Greta Thunberg

There are no Palestinians “ as “Palestine” does not exist.

Iran, the state sponsor of terrorism, does exist but not much longer.

Their economy is in the tank.
 
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Hundreds of thousands join Canada climate strikes

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Hundreds of thousands of people have joined climate strike marches across Canada, with almost 100 events planned in cities and towns.

Protesters are taking part in the global climate strike movement, which has seen people around the world take to the streets.

The movement wants world leaders to adopt ambitious climate change policy.

Initial school strikes were inspired by Swedish campaigner Greta Thunberg's "Fridays for Future" movement.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49856860
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Haw, haw........................................haw.
 
anatta said:
your conversation is above my pay grade, but doest "forcing" here mean solar heat build up? OR am i missing it?
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From The Manual:

Forcing: noun
According to the Global Warming mythology, a forcing is a miracle performed by Climate in discharging Her duties as the central planner and administrator of all weather systems, ecosystems and local climates across the globe, of all interactions thereof and in caring for the well being of all life on earth. This falls under Climate Science.
 
Havana Moon said:
It means, in essence, that outgoing long wave radiation, which would otherwise escape back into Space, is absorbed by atmospheric CO2 and converted into vibrational bending and stretching of the bonds in the molecules, this results in thermal energy. The main absorption band for CO2 is centred around 15μm, which is tapped out, or saturated, at the centre so the heating occurs at the edges, or wings, of the graph. The CO2 absorption spectrum shows it absorbs LWIR at three different narrow wave lengths, sometimes called finger frequencies. Two of those wave lengths happen at temperatures too hot to exist in the atmosphere, the remaining wave length is 15um.
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Absorption of surface IR by CO2 does not warm the Earth. It is also not a force. There is no forcing. The surface is COOLED by emitting IR light. It's just another way for the surface to cool by heating the atmosphere.
Havana Moon said:
Please note that radiative forcing is a logarithmic function, meaning that quadrupling concentration only results in a doubling in forcing. This means that the forcing effect attenuates with higher concentrations. Think of it as a greenhouse where the windows are painted black, the first coat shuts out most of the light whilst subsequent coats have less and less of an effect.
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There is no 'forcing'. CO2 is not a force.
Havana Moon said:
This is well known amongst climate scientists
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Climate 'scientists' deny science and mathematics. Science does not use consensus. Science is never 'settled'. There are no proofs in science. It is an open functional system. No theory is ever proven. No theory is possible to exist at all based on a void argument fallacy. Define 'climate change'.
Havana Moon said:
and is not in the least controversial.
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Then why is there so much controversy?
Havana Moon said:
In Thermodynamics, Temperature is the average kinetic energy of the particles in a body (solid or gas). A fact that our fine feathered friends seem incapable of understanding.
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Lie. I accept that definition of temperature. Always have. Irrelevance fallacy.
Havana Moon said:
The temperature increase for an initial doubling from 280ppm, the start of the Industrial Revolution, to 560ppm is around 1.2C.
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It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. It is not possible to measure the global concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere. You don't have enough instrumentation.
Math error: Failure to provide raw unbiased dataset. Failure to select by randN. Failure to normalize by paired randR. Failure to declare variance. Failure to calculate margin of error.
Argument from randU fallacy.
Havana Moon said:
That is pretty much accepted by all climate scientists,
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Like I said. Climate 'scientists' deny math, just as you do.
Havana Moon said:
the real argument is centred around feedbacks.
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From The Manual:

Feedback: noun
A feedback is a specific type of forcing employed by Climate that overcomes the physical limitations of the 1st and 2nd Laws of Thermodynamics by creating additional usable energy. Feedbacks come in various subcategories, e.g. thermal, climate, hydrostatic, radiative, etc.. This falls under Settled Science.
Havana Moon said:
They will also say that increased temperatures results in more clouds and that is not modelled by the current crop of CMIP5 climate models.
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By 'models', you mean computer programs. Models don't predict anything.

Computer programs only spit out the numbers they are told to spit out. A model in a computer program is the 'noun' the program works on 'the verb'. Models themselves are randU. They simply come out of someones head. The programs that run on them also simply come out of someone's head. Neither are capable of prediction. They are random numbers of type randU.

A randU is the 'predictable' random number. They all come out of someones head. When that someone tries to use them as data or as a predicate, that is a fallacy, known as an argument from randU fallacy.

Models are not a proof. They are worth nothing more than Holy Entrails.
 
TOP said:
As you can see, there's no sincere concern on the part of the "Democrats/liberals/" here (there, or anywhere) when it comes to seeing Greta as a young girl in crisis ...it's just another chance to display personal hatred...for individuals and against those who are thinking and speaking realistically when it comes to these "efforts"...... (Some groups just love a reason to skip school or work, ruffle some feathers and tote vulgar signs....you can see from the numbers;)
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/24/us/greta-thunberg-whats-next-trnd/index.html
Someone's very generous;)
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The pile of steaming Toxic bullshit,just gets bigger,and stinks more!
 
Getin the ring said:
yea, same thing , you friggin nut**bag

scare your kids, who cares.. As if our childhood isn't too short already.

There's nothing more pathetic than watching a liberal try and raise a child
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:rolleyes: Yet for months we've seen nothing but fear-mongering from trump where he tries to persuade both children and adults that brown people are invading the country and coming to get them.
 
anonymoose said:
This is obviously a very depressed child. Her "dreams and childhood have been stolen" because of climate change.
My kids are happy and normally functioning and could give a rat's ass about "climate change".
They played soccer, were on swim teams. One is 30, has a $25,000 truck paid for in full, a 401k, and a mortgage. The other has two happy kids, a good job as a health insurance claims something or other and a husband who is a mechanical engineer. Gives a fuck about "climate change", whatever that is.
This is what the climate hoaxers want - suicidal kids who believe they have no hope. This is why their kids end up on the streets of west coast cities, homeless and drug addicted, skeptical about their own sexuality and gender confused throughout life. They truly believe this is good.
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Your kids didn't turn out well just because they're climate deniers. I'd say there is absolutely no correlation here.
 
Superfreak said:
Anyone who is ACTUALLY knowledgeable would know that the AGW cult has issued such 'deadlines' many times over the past 30 years+. Then they keep moving the 'deadlines' back another 10 or 12 years into the future.

But you ignore that, because you are a part of the cult.
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It sounds like the moveable deadlines cons use when they're claiming SS is going to collapse.

But I digress. Carry on.
 
christiefan915 said:
Your kids didn't turn out well just because they're climate deniers. I'd say there is absolutely no correlation here.
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A lot of millennials don’t pay attention to current events. Moose is in denial, all he has to do is return to the Bush and hear the Native Alaskan stories of how climate is changing their way of life.
 
anonymoose said:
But it will happen if we don't stop [farting cows, air travel, etc.] within 12 yrs. if we fail to do this in 12 yrs. can we finally focus on other excuses to promote global socialism?


It is my opinion as a health care provider. I'm no psychologist but I've taken classes to recognize signs of depression and child abuse, so it is my professional opinion based on her saying ""You have stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words". Not directly. The child abusers used "climate change" as a tool to brainwash her leading to her depression. From what? Geez, how many times do I have to say the issue is this child's obvious depression? I know. I've never seen anybody convince anybody of changing their mind on these forums.
Logic tells me this child is depressed. she believes her dreams and childhood have been stolen from her because of somebody's (whose?) empty words.
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Just one point. People like Greta on the autism spectrum (Asperger's) often have behaviour and affect that could make them seem depressed when they really aren't.
 
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