Racism Extinct? Or, Republicans just stupid?

[OrnotBitwise]

It's not her fault. But dressing that way does give a rapist ideas. That's just the truth of the matter.

Dixie, where are you, dude? We need some higher quality trolls around here.

 

[Litmus]

Oooo. A "mentality of dependancy (sic)"? Wow, that sounds really bad. And "normalcy"? What the heck is that, anyway? As to fathers, well, many perfectly stable and decent families don't have them. Or have several, for that matter. You'll have to justify any assertion that one is the only appropriate number thereof.

You are never willing to define your terms because you're too insecure and childish to examine your own beliefs with any sort of objectivity. And, as Plato once attributed to Socrates, the unexamined life is not worth living.

Mentalities of dependancy are bad. You wouldn't know normalcy if it came and assfucked you with that same strap on penis knife from the movie 'se7en'.

You and your endless word mangling which you use to substitute for intelligence can take a flying leap.

 

[uscitizen]

You and your endless word mangling which you use to substitute for intelligence can take a flying leap.

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Were you looking in the mirror while typing that Asshat ?

 

[OrnotBitwise]

Mentalities of dependancy are bad. You wouldn't know normalcy if it came and assfucked you with that same strap on penis knife from the movie 'se7en'.

You and your endless word mangling which you use to substitute for intelligence can take a flying leap.

Are they? Interesting notion. Can you even adequately describe what you mean by the phrase? I think I can guess but I'm not going to go there: it's your thesis, you support it.

I know some things I would consider far worse than any sort of habit of dependency. Three of them are arrogance, nationalism and ethnocentrism.

Finally, no one gave you license to define what's normal, there, kiddo. Normalcy is a slippery concept and subject only to consensus, in the final analysis. I suspect that what's "normal" for me and my family is likely to be entirely abnormal to yours -- and vice verse, naturally.

 

[Cancel7]

Blacks don't simply vote for black faces, nor do we celebrate any black face in front of us. Colin Powell and Condalezza Rice are perfect examples that we have our own criteria for who and what should be celebrated. We expect more from the black face than we do of others.

The decision between Obama and Clinton by black voters is balanced between the pragmatic and the emotional. Obama keeps pushing blacks towards the pragmatic decision when he doesn't step up and step out of the "politician" mode. Ok .. he knows of the "Audacity of Hope" .. now let's see some audacity of courage. The issue of the injustice of the American Just-Us System may not be of importance to the rest of America, but it's near the top of the list among blacks. Jena 6 was a perfect opportunity for Obama to step up and speak directly to the issue of racial injustice .. PROVEN and DOCUMENTED racial injustice .. but he offered a weak press release instead at a time when he had the stage.

Sure, we understand he's playing politics and has to try to appease whires who support him .. but shouldn't those whites also understand the injustice of locking away countless blacks for drugs when in fact, the overwhelming number of illegal drug users, sellers, importers, and producers of illegal drugs in America are white .. as much as 72%? Shouldn't those whites who support him also be able to recognize the injustice of the PROVEN and DOCUMENTED disparities in arrests, sentencing, and probation?

Shouldn't all Americans be concerned that America has become the greatest prison nation in all the world .. far surpassing China, Russia, India, North Korea, Iran, and all the totaltitarian nations we love to hate?

Obama has the mike .. shouldn't he be talking about it? If he's going to be just another politician who will shy away from the truth, then why should he or anyone else expect him to be viewed by blacks as just another politician? If he's going to be just another, why not support Clinton's wife, a view I don't share, but understand. Bill Clinton remains the most popular president in history to African-Americans, another view I don't share but understand. The expectation is that Bill will keep Hillary involved in issues important to us, especially given that he's freed from the constraints of being the president himself.

The expectation that blacks votre for and support anyone black comes from white America .. not from us.

Also, those who read black media would know that many expect that Obama will be Hillary's pick for VP, which could actually lead a still racist America into having a black president 8 years from now. If Obama does good work and Hillary duplicates any of Bill's successes .. OF WHICH THERE WERE MANY .. Obama would be in the perfect spot to slide into the big chair.

It's a pragmatic view and approach to accomplishing what America will have to be led into doing.

