Let's Go, Get Woke, America!

Hello cawacko,

cawacko said:
1) racism/bigotry will never vanish because it’s part of human nature

2) kind of hard to not talk about yourself assuming one is not a bot, it’s the whole progressive premise of “lived experiences”

3) we use pronouns to identify ourselves and to show support for those who don’t identify with their birth gender (as I understand it)

4) I’m asking if we should identify ourselves as white privilege in our profiles, like we do pronouns, as a way of letting the world know we are a beneficiary of it - this is a discussion board that’s why I’m asking the question and since the topic is wokeness doing so would definitely be woke
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Thank you for your view. If individuals were to identify their own white privilege as a part of their online identity, that would be like giving their race as white. There is no requirement here to divulge one's race or gender. Individuals may choose not to give any such indications. That would then, logically, remain a personal choice as to whether or not to give such information. I do not believe it should be expected nor assumed.

Obviously, individuals who are not white do not benefit from white privilege (unless they appear to be Caucasian, and even then sometimes they still get shut out.)

Look at the case of Meghan Markle. I had no idea she wasn't Caucasion, but apparently that information circulated. She was discriminated against by the royal family. She appeared white to me, (and I'm sure others,) but she wasn't white enough to get white privilege in every situation.

If racism will never vanish because it is part of human nature, why on Earth do so many white humans have such a hard time admitting that they have benefited from not be discriminated against? Or admit that they have acted in a different way towards black people because of this implicit racism?

Or,

Maybe it just seems like racism can never be conquered because we are still so undeveloped as a life form that we can't even imagine such a thing at this point, but then hundreds or thousands of years in the future it actually comes to pass.

Now that the world is so much smaller and there is so much mixing between races, perhaps pure race individuals will become fewer and fewer and eventually everyone will be some sort of mix. Most people are already...
 
We Speak for Ourselves: How Woke Culture Prohibits Progress – February 4, 2020
by D. Watkins
 
I got woke ar 8AM this morning.
Not 5 AM.
Not 11 AM.

A perfectly non-descript 8AM.

Nifty Niblick--"woke" in current fashion.

Let's hope there are pills for it.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
That's exactly right, except, of course,
the burbs would have non-court ordered bussing anyway because they weren't urban neighborhoods with neighborhood schools to which the kids could walk.
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Tension between areas and/or groups is nothing new of course but so often we think of it in terms of political polarization and red vs blue. Yet Boston votes heavily Democratic. So this Southie vs. Harvard/MIT's etc. tension isn't about politics rather just class?
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello cawacko,



Thank you for your view. If individuals were to identify their own white privilege as a part of their online identity, that would be like giving their race as white. There is no requirement here to divulge one's race or gender. Individuals may choose not to give any such indications. That would then, logically, remain a personal choice as to whether or not to give such information. I do not believe it should be expected nor assumed.

Obviously, individuals who are not white do not benefit from white privilege (unless they appear to be Caucasian, and even then sometimes they still get shut out.)

Look at the case of Meghan Markle. I had no idea she wasn't Caucasion, but apparently that information circulated. She was discriminated against by the royal family. She appeared white to me, (and I'm sure others,) but she wasn't white enough to get white privilege in every situation.

If racism will never vanish because it is part of human nature, why on Earth do so many white humans have such a hard time admitting that they have benefited from not be discriminated against? Or admit that they have acted in a different way towards black people because of this implicit racism?

Or,

Maybe it just seems like racism can never be conquered because we are still so undeveloped as a life form that we can't even imagine such a thing at this point, but then hundreds or thousands of years in the future it actually comes to pass.

Now that the world is so much smaller and there is so much mixing between races, perhaps pure race individuals will become fewer and fewer and eventually everyone will be some sort of mix. Most people are already...
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Human beings are flawed. There’s never going to be kumbaya on earth. And racism does not exist solely as white against black. There is racism all across the globe and non white people can be racist/bigoted towards others.
 
Hello cawacko,

cawacko said:
Human beings are flawed. There’s never going to be kumbaya on earth. And racism does not exist solely as white against black. There is racism all across the globe and non white people can be racist/bigoted towards others.
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Well, we don't know what will happen in the future. Humans have the capacity for improvement. We've gone from savage to civilized. There's no reason to assume we won't continue improving. Racial tension is a tough nut to crack; but we'll never know what we can do until we try. Identifying the problem is paramount. Being aware of what to avoid helps us to avoid it. We can think differently about race. We can question where there is hatred, why is it there? How do we replace hatred with love? That's all we need, is a little neighborly love. Everybody wants to love the place they live, the community they live in. Everybody wants to be respected and treated fairly. It's not too much to ask. All lives matter.

That's woke, and woke is where we need to be.
 
