Path to national suicide

Do what at the border, exactly?

Increase the number of border patrol agents? Fine: I agree with that. The money's got to come from somewhere though. I'd pull it from DoD, but that's predictable.

Build some dumbass wall? Forget it. That's just throwing good money down the drain. May as well buy everyone a sailboat.

Nope. Huge insurmountable wall is the best long term investment. Manpower will be temporary, just around till the spotlight is off the issue. Realize your opinion on the practicality of the fence is meaningless, considering you really want no border enforcement.
 
Build the wall out of Piezo electric material so that the Mexicans beating on it will generate a few megawatts for us to use to lethally electrify it.
 
Cost is not the issue on a construction project. Borrowing the money to build it will make our economy look better.

Of course our ecomomy is kinda like cotton candy, lots of fluff, no real substance and lots of spin involved.
 
thanks usretratedcitizen, I guess that's why we have the largest overall economy by 30% becuase all the fluff we are selling.
lol what a dumbass:pke:
 
Yep fluff spinner. 60% + depends on what we consumers buy. And we buy more fluff than needed stuff.

You know I figured my cotton candy analogy would suck you right out of the woodwork.

Hit too close to home huh ?
 
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your a loser!!!
We have the highest grossing economy by 30%
the only fluff is between your uneducated ears
 
Consolidating The americas is just a step on the road to globalism, called Regionalism.

http://www.augustreview.com/issues/...america_and_europe_in_the_crucible_200604072/
Immediately after the close of the Cold War, the Trilateral Commission – a private policy group comprised of American, European, and Asian counterparts – released its study, Regionalism in a Converging World. [16] According to its Introduction,

“…regionalism need not be opposed to globalism. The world should not have to choose between one or the other. It needs to live with both. The challenge…is how to channel the forces of regionalism in directions compatible with and supportive of globalism.” [17] [italics in original]

It’s important to understand that sponsorship for regionalism as a step in the globalization process hasn’t just been confined to the Trilateral Commission and its members. Thankfully, the many builders of this regional-global order have left their fingerprints plastered throughout the twentieth century. More significantly, their motives are also discernable.

Back in 1942, The Brookings Institute released its report, Peace Plans and American Choices, highlighting a variety of hopeful post-war concepts for “world order.” Options were reviewed such as explicit US mastery over international affairs, the creation of a British-American Alliance, harmonizing world order through a “Union of Democracies” (which was being touted at the time by Clarence Streit [18] ), and the collaboration of a larger “United Nations” package. Regionalism was considered in detail, with the Western Hemisphere, Europe, and Asia comprising the main blocks.

Arthur Millspaugh, author of the Brookings report, was candid in his linking of regionalism to the “bigger picture,”

“Such regional arrangements may be considered either as steps or stages in the evolution of a universal world order, as substitutes for a universal order, or as something to be combined with a world-wide system.” [19]

but the main goal of globalism is dubious in value,

from the same source....
National interests give way to global loyalties, just as world citizenship is touted as preferable to the narrow views of nationalism; no individual, corporation, or country is immune to this revolution. Welcome to “globalization,” where everyone is either a pawn or a player.

As an end to itself, the concept of globalization seems to rest on one central pillar: the consolidation of power. No matter what stripe or ideology globalization comes packaged in, this singular component cannot be denied. And in a society where “power begets power,” a global system, by definition, has the capability to expand this characteristic to new levels.
 
your a loser!!!
We have the highest grossing economy by 30%
the only fluff is between your uneducated ears

Ahh but such a happy comfortable "loser " :)
I wish all were as big of a "losers" as I am ...

Going to split my investment property, should make closer to 1.25 mill now :)
A gas n go on one part and perhaps a Cracker Barrel on the other part, not sure on that yet....
I might negotiate for eatin rights at the Cracker Barrel...
 
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Hummm...

Having been probaly the only one on this board who actually worked the Southern Border...enforcing Immigration as well as drug laws...The fence is dumb,amnesty is dumb,exporting all illegals is dumb...whats the answer...cut off all social aid(welfare for illegals) enact a law that prohibits anchor babies...one parent must be a citizen or legal resident!,punish employers who import and hire illegals,cut off medicaid for illegals,cut off school aid...if this is done they will go home and not cost the electorate a dime...just remember the brosario program was instituted way back when...and it worked well...thats what everyone cites...part time legal entry for agriculture workers...not brain science!
 
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The same ones? No. Consider this, though.

What's going to happen if we somehow manage to stem the flood of illegal immigrant labor? I don't believe that it's possible to do, personally, but let's grant it for the sake of argument. Labor costs will rise, obviously, since employers will be forced to raise wages to attract U.S. citizens to these jobs. In addition, we'll have greatly increased costs of enforcement, both at the border and at millions of job sites all over the United States.

Now, what's going to happen if we simply force employers to pay a higher wage from the outset? Labor costs will rise, just as in the other scenario, and more American citizens will be attracted to these service industry jobs. It's possible that labor costs will rise even more this way but, on the other hand, the costs of enforcement would not rise so dramatically.

Either way, you get higher prices. Not so much higher as some of the doomsday prophets would have it, since labor costs are only a small percentage of the cost of food production, but clearly some higher prices. Yet my preferred way of doing it does not increase the bureaucratic overhead anywhere near so drastically.
The fine citizens of SF enacted a "Living wage" policy. Prices increased, and that was all fine and dandy, but should prices increase due to a restriction on illegals, that would be bad. GO figure.
 
The fine citizens of SF enacted a "Living wage" policy. Prices increased, and that was all fine and dandy, but should prices increase due to a restriction on illegals, that would be bad. GO figure.

a famous quote:
This is one of the most basic tactics of the anti-intellectual and reactionary: deliberate conflation of dissimilar problems in order to provoke violent emotional responses. Rabble rousing, in other words.
 
IHG, it would be no problem to bypass the constitution on the anchor baby issue. After all we have the war on terror and drugs going on which have shot hell out of the constitution anyway.

Anyone else watch the moyer special on big brother monitoring us last night ?
 
a famous quote:
This is one of the most basic tactics of the anti-intellectual and reactionary: deliberate conflation of dissimilar problems in order to provoke violent emotional responses. Rabble rousing, in other words.

No it illustrates the hypocrisy of turbo libs. They'll pay for something good for non-americans, but not for something good for the native workforce. It's actually quite relevant and illustrative.
 
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