane apology for comment. Are you lonesome without your sock ?

YALSA

 

[Into the Night]

As the reader can see, gfm175 is totally irrational.....he makes the absurd claim that the links I provide use themselves only to validate their statements.

No, he is claiming that you never defined 'climate change'. You cannot define 'climate change' as 'climate change'.

That is a LIE, as anyone who can read can tell you that's what REFERENCES at the bottom of a page, to validate via OTHER sources.

The other sources didn't even address the definition of 'climate change'. Define 'climate change'.

GFM then stupidly repeats his folly by making a similar accusation for all other sources.

Where?

He even admits he just didn't bother to read one reference because he doesn't like the source.

I also reject Wikipedia as a reference. You can't use it with either of us.

This implies that gfm175 either has deplorable reading comprehension skills, did not READ the links at all, or did and lied about the contents.

YALIF.

I hope gfm175 is at least getting paid minimum wage for playing the proudly ignorant denier wonk. Having exposed his folly, I dismiss him to the IA bin rather than waste anymore time and space on him.

YALIF. Argument of the stick fallacy. Argument of the stone fallacy. Bulverism fallacy.

 

[Ralph]

I listened to this poor girl on NPR this. a.m.
Sad what the climate hoaxers have done in brainwashing these kids.
They should be taken away from their parents for child abuse.
And the U.N. gives her a podium and actually listens to this crap pretending to take her seriously for the advancement of Agenda 21.



Kids in S.F. think we have only 12 yrs. left before the End of Days Apocalypse.

So glad I raised well adjusted kids.

The most revealing fact? Her funding and its source. An organization paid by George Soros and Bill Gates. Just how stupid do they think the world population to be......presenting a 16 year child that's mostly likely been Epsteined/Me To'ed judging from all that anger and hostile attitude... as an expert on Climatology and Meteorology. Yeah....her vast experience must have began while she was still shitting her panties.

 

[TOP]

You should take that up with PoliTalker, the one who posted a list of Greta's mental health issues. That was the first I had heard of them.

She has quite a history...people should be concerned for her...I know her parents and teachers are-they've said so-even she has expressed concern.......along with Many others...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...g-climate-change-activist-Greta-Thunberg.html