History is for suckers.

[Into the Night]

What field of endeavor are you claiming to be in where Ivy League graduates are begging to be hired by you, but you can hire high school dropouts instead? The only one I can think of off the top of my head is acting, and you are not JJ Abrams.

False dichotomy fallacy. RQAA.

 

[Into the Night]

It's only because you can't think for yourself and just believe whatever rightwing pundits order you to believe, that you hold the impression all liberal arts majors are working at Taco Bell.

Inversion fallacy. It is YOU cutting and pasting all the time. It is YOU that cannot think for himself.

My mother was a sociology major with a career in social work and teaching.
Two of my college friends were history majors. One teaches at the US Naval Academy, one is a technical writer for a consulting firm.
My aunt majored in Slavic studies and had a career at CBC's Russian service.

Making shit up isn't helping you.

You obviously never went to college, and what you think you know about college just comes from listening to Tucker Carlson and Fox Noise.

Pivot fallacy. Tucker Carlson is not part of the conversation. Neither is FOX.

 

[Into the Night]

Even righties disagree with you.
Look around and you will see which ones.


What a guy.
He starts a multi-quote post.
Even though he knows I don't do them.

So, obviously, he is trying to avoid a discussion by doing what he KNOWS I will not partake in.



Bye now.

You trying to speak for everyone now, eh? No...you do not get to do that.

 

[Into the Night]

Wiki is a good place to start, but you have to go elsewhere to really get anything more than the basic details Wiki provides.

Wikipedia is NOT a good place to start. It is too often incomplete, wrong, or just plain biased.
I do not accept it as a reference for anything.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Wikipedia is NOT a good place to start. It is too often incomplete, wrong, or just plain biased.
I do not accept it as a reference for anything.

That depends on the subject you are looking up. What you state is mostly true primarily and only for recent or current events and personalities. On most other subjects it is reasonably accurate, if often less than complete. That makes it a good place to start.

 

[BidenPresident]

That depends on the subject you are looking up. What you state is mostly true primarily and only for recent or current events and personalities. On most other subjects it is reasonably accurate, if often less than complete. That makes it a good place to start.

Wiki is for those who know absolutely nothing about a topic. I usually ignore people who cite wiki.

 

[Into the Night]

That depends on the subject you are looking up. What you state is mostly true primarily and only for recent or current events and personalities. On most other subjects it is reasonably accurate, if often less than complete. That makes it a good place to start.

Nope. Most any subject is affected.

 

[Into the Night]

Wiki is for those who know absolutely nothing about a topic. I usually ignore people who cite wiki.

Yet you cite Wiki.

 

[Cypress]

Inversion fallacy. It is YOU cutting and pasting all the time. It is YOU that cannot think for himself.

Making shit up isn't helping you.

Pivot fallacy. Tucker Carlson is not part of the conversation. Neither is FOX.

You never went to college so you really have no idea what kind of jobs humanities majors get.

What you think you know is just what you have heard from rightwing media personalities.


You need to explain to me what exactly the motivation is for lying on an obscure message board to someone I don't know and will never meet.

There are plenty of humanities majors among my family and friends. At this point, I have reason to think you don't actually have any college graduates in your family.

 

[Into the Night]

You never went to college

Omniscience fallacy.

so you really have no idea what kind of jobs humanities majors get.

College is not humanities jobs.

What you think you know is just what you have heard from rightwing media personalities.

Pivot fallacy. Bulverism fallacy.

You need to explain to me what exactly the motivation is for lying on an obscure message board to someone I don't know and will never meet.

Conclusion fallacy.

There are plenty of humanities majors among my family and friends. At this point, I have reason to think you don't actually have any college graduates in your family.

Fabrication. Omniscience fallacy.

No argument presented. Fixation.

 

[Cypress]

Omniscience fallacy.

College is not humanities jobs.

Pivot fallacy. Bulverism fallacy.

Conclusion fallacy.

Fabrication. Omniscience fallacy.