Additionally, African-Americans are THE most antiwar demographic in America. We never bought into the war and have been consistently against it from the beginning. Had America listened to us there would be hundreds of thousands of innocent people still alive. Thus, when Obama waffled on attacking Iran, then said he could support an attack on Iran, his stock dropped and many began to re-consider the pragmatic view, even though Hillary is the Xena the War Queen, it's a hell of a lot better than considering what judges will be picked by Guiliani who is Satan himself, or Milt "the religion of blacks didn't become human until 1969" Romney .. or what wars they will start.

The mainstream view of black politics is often condescending and it perpretrates the view that it's just a "black thing", and too bad, but expected.

"the religion of blacks didn't become human until 1969" Romney .. or what wars they will start.

bac, Romney made this statement?

 

[Litmus]

Are they? Interesting notion. Can you even adequately describe what you mean by the phrase? I think I can guess but I'm not going to go there: it's your thesis, you support it.

I know some things I would consider far worse than any sort of habit of dependency. Three of them are arrogance, nationalism and ethnocentrism.

Finally, no one gave you license to define what's normal, there, kiddo. Normalcy is a slippery concept and subject only to consensus, in the final analysis. I suspect that what's "normal" for me and my family is likely to be entirely abnormal to yours -- and vice verse, naturally.

Get a dictionary. Im using the standard meanings of the words. Again you attempt to substitute bickering about words as some sort of intelligence. that's why you're an idiot.

 

[cawacko]

"Author Andrew Hacker notes that in studies of black and white job-seekers with identical résumés who apply for publicly advertised jobs, we find incontrovertible evidence of "systemic discrimination that cannot be attributed to differences in skills between comparably educated blacks and whites." In one study, undertaken by the Urban Institute in Chicago and Washington, D.C., in the early 1990s, applicants were trained for jobs with nearly identical résumés to present themselves in exactly the same way in interviews. The result: Black males were three times as likely to be rejected as white males."

Hmm, it's almost as if the deck is loaded for the white male and not against him? Can this be?

Interesting. I work for a Fortune 1000 real estate company. Our company goes out of its way to look for qualified minorities (and specifically blacks) to hire. I know the two highest people in our company have for years been mentors to minorities in nearby MBA programs. Others may do it as well but I don't know.

This is just one company. Others may be like us or may not. But I know our company does active outreach to minority groups in recruiting.

 

[Socrtease]

You can suck my enormous cock and take the load in your eye. White people have a right to self preservation and a right to desire to increase their numbers, just as any other race. Your anti-white racism doesn't make you cool.

Why should ANYONE be proud of their race? I did not choose to be white. The contributions a white individual makes to this world are not MY contributions. They are his or hers and the fact that they are white does not make me or any other white person superior, good, smarter or anything else. I have NEVER understood this racial pride thing from any prospective. I do understand the black movements of the past. For 400 years being black was immediately considered a negative, mostly by white people, but even black children in some studies showed a dislike for black people because of the negative stereotypes that were thrust upon society. THe NAACP is not a "black pride" organization. It is an organization that works to insure that black people have the same chance at this thing we calll the american dream. the NAAWP however, was nothing more than a bunch of mouthbreathing white supremacists trying to make a political statement about being white and just ended up looking as stupid as they are.

White people have done good things in this world and they have done bad things. NONE OF IT is my fault nor should I get credit for it. The ONLY thing I should get credit for is the things I DO. You say that white people can't establish white pride groups. That is bullshit, they can and do. The problem is the white people that do it also run around claiming to be superior to the brown people. They type stupid shit like 88 or HH or RaHoWa.

 

[Cancel7]

Why should ANYONE be proud of their race? I did not choose to be white. The contributions a white individual makes to this world are not MY contributions. They are his or hers and the fact that they are white does not make me or any other white person superior, good, smarter or anything else. I have NEVER understood this racial pride thing from any prospective. I do understand the black movements of the past. For 400 years being black was immediately considered a negative, mostly by white people, but even black children in some studies showed a dislike for black people because of the negative stereotypes that were thrust upon society. THe NAACP is not a "black pride" organization. It is an organization that works to insure that black people have the same chance at this thing we calll the american dream. the NAAWP however, was nothing more than a bunch of mouthbreathing white supremacists trying to make a political statement about being white and just ended up looking as stupid as they are.

