Lefties and the Prius

[MAGA MAN]

It doesn't matter how quick these cars are, since the reason why the prius wastes so much energy is that it lands in the hands of lefty owners, where it is then used to create a steady wake of fuel wasting traffic congestion. The smooth flow of traffic gets interrupted, ad all the other cars end up using more fuel when a lefty prius driver is on the road. The lefty behind the wheel is where the problem is. Everything lefties touch breaks, dies, or turns to shit.

I got stuck behind one on Saturday climbing the twisty 2 mile climb to my mountain cabin, twenty five fucking miles per hour the whole way...

 

[MAGA MAN]

This demonstrates true Lefty virtue signalling, along with demonization of all who disagree completely:

Nope, voting Dem is the first and best thing you can do to minimize your carbon footprint. Then recycling and driving my 50 mpg Prius help too.
And live in a state with clean gas and that is on the forefront of clean energy, solar and environmentally friendly causes and actions. You should know.

Not sure how to solve the airline issue. I know that's the worst thing we do.

You are a boring poster with the cliché right wing tropes: virtue signal, woke...

Do you get a bonus for 10 per day or something? Being cynical is your go to antidote for not having virtue or being awake, and it's tiresome.

Tell me, do you people have ANY causes you are proud of? Name one. Just one you can "virtue signal" about.

Pathetic, isn't it. Why do you believe in all the bad things and oppose all things that try to be good. At least we are trying.

You fucks don't care. Yuck.

 

[gfm7175]

I can drive 400 miles on a tankful of gasoline, fill up in 5 minutes and drive another 400. Can you do that with your Tesla?

I have a Volt. So I can.

Lie. Volts can't do that.

There are charging stations that recharge quickly and they are getting better all the time.

A battery can only be recharged so fast...

I can drive cross country.

Not nearly as efficiently as one can with a gas powered vehicle. It takes minutes to fill up a gas tank... It takes many hours to recharge a battery.

 

[Gonzomin]

I could walk across the country too...

You should. The point, of course, is that the Volt eliminated charging insecurity. My son's Bolt has a 200-mile range that is worrisome on a long trip. Give it some thought.

 

[Gonzomin]

Lie. Volts can't do that.


A battery can only be recharged so fast...


Not nearly as efficiently as one can with a gas powered vehicle. It takes minutes to fill up a gas tank... It takes many hours to recharge a battery.

Level 3 chargers are able to charge in half an hour. They are getting better all the time. You are stuck in today, not the future that is clearly coming.

 

[gfm7175]

Level 3 chargers are able to charge in half an hour. They are getting better all the time. You are stuck in today, not the future that is clearly coming.

Even 30 minutes (ignoring that most people do not make use of level 3 chargers) is A LOT slower than a few minutes, and the few minutes gets you a 350ish mile range, compared to a MUCH less range that the 30 minutes gets you. The 30 minute time is also not even for a full charge. This isn't getting into the effects that cold weather has on batteries.

 

[MAGA MAN]

You should. The point, of course, is that the Volt eliminated charging insecurity. My son's Bolt has a 200-mile range that is worrisome on a long trip. Give it some thought.

Electric cars are OK for urban dwellers. I drive over 30k miles/ year and I regularly commute the 100 miles to my mountain cabin on weekends. Some weeks I am in Raleigh one day then Asheville the next. A 200 mile range, after some age on the battery, is more like 100, and that's on a flat road without using the heat or AC. My Porsche Macan has a 19.8 gallon tank are typically gets 26 mpg, so it has a range of over 500 miles, and of course it takes only a few minutes to refuel instead of hours.

 

[katzgar]

The Prius appears to be primarily owned and operated by lefties. They seem oblivious to what is going on around them, what the appropriate speed and following distance might be, or which lanes are meant for slower traffic. Whenever I finally get through a slow spot of traffic, it seems to be a lefty in a prius who caused it.

Yes, I can see that they are lefties. Hands at 10 and two, seat all the way up, no music. Unsexy people who can only stare at the road ahead.

You are mentally defective

 

[Gonzomin]

Lie. Volts can't do that.


A battery can only be recharged so fast...


Not nearly as efficiently as one can with a gas powered vehicle. It takes minutes to fill up a gas tank... It takes many hours to recharge a battery.

The Volt has 50 miles of electric and 350 in the gas tank. You are lying again.
The technology on charging stations is accelerating far beyond your limited ability to understand. Lets correct some of your stubborn ignorance, https://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-efficiency/vehicles/electric-car-charging-goes-super-fast.htm
And in the future they will be faster.
If I were you ,I would call you a liar, but I see ignorance and the stubbornness to stay that way.

 

[MAGA MAN]

I call them "coal burning cars", because that's how many of them are charged.

 

[Gonzomin]

I call them "coal burning cars", because that's how many of them are charged.

At this time much of electricity is being supplied by old fashioned corporations. However, a couple of solar panels on your roof will make it free. If you are getting supplied by wind or solar companies, you are coal-free. That is the future. I guess Reds will stay in the past.

