Mental Illness is not to blame for gun violence

[SmarterthanYou]

Of course gun rights...you just need to be mentally fit in order to use them.

Don't you want only mentally fit people to own guns?

it would be nice, but not feasible. I would prefer that people be able to defend themselves from those who are mentally unstable.

 

[LV426]

1. you're not going to provide it to me because GA doesn't have power over FEDERAL FIREARMS LICENSES

I will provide it directly from the NRA, I'm just asking you what I get in return for doing so?

 

[LV426]

2. I have forgotten more about gun laws than you will probably ever know, having been an open carry advocate for the last 14 years.

You probably should go back and re-learn.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

So if I'm a doctor and I hear you say the same things you're posting on JPP, I'm leaning toward you being paranoid...and that paranoia is a symptom of a mental illness. Which one? Don't know, but there's plenty.

Like I said, it would be the doctor making that determination, not me.

the doctor. a human who may have ulterior motives for denying rights to people they don't like. no thanks. my rights are not theirs, or yours, to decide upon

 

[SmarterthanYou]

BUT YOU DON'T FUCKING KNOW THAT.

and YOU don't know that it didn't. see how that works out?

 

[LV426]

3. CCWs/CHLs/whatever you want to call them are mostly prior restraint restrictions on constitutional rights. no conflation with them here. I think they're government abuse and overreach and shouldn't exist.

Right...but what I was saying was I don't want to provide you with the NRA's assessment of the gun laws in Georgia only to have you shift the goalposts to CCW, which is a higher bar for gun ownership.

 

[LV426]

have you not looked at my history of posts here?????? and that's 4 things, not 3

I have. How do you think I came to this conclusion?

 

[LV426]

no

Well, we don't need your buy in.

You're welcome to come along for the ride, but just know that right now you're not convincing anyone that you could pass a mental health exam, or that you won't end up turning your gun on others or yourself later.

 

[LV426]

you were convinced you knew how the military was supposed to work also, and look how badly you fucked that up

You haven't been in the military FOR DECADES.

So shut your old, senile, fat mouth.

 

[LV426]

HUMANS are subject to variable influences that could/would detract or deny rights to people based upon the nature of the human. No thanks. my rights are not up for discussion.

So if HUMANS are the problem, why do you want to give HUMANS guns?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

I will provide it directly from the NRA, I'm just asking you what I get in return for doing so?

NRA stands for Negotiate Rights Away. I'm not a member or a fan. I KNOW federal law. you apparently do not.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/922

18 U.S.C. § 922(t)(1)
(1) Beginning on the date that is 30 days after the Attorney General notifies licensees under section 103(d) of the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act that the national instant criminal background check system is established, a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer shall not transfer a firearm to any other person who is not licensed under this chapter, unless—
(A) before the completion of the transfer, the licensee contacts the national instant criminal background check system established under section 103 of that Act;
(B)
(i) the system provides the licensee with a unique identification number; or
(ii) 3 business days (meaning a day on which State offices are open) have elapsed since the licensee contacted the system, and the system has not notified the licensee that the receipt of a firearm by such other person would violate subsection (g) or of this section; and

 

[LV426]

those founders were pretty crazy, weren't they?

You mean when they talked about a "well regulated Militia"?

How are you a well-regulated militia?

I'll tell you who needs a mental evaluation, is those who have seen what government has done over the past 30 years and not think it's been overreach.

Like what?

Like what example?

Because you and your "very fine people" were the ones who wanted the PATRIOT Act, remember?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

I have. How do you think I came to this conclusion?

I don't think you have. I probably have more anti cop posts because of excessive force, brutality, corruption, and plain criminality than any two people combine.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Well, we don't need your buy in.

You're welcome to come along for the ride, but just know that right now you're not convincing anyone that you could pass a mental health exam, or that you won't end up turning your gun on others or yourself later.

and since we're talking about MY rights, I don't care what you think.....or do. I'm keeping mine. you can try to come and take them.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

You haven't been in the military FOR DECADES.

So shut your old, senile, fat mouth.

ROFL.........you think that the relationship between the federal government and the military flip flopped over the last 30 years????

 

[NiftyNiblick]

So if HUMANS are the problem, why do you want to give HUMANS guns?

The Bill of Rights (1st ten constitutional amendments) were ratified December 15, 1791.

Even if the 2nd Amendment was an ill-advised idea, and I'm making no argument either way,
that gave us guns probably forever.
What do you imagine can be done about it in a nation as starkly polarized as ours?

 

[LV426]

NRA stands for Negotiate Rights Away. I'm not a member or a fan. I KNOW federal law. you apparently do not.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/922
18 U.S.C. § 922(t)(1)
(1) Beginning on the date that is 30 days after the Attorney General notifies licensees under section 103(d) of the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act that the national instant criminal background check system is established, a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer shall not transfer a firearm to any other person who is not licensed under this chapter, unless—
(A) before the completion of the transfer, the licensee contacts the national instant criminal background check system established under section 103 of that Act;
(B)
(i) the system provides the licensee with a unique identification number; or
(ii) 3 business days (meaning a day on which State offices are open) have elapsed since the licensee contacted the system, and the system has not notified the licensee that the receipt of a firearm by such other person would violate subsection (g) or of this section; and

WOW.

So you don't really get how to read Legal contracts or language, do you?

Because what you posted here says the background check is instantaneous...it's literally in Section 1.

So what you posted here PROVES that I can walk into a gun store in GA and then walk out 10 minutes later with a gun.

The 3 day period is only IF the system doesn't provide the licensee with a unique identification number...which it would in every single case unless the buyer doesn't pass the background check, or the seller doesn't contact the system.

Otherwise, what scenario would have to occur in order for Section 1.B.ii to take effect?

 

[ExpressLane]

Wait. So the Muslim that shot up the Bolder Supermarket wasn't crazy he was just a Trump hating Muslim extremists. Didn't Trump try to ban people like him from entering the country and liberals for it tooth and nail. Trump was right again.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

You mean when they talked about a "well regulated Militia"?

How are you a well-regulated militia?

I'm still a expert marksmen, I still know tactics, and I know how to operate in a squad. according to how the founders used 'well regulated' in the 2nd Amendment, I'm it.

Like what?

Like what example?

Because you and your "very fine people" were the ones who wanted the PATRIOT Act, remember?

the 60s oppression of inner city blacks, for one. ruby ridge. waco. clintons war on private militias. bush's attempts at 'free speech zones'. The Patriot Act (which I hated from the get go) you should really learn to differentiate that there is more than just left and right, the NDAA..........how many more would you like?

 

[LV426]

and since we're talking about MY rights, I don't care what you think.....or do. I'm keeping mine. you can try to come and take them.

Well, what I think you might do directly impacts me.

So if I believe that you're going to turn your gun against me or others, that definitely impacts me.

You haven't proven you are of sound mind to even own a gun.