Lot's of lovely language, huh? Some intended to kiss French ass so they would give us a hand.
Slavery, douchebag. Your claim was a lie when the ink was still wet.
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Lot's of lovely language, huh? Some intended to kiss French ass so they would give us a hand.
Slavery, douchebag. Your claim was a lie when the ink was still wet.
The vast majority of the Declaration is this, moron:
"The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.
We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor."
SmarterthanYou
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I have never stated that the declaration is law, so YES, you are confusing me with other posters.
YOU are the illiterate moron. the constitution does NOT provide provisions to make any right inalienable because all rights are considered inalienable. the constitution does nothing more than prescribe a certain set of powers to the federal government. The B of R details a specific list of inalienable rights that the framers considered so hugely basic and fundamental, that they told the federal government 'these you may not touch in any way, shape, or form. It is halfwit morons and statist minded idiots, like yourself and CFM, who are so deathly afraid of the freedom and liberty that others abuse, that you seek to remove the concept of inalienable rights and turn them in to privileges that the government can include or remove them at will so you feel safer.
SmarterthanYou
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why do you think driving isn't a right now?
Fundamental? You mean like not housing soldiers in your home or a $20 trigger for the right to a jury trial? Damn fundamental!
You keep referring to the existence of these inalienable rights, yet have yet to identify a single one, proof that you have nothing. The concept, moron, is a myth and, as Bentham put it, "nonsense upon stilts".
Flail on.
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SmarterthanYou
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for starters
Bentham is an idiot, and so are you for listening to him. since you seem to have an inability to actually read, let me be clear on this one more time....
all of our rights are fundamental
SO fucking fundamental! So much do that the creator sent them from on high! $20 included. lol
You said inalienable, dbag. Still no mention of a single inalienable right.
Fucking moron.
SmarterthanYou
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again, you're confusing posters. try to stay with me, moron.
are you unfamiliar with the rights in the B of R? or why they are there?
yes, you are.
YOU used "fundamental" and "inalienable", idiot. No confusion with anyone. Do you suffer from Alzheimer's? Why is that $20 trigger as inalienable and fundamental as it was 230 years ago? You must think $20 has the same value. lol
Where, in the B of R do they claim they are inalienable? There were 19 to begin with. Seven didn't pass muster and they ended up with 12. Those last two weren't ratified by the states. I guess they weren't inalienable. Specific rights came into existence in this country, idiot, because someone, from their knowledge of human experiences, thought they were a good idea, representatives voted on them and sent them to the states for their approval. Nothing fucking magic about it, moron. No nature's laws. Nothing from the creator. Just another legislative process. The entire B of R was a legislative COMPROMISE in the first place.
Change your forum name, cretin. It's a contradiction.
Robo
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Nobody, but nobody here has professed that the Declaration of Independence is LAW
I have correctly pointed out to the forum idiot that the Declaration is the REASON for the rule of law we call the Constitution. That reason being "All Men Are Created Equal and Endowed By Their Creator With Certain Inalienable Rights, Among Those Rights Are Life, Liberty and The Pursuit Of Happiness."
I have correctly pointed out to the forum idiot that the Declaration is the REASON for the rule of law we call the Constitution. That reason being "All Men Are Created Equal and Endowed By Their Creator With Certain Inalienable Rights, Among Those Rights Are Life, Liberty and The Pursuit Of Happiness."
Look, idiot, I'll try to condense this for you. It was you, dimwit, that first mentioned inalienable rights. I merely pointed out that those words do not appear in either the Constution nor the B of R. Then you go on these rants of quoting the Declaration ad nauseum. Just as you have done now. And I have also correctly pointed out that the life, liberty and pursuit of happiness thing was a lie when the ink was wet.
Cut and paste all you want, cretin. It doesn't change a damn thing. There are no inalienable rights.Rights are an invention of man, not a discovery. Not sent from a creator or sourced from nature. They are a result of a legislative process. Nothing more, nothing less.
Is that the best you have, bitch?
Jump in anytime, cocksucker, and offer a rebuttal of my points. Or do you just want to lick the tiny little testicles of these other morons?
SmarterthanYou
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nice deflection, but show me where I ever said 'creator'.
READ THE 9TH AMENDMENT
No deflection, moron. "Fundamental" and "inalienable" were your words. I see you like to cherry pick that Declaration. Love the 'inalienable', gonna ignore that 'creator'. If rights are inalienable, they must transcend human intervention, musn't they?
The 9th says something about inalienable rights?
Robo
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I know, but I love it when leftist morons make assholes out of themselves. the only reason I converse with the asshole in this thread is because TV sucks and he's better entertainment even though he blows.
Robo
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"The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." (Amendment 9 United States Constitution)
"Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech or of the press, or of the rights of the people peaceable to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. " (Amendment 1, United States Constitution)
These are "inalienable rights" of the people. We know they're inalienable because THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE the founding reason and principles of the nation tell us they are "INALIENABLE."
The fundamental inalienable rights of humanity are life, liberty, property, the pursuit of happiness and any action an individual human shall pursue as long as no other rights of another human/humans are violated by such actions.
Robo
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Yes! any prohibitive action by others including government are a violation of rights and a worthy and righteous cause for restitution or insurrection.
For honest, informed patriotic people they do absolutely. That leaves you out commie!
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You haven't conversed, idiot. Just cut and paste with no thought behind the issue.
'Murica!
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More cut and paste from the moron.
If life, Liberty and the pursuit were so inalienable, why was it that those very rights were denied to slaves by many of the very signers of the Declaration? I'll tell you why (again), idiot. Because they ARE alienable and I just proved it.
Flail, fuckwad, flail.