 

[MAGA MAN]

At this time much of electricity is being supplied by old fashioned corporations. However, a couple of solar panels on your roof will make it free. If you are getting supplied by wind or solar companies, you are coal-free. That is the future. I guess Reds will stay in the past.

You must be nocturnal then, driving at night and charging up during the day. How virtuous of you, avoiding coal use that way.

 

[gfm7175]

The Volt has 50 miles of electric and 350 in the gas tank. You are lying again.
The technology on charging stations is accelerating far beyond your limited ability to understand. Lets correct some of your stubborn ignorance, https://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-efficiency/vehicles/electric-car-charging-goes-super-fast.htm
And in the future they will be faster.
If I were you ,I would call you a liar, but I see ignorance and the stubbornness to stay that way.

Okay, let's go with 50 miles of electric and 350 miles of gasoline... How is that exactly an electric vehicle? That seems to be using as much gasoline as any other vehicle does...

If we're talking electric, then we're talking 50 miles, charge for many hours, 50 miles, charge for many hours, etc... You need the gasoline to have any range...

 

[gfm7175]

I call them "coal burning cars", because that's how many of them are charged.

That's what I call them too... Coal powered...

 

[MAGA MAN]

Okay, let's go with 50 miles of electric and 350 miles of gasoline... How is that exactly an electric vehicle? That seems to be using as much gasoline as any other vehicle does...

If we're talking electric, then we're talking 50 miles, charge for many hours, 50 miles, charge for many hours, etc... You need the gasoline to have any range...

50 miles is probably when the batteries are new, he route is flat, and heat/AC not used. The reality is that a 20 mile range is what you can count on.

 

[Gonzomin]

Okay, let's go with 50 miles of electric and 350 miles of gasoline... How is that exactly an electric vehicle? That seems to be using as much gasoline as any other vehicle does...

If we're talking electric, then we're talking 50 miles, charge for many hours, 50 miles, charge for many hours, etc... You need the gasoline to have any range...

I never use gas . As a matter of fact, the car is programmed to use the ICE on rare occasions just to keep it in good shape. People rarely drive over 50 between charges. However, if I go 70, the first 50 is electric. Charging is done at night when we sleep and electric demand is low and cheaper.
Yes the Volt uses gas to run the electric motor after 50 miles. But how often do you go more than 50 miles a day. But if you need to take a long drive, the ICE motor clicks in seamlessly after 50 miles. So it works on long trips too.
My sons Bolt gets 200 miles per charge. Electric cars are getting longer and longer ranges and there are more and more fast-charging stations being built every day.
The future is electric.

 

[Gonzomin]

50 miles is probably when the batteries are new, he route is flat, and heat/AC not used. The reality is that a 20 mile range is what you can count on.

Not correct. It is easy to get in summer but loses 10 percent in winter. However, every trip has the first 40 or so not using gas. You rarely go more than 50 a day. GM did extensive research before they built it. The Volt has the highest satisfaction ratings of any American car. So GM quit making it.

 

[MAGA MAN]

Not correct. It is easy to get in summer but loses 10 percent in winter. However, every trip has the first 40 or so not using gas. You rarely go more than 50 a day. GM did extensive research before they built it. The Volt has the highest satisfaction ratings of any American car. So GM quit making it.

The battery technology is no different than my cell phone, and after two years my two-day battery lasts me a day. You are correct that GM does a lot of stupid things. That's why I was against bailing them out the last time.

 

[gfm7175]

I never use gas.

Lie. You later talk about how you use gas. See below...

As a matter of fact, the car is programmed to use the ICE on rare occasions just to keep it in good shape.

Paradox.

[1] I never use gas.
[2] I use gas on rare occasion.

People rarely drive over 50 between charges.

Some do, others don't.

However, if I go 70, the first 50 is electric.

Okay. But you're still using gas then.

Charging is done at night when we sleep and electric demand is low and cheaper.

Okay.

Yes the Volt uses gas to run the electric motor after 50 miles.

Precisely.

But how often do you go more than 50 miles a day.

Most weekends. Sometimes during week days as well. That might not even last me to work and back, as my work and back trip is typically a bit over 40 miles.

But if you need to take a long drive, the ICE motor clicks in seamlessly after 50 miles. So it works on long trips too.

Yup, but then its a gasoline vehicle like the others.

My sons Bolt gets 200 miles per charge.

Okay.

Electric cars are getting longer and longer ranges and there are more and more fast-charging stations being built every day.

Not long enough for my needs. Not fast enough for my needs.

The future is electric.

By force, not by free market.

 

[Evmetro]

Electric is more efficient than ICE, no doubt about it. The charging infrastructure still sucks, no denying this. There is also no denying that ICE vehicles hold the speed and power records.

There is no doubt that it is more efficient for something in motion to stay in a steady motion instead of speeding up and slowing down. When lefties get the wheel of a Prius, they cause a wake of traffic behind them of cars that are slowing down and speeding up. A lefty behind the wheel of a Prius, regardless of if it is fully electric or hybrid, will cause massive waste of fossil fuels in the wake of traffic it creates. Lefties are the problem.