Litmus
Verified User
Shut up, racist.
Racism Extinct? Or, Republicans just stupid?
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Shut up, racist.
Litmus
Verified User
Go bounce on it, darla.
uscitizen
Villified User
Litmus
Verified User
There is no other way to deal with an overt racist such as yourself.
uscitizen
Villified User
LOL,, NO.
Anyway America was built on diversity merging together. It is one of the factors that made us great for a while.....
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The Almighty
Because Bush men are not known for their intelligence
uscitizen
Villified User
LOL, that is pretty funny.
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Blacks don't simply vote for black faces, nor do we celebrate any black face in front of us. Colin Powell and Condalezza Rice are perfect examples that we have our own criteria for who and what should be celebrated. We expect more from the black face than we do of others.
The decision between Obama and Clinton by black voters is balanced between the pragmatic and the emotional. Obama keeps pushing blacks towards the pragmatic decision when he doesn't step up and step out of the "politician" mode. Ok .. he knows of the "Audacity of Hope" .. now let's see some audacity of courage. The issue of the injustice of the American Just-Us System may not be of importance to the rest of America, but it's near the top of the list among blacks. Jena 6 was a perfect opportunity for Obama to step up and speak directly to the issue of racial injustice .. PROVEN and DOCUMENTED racial injustice .. but he offered a weak press release instead at a time when he had the stage.
Sure, we understand he's playing politics and has to try to appease whires who support him .. but shouldn't those whites also understand the injustice of locking away countless blacks for drugs when in fact, the overwhelming number of illegal drug users, sellers, importers, and producers of illegal drugs in America are white .. as much as 72%? Shouldn't those whites who support him also be able to recognize the injustice of the PROVEN and DOCUMENTED disparities in arrests, sentencing, and probation?
Shouldn't all Americans be concerned that America has become the greatest prison nation in all the world .. far surpassing China, Russia, India, North Korea, Iran, and all the totaltitarian nations we love to hate?
Obama has the mike .. shouldn't he be talking about it? If he's going to be just another politician who will shy away from the truth, then why should he or anyone else expect him to be viewed by blacks as just another politician? If he's going to be just another, why not support Clinton's wife, a view I don't share, but understand. Bill Clinton remains the most popular president in history to African-Americans, another view I don't share but understand. The expectation is that Bill will keep Hillary involved in issues important to us, especially given that he's freed from the constraints of being the president himself.
The expectation that blacks votre for and support anyone black comes from white America .. not from us.
Also, those who read black media would know that many expect that Obama will be Hillary's pick for VP, which could actually lead a still racist America into having a black president 8 years from now. If Obama does good work and Hillary duplicates any of Bill's successes .. OF WHICH THERE WERE MANY .. Obama would be in the perfect spot to slide into the big chair.
It's a pragmatic view and approach to accomplishing what America will have to be led into doing.
Additionally, African-Americans are THE most antiwar demographic in America. We never bought into the war and have been consistently against it from the beginning. Had America listened to us there would be hundreds of thousands of innocent people still alive. Thus, when Obama waffled on attacking Iran, then said he could support an attack on Iran, his stock dropped and many began to re-consider the pragmatic view, even though Hillary is the Xena the War Queen, it's a hell of a lot better than considering what judges will be picked by Guiliani who is Satan himself, or Milt "the religion of blacks didn't become human until 1969" Romney .. or what wars they will start.
The mainstream view of black politics is often condescending and it perpretrates the view that it's just a "black thing", and too bad, but expected.
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That is correct and I've never denied it. I have, on the other hand, maintained that if a black person ran for a national office and "knuckle dragging" southerners agreed with his policy, they would vote for him. I guarantee you that if it weren't for Iraq and Condalezza Rice was running against Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama, she'd win the south in a landslide even though she is black and she is a woman. It is policy that matters.
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
I guarantee you that neither Rice or Powell would win in the south.
It's like Charles Barkley professing he wants to the Governor of Alabama.
OrnotBitwise
Watermelon
I suspect you're the sort who would blame a woman for getting herself raped by wearing attire you consider provocative, too.
This bears reiterating, especially in light of the bigotry on display above:
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Absolutely .. an incredible display of what still is America.
TheDanold
Unimatrix
I don't know how you can post that with a straight face. The breakdown in the family with blacks came in the 1960's at a time with unprecedented gains in a society becoming less racist.
The reality is that the breakdown in the family affected ALL races that lived in those areas where nothing but Liberal social welfare policies were promoted (ie: the inner cities), blacks just happened to be in higher percentages living there, but it's not like the whites there fared any better.
The father's role in a family is not only as a provider but as a point of stability. Government supplanting that with "programs", checks and food stamps is what lead a lot of women there to ditch the father and a lot of father's to feel less guilty about leaving.
Racism had fuck all to do with it, Americans were WAY more racist in previous generations before the 1960's and you did NOT see barely any breakdown in the family at all.
OrnotBitwise
Watermelon
That's because what you call "the breakdown of the family" is undefined and therefor entirely up to your imagination. I'd be curious to see your methodology here.
The breakdown of the family is a largely meaningless phrase. It's also almost entirely irrelevant the way that most people seem to use it.
The point you seem incapable of addressing is that the negative trends in African American culture so often cited by bigots -- and others, admittedly -- are actually symptoms of the problem, not causes of the problem. The problem being that discrimination by the dominant culture has caused a disproportionate number of African Americans to be mired in poverty for generations. And the effect becomes worse with each generation so afflicted.
Before Iraq II I would have loved to see that scenario play out. I really think you would have to back up on that first statement.
As for Charles (I am not a role model) Barkley, yes, I suspect he would have a hard time winning an election. But then people change and I haven't seen what he thinks is good policy now. It has been a long time since he made that statement.
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
He grew up my friend and recognized that this is America and he's talking about the south where the horror of slavery is still celebrated as "heritage"
Litmus
Verified User
That's because what you call "the breakdown of the family" is undefined and therefor entirely up to your imagination. I'd be curious to see your methodology here.
The breakdown of the family is a largely meaningless phrase. It's also almost entirely irrelevant the way that most people seem to use it.
The point you seem incapable of addressing is that the negative trends in African American culture so often cited by bigots -- and others, admittedly -- are actually symptoms of the problem, not causes of the problem. The problem being that discrimination by the dominant culture has caused a disproportionate number of African Americans to be mired in poverty for generations. And the effect becomes worse with each generation so afflicted.
It's not UNDEFINED you oaf. It's the breakdown of the family itself, no father, a mentality of dependancy, the replacement of normalcy with "thug life" values etc. These are symptoms left over from a problem in the past. BUT YOUR PEOPLE ARE STILL ACTING THIS WAY. Stop whining about whitey.
Litmus
Verified User
It's not her fault. But dressing that way does give a rapist ideas. That's just the truth of the matter.
OrnotBitwise
Watermelon
Oooo. A "mentality of dependancy (sic)"? Wow, that sounds really bad. And "normalcy"? What the heck is that, anyway? As to fathers, well, many perfectly stable and decent families don't have them. Or have several, for that matter. You'll have to justify any assertion that one is the only appropriate number thereof.
You are never willing to define your terms because you're too insecure and childish to examine your own beliefs with any sort of objectivity. And, as Plato once attributed to Socrates, the unexamined life is not worth living.