No argument presented. Fixation.

I accept your tacit confession that you don't actually have any first hand experience with college, and none of your family are college graduates.

 

[evince]

Wiki is for those who know absolutely nothing about a topic. I usually ignore people who cite wiki.

Silly


It’s a great reference

 

[Into the Night]

I accept your tacit confession that you don't actually have any first hand experience with college, and none of your family are college graduates.

Assumption of victory fallacy. Omniscience fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

Silly


It’s a great reference

No. You cannot use it as a reference with me.

 

[evince]

No. You cannot use it as a reference with me.

Polly is a cracker


Who WANTS anything to do with you

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

Somebody else did a thread in this section mentioning history. So I thought I would too. By telling you that "history" is for suckers. There is a truism out there that says, "History is written by the victors." As in the victors of some war. But there is another truism about war. It says, "In war, truth is the first casualty." No doubt for the winning side, it remains a casualty. Also, there were a couple notable people who had truthful things to say about history. One was Napoleon. He said, "History is a set of lies agreed upon." Another was Tolstoy. He said, "History would be a wonderful thing. If it were only true."

History is for suckers?

YOU SUCK! SO YOU ARE A SUCKER!

NEXT!

 

[BidenPresident]

History is for suckers?

YOU SUCK! SO YOU ARE A SUCKER!

NEXT!

Reletor sounds like a Nazi who used to post here about how the Jewish Genocide never happened. He is also a racist. Pure scumbag.

 

[Walt]

Bigotry. More people than Jews wrote about events surrounding them.

Jews are people, so your sentence is wrong there.

The fact is the Old Testament was written by Jews about Jews, and it is the main source of iron age history in the area. The other writing systems in the area were forgotten.

 

[Walt]

Haven't found a competent twit yet from an Ivy school (and they do apply!).

What field of endeavor are you claiming to be in where Ivy League graduates are begging to be hired by you, but you can hire high school dropouts instead? The only one I can think of off the top of my head is acting, and you are not JJ Abrams.

False dichotomy fallacy. RQAA.

So you are unable to name the field you claim to be hiring in, where Ivy League graduates are applying to you? I am beginning to think you are a liar. Correction, I am not beginning.

 

[reletor]

I agree that history is usually written by the victors, but not always. This is a thought I have been playing around with in my mind. I can go into almost any hotel in America, and find a book about iron age Jewish history. It may not be completely accurate, but the Bible is a rather detailed description of iron age Jewish history. Jews were not victorious.

Jews cared about history, wrote about history, and survived. For the most part, the victors did not do all three. Modern Egyptians cannot read hieroglyphics, modern Iraqis cannot read cuneiform, and neither care particularly much about pre-Muslim religious practices. Even their own knowledge about their ancestors is filtered through Jewish historians.

Then there is the pseudo-history of the Lost Cause. For about 100 years, most of the writing about the Civil War was by the losers who wanted to reframe the war as some sort of heroic lost cause, and not as a defense of the vile institution of slavery. The Daughters of the Confederacy invested heavily into teaching children about the Lost Cause. Had the civil rights movement not come along, that would still be established history. But, certainly not the history as written by the actual victors.

Reletor, you make good, interesting points, and I am sorry if I have muddied the issue. Welcome to the forum, and I hope you keep posting.

Obviously, the jews were victorious. Not militarily. Though with the help of the best weapon they ever came up with against the goyium-gentiles, Jesus, they were victorious. In so far as getting their story out there. And from what I have seen, for many christians, the best way to prove the power of their imaginary god is to support the jewish people. Next, I don't know much about writings about the Civil War. I know there were books written such as Tom Sawyer and Uncle Tom's Cabin. Were they pro-South? I don't know. Slavery did need to end though. And from what I have seen, it was the South that started the war. But maybe I am wrong in that. I know that new states were being formed that weren't slave states. Sooner or later, slavery would have been voted out of existence by the majority non-slave states. The slave states didn't want that to happen.