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Watermark said:
It's really sad how a peaceful, reasonable religion like Judaism could be mutated into the horrible militaristic abominations of Islam and Christianity. The sensationalistic often triumphs over the rational, though.

I mean, really. The entire Christian and Muslim concept of Satan and the war between heaven and hell is entirely made up.
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Peaceful religion of Judaism? Which Bible were you taught from?

As well as the Book of Enoch, included in the Jewish Bible, that teaches of hell in the concepts used by the dude who painted the 9 levels of hell.... The war wasn't made up by Christians and Muslims.
 
Yeah , when the Jews too back the promised land after 40 yrs of being lost in the wilderness. They slew everyone who did not flee before them. Man, woman and child....
Peaceful they are not, and never were.
 
Damocles said:
Peaceful religion of Judaism? Which Bible were you taught from?

As well as the Book of Enoch, included in the Jewish Bible, that teaches of hell in the concepts used by the dude who painted the 9 levels of hell.... The war wasn't made up by Christians and Muslims.
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I was just trying to piss of AHZ.
 
I was reading up on that. In one case, in 1 Chronicles chapter 21, Satan influences David, while pretending to work on God's behalf, to take a census in Israel, God gets mad and gives him a choice of punishments, a 3 year famine, 3 months of running before their enemies, or a plague. David chooses a plague and 70K of his people die.

In 2 Solomon chapter 24 the exact same event is described, in it God orders the census, when it is taken gets angry for some inexplicable reason and he sends a plague, no Satan in that story, nor choices....

Later Satan is described to be one of the court in Heaven as he and God argue and then bet over Job's life.

Again in another story Satan is again shown to be an advisor in the court of heaven, he objects to the choice of Joshua as High Priest.
 
So one guy sins and 70K of people not involved die. Yep that is justice.
It does sound like the god of George Bush though....
 
AssHatZombie said:
ANd you're ignoring it's innate racism. "God's chosen people" is a racist notion in my book. Please explain how you see that phrase.
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Deuteronomy 14:2, "For you are a holy people to YHWH your God, and God has chosen you to be his treasured people from all the nations that are on the face of the earth."

"For all the earth is mine: and you shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and a holy nation" Exodus 19:5, 6

"The Lord did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because you were more in number than any people; for you were the fewest of all people; but because the Lord loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your ancestors." Deuteronomy 7:7, 8.

The whole idea of Jews as God's Chosen People comes from the old testament. If you are a Christian and you believe that the bible is the unerring word of god then you MUST believe that the Jewish people are his chosen people.
 
Socrtease said:
Deuteronomy 14:2, "For you are a holy people to YHWH your God, and God has chosen you to be his treasured people from all the nations that are on the face of the earth."

"For all the earth is mine: and you shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and a holy nation" Exodus 19:5, 6

"The Lord did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because you were more in number than any people; for you were the fewest of all people; but because the Lord loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your ancestors." Deuteronomy 7:7, 8.

The whole idea of Jews as God's Chosen People comes from the old testament. If you are a Christian and you believe that the bible is the unerring word of god then you MUST believe that the Jewish people are his chosen people.
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yeah written by Joos. do you think they could have controlled their people if they told them they were sleeze bags ?
Carrot and stick, carrot and stick....
Same as the reward of heaven and eternal life in the new testament.
 
Of Course there are some people that believe that Cain was a product of the serpents seduction of Eve and all jews are all descended from Cain which makes them....wait for it....children of Satan!
 
uscitizen said:
yeah written by Joos. do you think they could have controlled their people if they told them they were sleeze bags ?
Carrot and stick, carrot and stick....
Same as the reward of heaven and eternal life in the new testament.
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The WHOLE of the Old Testament is written by Jews. Like I said, IF you are a Christian you MUST believe the Old Testament and if you do then you MUST believe the Jews are God's chosen people.
 
Socrtease said:
Deuteronomy 14:2, "For you are a holy people to YHWH your God, and God has chosen you to be his treasured people from all the nations that are on the face of the earth."

"For all the earth is mine: and you shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and a holy nation" Exodus 19:5, 6

"The Lord did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because you were more in number than any people; for you were the fewest of all people; but because the Lord loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your ancestors." Deuteronomy 7:7, 8.

The whole idea of Jews as God's Chosen People comes from the old testament. If you are a Christian and you believe that the bible is the unerring word of god then you MUST believe that the Jewish people are his chosen people.
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Except that particular Covenant was overcome by the New Covenant, if you are a Christian you would believe that they were God's chosen people, now all are.
 
Socrtease said:
Deuteronomy 14:2, "For you are a holy people to YHWH your God, and God has chosen you to be his treasured people from all the nations that are on the face of the earth."

"For all the earth is mine: and you shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and a holy nation" Exodus 19:5, 6

"The Lord did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because you were more in number than any people; for you were the fewest of all people; but because the Lord loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your ancestors." Deuteronomy 7:7, 8.

The whole idea of Jews as God's Chosen People comes from the old testament. If you are a Christian and you believe that the bible is the unerring word of god then you MUST believe that the Jewish people are his chosen people.
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I don;t believe the bible is the unerring word of god, though I like the new testament part, where jesus told them all to fuck off.
 
Socrtease said:
The WHOLE of the Old Testament is written by Jews. Like I said, IF you are a Christian you MUST believe the Old Testament and if you do then you MUST believe the Jews are God's chosen people.
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Oh I agree with That Soc. A very politically astute move by the joos to keep the old testament in the Christian Bible.
It insures that all Christians will support the Joos.
Or burn in hell :)

One Damn good reason to keep religion out of our govt.
 
uscitizen said:
Oh I agree with That Soc. A very politically astute move by the joos to keep the old testament in the Christian Bible.
It insures that all Christians will support the Joos.
Or burn in hell :)

One Damn good reason to keep religion out of our govt.
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Amen brother.
 
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