I see we have another film buff in our ranks. Apparently, some low budget British film was about assassinating Bush was hugely popular among the righties but none of them saw The Untouchables. Weird.
Question regarding Arizona shooting.
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I see we have another film buff in our ranks. Apparently, some low budget British film was about assassinating Bush was hugely popular among the righties but none of them saw The Untouchables. Weird.
So Obama is also a time traveller that can himself broadcast events where no national television media are present to a national television audience.
You couldn't mangle the facts to such an extent again even if you tried really really hard.
Actually, I'm coming around to that position. I mean, given the lens through which Sarah Palin's audience sees the world vis a vis guns and such and the lens through which the average Democrat sees the world vis a vis guns and such, using the crosshair-RELOAD imagery to the Tea Party types is a more direct invocation of violence even if the words and images used are the exactly the same (even though they aren't).
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Was anyone there "strapped"? Since it was a democrat event, most would not have been. Especially since all the flack about people carrying at political events. So some of those who MIGHT have been strapped, may not have due to the whining of people like you. Words have consequences, remember?
And a lunatic is not going to be stopped. In a free society there will always be dangers. Perhaps you see it being worth it trade your freedoms for a false sense of security, but the rest of us dont.
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The Almighty
Once again, our Super "dumb" freak demonstrates his inability to comprehend what he reads.
I didn't allude to "no" violent crime.....I merely point out that Pima has the system that gunners swore would stop/prevent/lower such crimes as what happened to Gifford and the other victims.
Well, reality check.....IT DIDN'T. What it did result in was a nut job rejected by the Army who easily purchased a weapon with an extended magazine, who killed 9 people and was taken down BY UNARMED CIVILIANS.
But hey, maybe next time it'll happen just like you gunners keep saying it will.
LMAO... yeah, you did allude to "no" violent crime.
You stated that this incident is proof the gun policies in AZ don't work to stop/prevent/lower such crimes.
ONE incident is not evidence that the laws don't work. If you cited statistics showing the crime rates had increased over time despite the laws... THAT would validate your point.
But your ignorance compels you to continue to spout the same ignorance yet again.
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The Almighty
The ideologies of Marx and Hitler are diametrically opposed to each other, you Super Dumbass Freak! And the anti-gov't ravings that his nut has had over the years on his website postings is right up the alley of the Teabagger dogma we've all seen/heard since 2008. And who was the politico that wanted to reduce the federal gov't to a size he could strangle in the bath tub? Not a Dem or Liberal or Progressive, if I remember.
Some college kids opinion doesn't add-up with the evidence. Palin's placating statements and presence at Teabagger rallies were they were spewing all types of off-the-wall paranoid, anti-gov't BS is so reflective of Loughner's ravings that "coincidence" becomes scary.
Yes, Hitler and Marx are opposed, the point is that he read both, told his friend he was fond of Marx. He was more an anarchist than anything if you really want to label him.
Your obsessive need to blame Palin is pathetic. If you actually pay attention to the facts that have been released, it is now known that he has been obsessed with Giffords since 2007. Long before Palin and the tea party.
These were the actions of a lunatic. Period.
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The Almighty
LMAO.... do link us up to where you found out the Army rejected him due to mental instability.
What I heard reported was that they rejected him because he failed a drug test.
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The Almighty
Yet another example of Nigel drinking his masters kool-aid.
Your training is complete. You are now a hack master.
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The Almighty
Seeing the 'untouchables' doesn't change the fact that a 'crazy' person could hear the President repeat the quote and unhinge them enough to set them off. Isn't that your argument? That we can't say things like that because a 'crazy' person may misinterpret them?
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The Almighty
It is also very comical that you continue to pretend the assassination movie wasn't publicized here. Just because it was a complete flop, doesn't mean the idiots on the left didn't try to publicize it here.
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http://www.politicalarticles.net/bl...set-for-dc-protest-hate-is-not-entertainment/
So now the tea party has been around for 4 years?
Do provide us with examples of the 'threatening rhetoric'
I think both sides are jumping to conclusions, he hasn't said anything about what influenced him at this point. You don't know if it was or wasn't Sarah Palin. Seems both sides are jumping on the blame the other guy bandwagon when everyone should take responsibility. It seems to me we all failed this guy and Gabby Giffords.
Oh, come on, surely you are aware of the threatening rhetoric. The language both sides uses is used purposely to fire up their bases. It may not be used to incite violence, but that is what happens. The mob mentality takes over at times. It is why there were lynch mobs in our past. It is why Jesus was crucified, the crowd chose him over Barabas. There are examples on both sides as has been presented in other threads.
What do you credit the violent threats against Judge Rollins to? In one article it stated that he had just come off high security protection,
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/2009/07/09/20090709threats0709.html
thanks, I am just curious as to why you are so sure this isn't about rhetoric at this point when we really haven't heard from the shooter and probably won't until he is in prison for several years and wants to get attention once again, like so many before him.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
When the sheriff states that "one party is trying to make it better for the people and the other party is blocking them all the time" (paraphrasing)
it leaves little doubt what and who he is blaming....
Maybe you need things spelled out for you, but the rest of us know what he is implying...
I'm not interested in the "para-phrasing" by an intellectually impotent neocon parrot like yourself, Bravo. Give the full quote of what the man said....or be your ususal false Bravo self and bluff about it's not your job to provide accurate information when you start BS'ing.
The Sheriff is stating FACT....and the heavy documentation of the neocon driven GOP's panic inducing rhetoric since 2008 is parallel to the rantings of Loughner...the coincidence is frightening.
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Taichiliberal
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The only "fallout" is that the neocon driven GOP are scrambling like roaches to try and distance themselves from their panic inducing, confrontational anti-Obama/gov't rhetoric for the last 3 years that is so scarily similar to Loughner's rantings. The Sheriff just stated a matter of fact.....and you don't like it.
Taichiliberal
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that this post modern fool took the time and effort to essentially say nothing is a sad testament to his petty, childish mentality.
Taichiliberal
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Post #72 & #73. Comparing a metaphor in a speech to constant, repeated mantras in the face of an audience echoing veiled threats are two different things.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Your regurgitating the gunners rhetoric won't change the FACTS that the societal situation YOU advocated EXISTED in Pima....and it DID NOT work out as folk like you always assert it should. Deal with it.
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