Mankind learns


That’s a proven fact


We need to learn that racism only exists because someone begins USING IT to pit people against each other for gain


It’s a simple fact to learn


When someone starts talking racist crap they need to be scorned by society for it


It’s evil and needs to be crushed in its infancy


Just like mankind learned rape was bad


Just like people learned killing your neighbors children was bad



We can learn that being racist is bad
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello cawacko,



Well, we don't know what will happen in the future. Humans have the capacity for improvement. We've gone from savage to civilized. There's no reason to assume we won't continue improving. Racial tension is a tough nut to crack; but we'll never know what we can do until we try. Identifying the problem is paramount. Being aware of what to avoid helps us to avoid it. We can think differently about race. We can question where there is hatred, why is it there? How do we replace hatred with love? That's all we need, is a little neighborly love. Everybody wants to love the place they live, the community they live in. Everybody wants to be respected and treated fairly. It's not too much to ask. All lives matter.

That's woke, and woke is where we need to be.
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We have gangs in this country that have only been around 50 years and we can do little about them. You think we can stop groups who have hated each other around the world for centuries? Good luck with that.
 
PoliTalker said:
I don't get what's wrong with being woke.

Merriam-Webster:

" woke adjective
chiefly US slang
: aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)"

Sounds like a good thing!

Surely, being well informed is preferable to being poorly informed...

Any dispute on that? Seems to be pretty straightforward. Knowledge is power. So what's the deal?

It is logical that a society comprised mostly of individuals who are aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues, especially issues of racial and social justice, would be a great society to be a part of. That would result in low crime and minimized hatred, a society where people respected one another and got along fine, happy and content, pleased to be a part of something bigger than them, something really great.

Most people already think America is a great country.

Wanna make America greater?

A woke America would be a greater America.

Let's Go, Get Woke, America!
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You want some good reading Poli? Read John McWhorter's new book 'Woke Racism: How a New Religion Has Betrayed Black America'

Simply declaring yourself woke does not mean you are free of racism.
 
PoliTalker said:
I don't get what's wrong with being woke.

Merriam-Webster:

" woke adjective
chiefly US slang
: aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)"

Sounds like a good thing!

Surely, being well informed is preferable to being poorly informed...

Any dispute on that? Seems to be pretty straightforward. Knowledge is power. So what's the deal?

It is logical that a society comprised mostly of individuals who are aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues, especially issues of racial and social justice, would be a great society to be a part of. That would result in low crime and minimized hatred, a society where people respected one another and got along fine, happy and content, pleased to be a part of something bigger than them, something really great.

Most people already think America is a great country.

Wanna make America greater?

A woke America would be a greater America.

Let's Go, Get Woke, America!
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It is a good thing, but every thing Trumppers are against. Let em stay ignorant.
 
Jarod said:
It is a good thing, but every thing Trumppers are against. Let em stay ignorant.
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LOL. So I suppose you fancy yourself a woke individual. Why then did you vote for Joe Biden? This is a man who played a major role in writing the '86 crime bill and the '94 crime bill. There is little less woke than those two bills. Is ok to not be woke as long as you're a Democrat, is that how it works?
 
cawacko said:
LOL. So I suppose you fancy yourself a woke individual. Why then did you vote for Joe Biden? This is a man who played a major role in writing the '86 crime bill and the '94 crime bill. There is little less woke than those two bills. Is ok to not be woke as long as you're a Democrat, is that how it works?
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Dear fucking idiot


Black peoples backed that crime bill


Fuck you very much
 
I was DEAD against it



It was crazy

Nearly everyone I spoke to about it supported it



EVERYONE thought that the law was only violent crime that was Involved in the three strikes


It was all crime


I fought and I fought


But I lost that debate
 
Back then police would NOT EVEN RESPOND to calls in black hoods

The black leaders wanted police to do their jobs


If the three strikes hand been violent crimes only in the three strikes it might have worked
 
Hello cawacko,

cawacko said:
We have gangs in this country that have only been around 50 years and we can do little about them. You think we can stop groups who have hated each other around the world for centuries? Good luck with that.
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Gang hatred is only a small part of hatred. Of course it needs to be alleviated.

Racial hatred is our number one hate problem, our biggest problem.

Education, compassion and love are the answer. There's no reason we can't create a country where everyone feels wanted and respected. Just because we can't do it today or tomorrow doesn't mean it can't happen. And even though we may not perfect our society after trying, we must keep trying. We have to have something to look forward to. We must always strive to improve. Remember: A defeatist attitude never created any achievements.

Instead of saying we will never conquer racial hatred, and not trying to, we must wonder if we can, and try our best. Because we will never know what we can do if we don't try.

And the first step is getting as many people aware of the problem as possible.

And that leads us right back to:

Let's Go! Get Woke, America!

This should be the Blue slogan in 2022. Vote Blue in 22.
 
They sent me to temple.



How many Psychiatrists does it take
to change a light bulb?
Only one, but the bulb has got to
really WANT to change.

I like to stand in the corner of my psychiatrist's
waiting room and blow on anyone who walks by...
Most people hate it, but I'm a fan...

I told my psychiatrist. Ever since I signed up for
twitter I feel like people are following me.
 
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