White people have done good things in this world and they have done bad things. NONE OF IT is my fault nor should I get credit for it. The ONLY thing I should get credit for is the things I DO. You say that white people can't establish white pride groups. That is bullshit, they can and do. The problem is the white people that do it also run around claiming to be superior to the brown people. They type stupid shit like 88 or HH or RaHoWa.

It’s a phenomenon Simone de Beauvoir writes about in The Second Sex, in a very amusing way, claiming that because Proust wrote Remembrance of Things Past, and he was a white man, all white men wrote Remembrance of Things Past, if you ask them.

It’s almost as if she knew Asshat.

 

[Litmus]

Why should ANYONE be proud of their race? I did not choose to be white. The contributions a white individual makes to this world are not MY contributions. They are his or hers and the fact that they are white does not make me or any other white person superior, good, smarter or anything else. I have NEVER understood this racial pride thing from any prospective. I do understand the black movements of the past. For 400 years being black was immediately considered a negative, mostly by white people, but even black children in some studies showed a dislike for black people because of the negative stereotypes that were thrust upon society. THe NAACP is not a "black pride" organization. It is an organization that works to insure that black people have the same chance at this thing we calll the american dream. the NAAWP however, was nothing more than a bunch of mouthbreathing white supremacists trying to make a political statement about being white and just ended up looking as stupid as they are.

White people have done good things in this world and they have done bad things. NONE OF IT is my fault nor should I get credit for it. The ONLY thing I should get credit for is the things I DO. You say that white people can't establish white pride groups. That is bullshit, they can and do. The problem is the white people that do it also run around claiming to be superior to the brown people. They type stupid shit like 88 or HH or RaHoWa.

Since we do lived in a racialized society, people are always trying to pin individuals to their race, putting them in groups, as if it mattered, liberals especially. A positive identity is just a way of countering these detrimental effects foisted into our minds by elitists who wish to keep humanity split. WHite guilt as espoused by academia is a way of convincing white individuals that they don't deserve success and should stop trying or should agree to racial discrimination against their very own selves. NIHILISM.

Im ready for your tirade against black pride now.

 

[blackascoal]

"the religion of blacks didn't become human until 1969" Romney .. or what wars they will start.

bac, Romney made this statement?

Nope, didn't say he did .. I said his religion did.

The Book of Mormon ..

2 Nephi 5: 21- 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'

Alma 3: 6- 'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'

In a 1954 in address at Brigham Young University, Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said ...

"The discussion on civil rights, especially over the last 20 years, has drawn some very sharp lines. It has blinded the thinking of some of our own people, I believe. They have allowed their political affiliations to color their thinking to some extent.I think I have read enough to give you an idea of what the Negro is after."

"He is not just seeking the opportunity of sitting down in a cafe where white people eat. He isn't just trying to ride on the same streetcar or the same Pullman car with white people. It isn't that he just desires to go to the same theater as the white people. From this, and other interviews I have read, it appears that the Negro seeks absorption with the white race. He will not be satisfied until he achieves it by intermarriage."

"That is his objective and we must face it. We must not allow our feelings to carry us away, nor must we feel so sorry for Negroes that we will open our arms and embrace them with everything we have. Remember the little statement that we used to say about sin, 'First we pity, then endure, then embrace'...."

In 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said ..

"The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.

The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."

How about this gem of wisdom from Brigham Young himself ..

"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."

Really .. how about this, science and intelligence has determined that ALL humans are of African descent .. should God "face death on the spot" for mixing black people with whites?

Through government pressure for the mormons to abandon their demented thoughts of superiority or lose their tax-free status and from sports teams who wouldn't play BYU and from the general population, they finally relented in 1978 and got a revelation from God .. who wanted to keep the tax-free status, that blacks could now suddenly become priests.

You may remember the trouble Dennis Rodman got in for talking about mormons.

The point is that although Romney himself didn't say these things, I question, and would question the thinking of anyone who adheres to such a belief based on such lunatic thinking

I grew up in Detroit, so I had the pleasure of seeing Gladys Knight perform many times and I just loved the woman. She's a mormon these days and I can't listen to another Gladys Knight song ever again in life.

 

[Cancel7]

Nope, didn't say he did .. I said his religion did.

