Just like Yaya, you have no concept of circular reasoning, even though you are the greatest abuser on this forum.
You use scripture to prove the truth of the scripture. Classic circularity, moron. You're a blind ignoramus, pal, and pathetically laughable as well.
Satan is my father? Priceless!
Match wits with your god? Hilarious!
Disprove a virgin birth, man walking on water, raising people from the dead, coming back to life after being dead 3 days? You were homeschooled and Mommy skipped critical reasoning skills and science, didn't she?
You are really something, Ralphie. One of the most willfully ignorant somethings I've ever encountered.
Hey, tell me about that big boat with all the animals on it. I've always enjoyed that "truth". LOL
Indeed....you are a son of this world, the secular and you cannot hear the word of God, Jesus makes it clear,
"If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me.
Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. YOU ARE OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. But because I tell the truth....you do not believe Me. Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell you the truth, why do you not believe Me?
HE WHO IS OF GOD HEARS GOD'S WORD. THEREFORE YOU DO NOT HEAR, BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT OF GOD." -- John 8:42-47
Next lets consider your baseless charge that accepting the Bible as truth is circular in nature. Why do you make such a charge? You claim the Bible is not allowed to testify in its own defense....yet you use it to make secular charges against it by quoting from it? Really? You can quote from it in an attempt to prosecute its content, but the content therein is not allowed to defend against your accusations because you claim its circular logic? Really? Consider the facts.
First the Bible is not ONE BOOK with one secular author, its many books drafted by at least 30 different inspired authors....form many walks of life, from Kings to sheep herders, physicians to slaves, etc., all agreeing in perfect harmony over a 3500 year period of which the Books were drafted....from different nations on earth.
The flaw to your logic of charging CIRCULAR REASONING OR LOGIC? When you make the charge you are confessing to a great truth....the UNITY of the entire Bible is real as you charge it with being one source when its many different sources.
Example if Matthew cannot be used to verify anything about Luke, or the opposite Luke used to verify something presented as truth by Matthew, then the assumption is made, whether you consider it or not, THEY ARE UNIFIED IN A WAY THAT NEGATES ONE FROM TESTIFYING FOR THE OTHER. Its nice of you to admit to such unification of the entire Bible.
Truth: Neither Matthew or Luke sit down and worked in collusion or union in order to deceive anyone. They are separate works from separate authors covering the same witnessed testimony.
Another truth: The Gospels ...ie.., Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were written in the 1st century and they were never complied into a single unit until some time 3 or 4 centuries later...that complied work is called the Cannon.
Your logic would be like putting or placing several different news articles into one binding, from the Times, the Post, Tribune...etc., and saying You can't allow these stories to test for truth as they are in one binder. It simply does not float.
SECOND: No one is using the Bible's claim of being the inspired word of God to claim that the Bible indeed is the inspired word of God. A believer is told to TEST ALL THINGS.
One starts by looking at the testable portions of the scriptures, those parts that can be tested and validated by outside sources....unlike the claims of the supernatural which cannot be tested via physical science or history because its SUPER to nature...i.e. superior, the natural has no method to test the supernatural.
When one tests the scriptures just like one would test a news article from the New York Times or any other work by man.....and the work bears out to be documented by other sources, then truth is derived via the application of prima facie evidence.
Luke the physician even explains the method of testing things for truth before sitting them to print, "Inasmuch as many have undertaken to compile an account of the things accomplished among us (the apostles), just as they have been handed down to us from the beginning were EYEWITNESSES and servants of the WORD (Jesus), it seemed fitting for me as well, HAVING INVESTIGATED EVERYTHING CAREFULLY FROM THE BEGINNING TO WRITE IT DOWN FOR YOU IN CONSECUTIVE ORDER (unlike some of the other gospels that were random records not in the order of event)........"
Thus when you say, one portion of the Bible cannot be used to confirm other portions of the Bible you are attempting to silence the very fabric of due process.....you are saying, you can't use the testimony of one witness to confirm the testimony of another.....you demand to prosecute your accusations void of allowing any type of self defense testimony...because you claim the witnesses are engaged in circular reasoning when they verify one another's account.
Laughable. Just like all things secular YOU want your cake after you have just consumed it....with only one way to digest it again by consuming the defecated product thereof.
