Question for pro-choicers

Flash said:
Conservatives think the after 9 months in the womb it is time for the parents to take over the baby's care and not turn it over to the government.
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And what if the mother didn't want to BE a parent, but was forced to -- by the government?
 
StoneByStone said:
If she doesn't want to get preggers, then she should refrain from vaginal sex too. She should get a man who eats pussy.


So pretty much any idea you don't like.
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Then why were you being one sided in your sexism and initially trying to say the guy had the responsibility??

Is that what I said or just your assumption??

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g r i n d said:
This is a hypothetical, obviously, because its not realistic.

Lets assume that upon conception, there is no developmental stage of the fetus. It's just "poof" and then there is a fully formed baby in the womb right off the bat. However, the baby would still need to be in the womb for 9 months before birth.

Should abortion still be allowed in these cases? :thinking:

If so, why. If not, why not?
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Grind are you old enough to remember back alley,coat hanger abortions?
Making abortion illegal doesn't end abortion!
Did illegal pot,stop pot smoking?
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Then why were you being one sided in your sexism and initially trying to say the guy had the responsibility??
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I didn't say that. I said that the guy has a choice in the matter in response to someone saying it's not entirely fair for the guy, a point I agreed with.

This is what happens when you jump in the middle of a conversation specifically to try to disagree with someone.
 
StoneByStone said:
I didn't say that. I said that the guy has a choice in the matter in response to someone saying it's not entirely fair for the guy, a point I agreed with.

This is what happens when you jump in the middle of a conversation specifically to try to disagree with someone.
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Then why just mention the guy, instead of making it both gender inclusive.

This is what happens when you try to appear to be non-biased and your true feelings are revealed, by what you post.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Exactly. Men who are against abortion should be keeping it in their pants, and instructing their sons to do likewise.
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sex is a natural part of life and this doesn't seem to be a realistic solution. Don't you think we can do better than "abstain from all sex" vs. "or risk being stuck with a kid for the rest of your life" because the woman wouldn't abort a blastocyst?"
 
MASON said:
Grind are you old enough to remember back alley,coat hanger abortions?
Making abortion illegal doesn't end abortion!
Did illegal pot,stop pot smoking?
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i'm actually pro-abortion, I don't play gotcha games on JPP, my questions are genuine because even though I think one way, I like to know how other people think and how their ideology is crafted.

Not many pro-choicers have spoken up in this thread yet, but I have found it interesting so far that the pro-choicers that have spoken up admit to believing that a womans sovreignty over her body is not unlimited. I find that very interesting and a bit surprising.

Personally if I could get pregant, I am trying to think of what my attitude would be to an effective parasite growing inside me, and I am pretty sure I would support blending up it's brains if need be. I am consistent on these issues, I believe in gun rights even if it means the death of some kids in a school shooting, and thus I also support abotions even if it means we have to crack some baby skulls. Though I am open to counter arguments on that front as my ideas on this are not fully formed.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Exactly. Men who are against abortion should be keeping it in their pants, and instructing their sons to do likewise.
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you are going to end up with a society where the sex toy industry is going to explode. In another 20 years are so there probably are going to be realistic sex robots and a lot of men are just going to completely check out. I don't think it's unreasonable to allow some leeway for men to have a "financial abortion"

Of course the concern is a man would just let a woman be pregnant for 9 months and then just peace the fu ck out. That's not acceptable either. But I do believe it doesn't have to be an all or nothing thing and there could be reasonable accommodations for both parties. This is how we can get both sides to win.
 
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