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How do you determine who is illegal?
- Thread starter Jarod
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IT could be done for a train... but many illegals do not travel by plane and likely avoid trains and would avoid them if citizenship were required.
We demand an I9 be filed to be employed, but they usually fake those and or work as Independent Contractors.
Diogenes
Oops! You ran into some problems.
Brad knows a great deal concerning illegal immigrants and their driving habits...
Daylight63
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Yes I know a way that will work about 100% effectively and could be implemented pretty quickly: start throwing Americans who hire illegals in jail. It's already illegal in a lot of places, just enforced the law.
Dry up the money and the illegals won't come here anymore!
It's SO SIMPLE it really is amazing.
I wish I could bet you a huge amount of money in regards to Trump releasing the Epstein list. SURELY you aren't so stupid as to think he'll EVER do that, right?
He lied about his taxes for basically all his tenure as President. He said he was gonna release them just as soon as.... . Same will be with the Epstein Flight manifests. You'll NEVER SEE THEM so long as Trump is in office.
I propose we let the adults try a solution. if it does not work, you can act all smug
but I think we both know when it is nearly impossible to learn, work, travel, bank, get healthcare, and so on - all the incentive to be here goes away and they will stop being here
Diogenes
Oops! You ran into some problems.
Is that how your Hispanic housekeeper was able to stay until you (now) ex-wife caught you banging her, Brad?
Illegals are not being asked to testify, just provide proof of citizenship.
You do know that your support of the invasion of America has been rejected by the voters.
Can we count on you to provide shelter, food, health care and education for five or ten of these illegals?
Will Saturday be too soon?
^yawn
Daylight63
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You say that because YOU AREN'T INTERESTED IN FIXING THE MIGRANT CRISIS.
You like it the way it is! If you don't support REAL ACTION to stop the problem you WANT THE PROBLEM.
I'm sorry but no one here except you wants "open borders", Comrade.
I am saying solutions are easy
if it turns out the new boss is as much a shit head as the old boss - I will still sit here and say the solutions are easy
so fuck off cockroach63
Daylight63
Verified User
My solution is the perfect solution. The fact you don't like it just means you are part of the problem. You probably VALUE having illegals work here. You certainly seem to be fighting the only TRULY USEFUL solution.
volsrock1
Verified User
The 5th Amendment protects the right of someone on trial in a criminal trial to refuse to testify against oneself, but that is not the same thing.
Someone can refuse to identify oneself or provide ID in this situation, but that is determined under state law, and not the Constitution. 23 U.S. states have “stop-and-identify laws,” which allow the police to stop someone suspected of a crime and demand that they identify themselves. In those states, suspects who refuse to identify themselves are subject to arrest and prosecution.
Violation of Fifth Amendment Right Against Self-Incrimination
The Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides that a person cannot be compelled to provide self-incriminating testimony. In many instances, providing identification to a police officer would not be self-incriminating.
Failure to Identify to a Police Officer: Laws & Penalties
Law enforcement officers routinely ask people for their names and other identifying information as part of a criminal investigation or stop-and-identify laws.
www.criminaldefenselawyer.com
it is only a part of the solution, so far from perfect.
some employers will simply be careful and only hire obvious illegals that present fake paperwork.
volsrock1
Verified User
Lets pick one of those states
How to Get Your Virginia Driver’s License: A Complete Guide
2. Provide Documentation
You will need to provide proof of the following when applying:- Proof of Identity
- (2) Proof of Virginia residency
- Proof of legal presence
- Proof of Social Security number
How to Get Your Virginia Driver's License | Zutobi Drivers Ed
In-depth guide on getting your 2024 Virginia (VA) driver’s license for teens and adults (+requirements). Learn how to get your Virginia driver’s license!
zutobi.com
- Proof of legal presence...what part of that do u not understand?
One hundred percent accurate.The 5th Amendment protects the right of someone on trial in a criminal trial to refuse to testify against oneself, but that is not the same thing.
Someone can refuse to identify oneself or provide ID in this situation, but that is determined under state law, and not the Constitution. 23 U.S. states have “stop-and-identify laws,” which allow the police to stop someone suspected of a crime and demand that they identify themselves. In those states, suspects who refuse to identify themselves are subject to arrest and prosecution.
Violation of Fifth Amendment Right Against Self-Incrimination
The Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides that a person cannot be compelled to provide self-incriminating testimony. In many instances, providing identification to a police officer would not be self-incriminating.
Failure to Identify to a Police Officer: Laws & Penalties
Law enforcement officers routinely ask people for their names and other identifying information as part of a criminal investigation or stop-and-identify laws.
The receptionist knows about as much about the law...as a receptionist.
AProudLefty
Black Kitty Ain't Happy
This has the potential to be abused.
volsrock1
Verified User
Lets pick another one
Requirements for Getting Your Maryland Driver’s License
To get a license, you must verify your identity, age, and that you live in Maryland. Documents that will sufficiently prove your identity and age include a copy of your birth certificate (original or certified), a valid U.S. passport, and a valid permanent resident card. You must also provide your Social Security Number and two documents that prove you live in Maryland, like a utility bill or bank statement.
https://www.darcarsusedcarcenter.co...ts-for-getting-your-maryland-drivers-license/
So u dumb fuck...u have to show your PAPERS to get a DL
Shall we do another one of the states u listed?
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