The Book of Mormon ..

2 Nephi 5: 21- 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'

Alma 3: 6- 'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'

In a 1954 in address at Brigham Young University, Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said ...

"The discussion on civil rights, especially over the last 20 years, has drawn some very sharp lines. It has blinded the thinking of some of our own people, I believe. They have allowed their political affiliations to color their thinking to some extent.I think I have read enough to give you an idea of what the Negro is after."

"He is not just seeking the opportunity of sitting down in a cafe where white people eat. He isn't just trying to ride on the same streetcar or the same Pullman car with white people. It isn't that he just desires to go to the same theater as the white people. From this, and other interviews I have read, it appears that the Negro seeks absorption with the white race. He will not be satisfied until he achieves it by intermarriage."

"That is his objective and we must face it. We must not allow our feelings to carry us away, nor must we feel so sorry for Negroes that we will open our arms and embrace them with everything we have. Remember the little statement that we used to say about sin, 'First we pity, then endure, then embrace'...."

In 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said ..

"The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.

The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."

How about this gem of wisdom from Brigham Young himself ..

"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."

Really .. how about this, science and intelligence has determined that ALL humans are of African descent .. should God "face death on the spot" for mixing black people with whites?

Through government pressure for the mormons to abandon their demented thoughts of superiority or lose their tax-free status and from sports teams who wouldn't play BYU and from the general population, they finally relented in 1978 and got a revelation from God .. who wanted to keep the tax-free status, that blacks could now suddenly become priests.

You may remember the trouble Dennis Rodman got in for talking about mormons.

The point is that although Romney himself didn't say these things, I question, and would question the thinking of anyone who adheres to such a belief based on such lunatic thinking

I grew up in Detroit, so I had the pleasure of seeing Gladys Knight perform many times and I just loved the woman. She's a mormon these days and I can't listen to another Gladys Knight song ever again in life.

No I didn’t know any of this, I am not familiar with the religion. I really should pay more attention.

 

[uscitizen]

Republicans dearly want the american people to believe there is no rascism in America.

 

[OrnotBitwise]

Get a dictionary. Im using the standard meanings of the words. Again you attempt to substitute bickering about words as some sort of intelligence. that's why you're an idiot.

"Standard meanings?" But of course you get to set the standards, no?

Come on, super-chicken: let's examine this hypothesis of yours with some rigor. Don't be scared. If it's really as obvious as you claim then I'll just end up looking silly.

What is a "mentality of dependency" in this context? Can you at least give some examples? Is it a meme that has become self-sustaining or is it constantly reinforced by outside influences?

 

[Litmus]

"Standard meanings?" But of course you get to set the standards, no?

Come on, super-chicken: let's examine this hypothesis of yours with some rigor. Don't be scared. If it's really as obvious as you claim then I'll just end up looking silly.

What is a "mentality of dependency" in this context? Can you at least give some examples? Is it a meme that has become self-sustaining or is it constantly reinforced by outside influences?

No. I use the dictionary. You should too. No fear here. I just don't engage in this sort of idiocy with idiots like you. Tell me which word you don't understand.

 

[blackascoal]

No I didn’t know any of this, I am not familiar with the religion. I really should pay more attention.

NO, NO, NO

I don't mean to imply you should spend more time with religion my sister. You are doing just fine as you are.

But religious history is fascinating and tells the story of the greatest mindfuck in human history. It declares and SCREAMS out that humans are not a fully evolved species. .. We are stuck on stupid.

But that's good news for our future and perhaps one day humans of the future can look back on these days and say "DAYUM, those motherfuckers were as primative as dinasours"

 

[Litmus]

NO, NO, NO

I don't mean to imply you should spend more time with religion my sister. You are doing just fine as you are.

But religious history is fascinating and tells the story of the greatest mindfuck in human history. It declares and SCREAMS out that humans are not a fully evolved species. .. We are stuck on stupid.

But that's good news for our future and perhaps one day humans of the future can look back on these days and say "DAYUM, those motherfuckers were as primative as dinasours"

Is New Age Religion Primitive too?

 

[OrnotBitwise]

No. I use the dictionary. You should too. No fear here. I just don't engage in this sort of idiocy with idiots like you. Tell me which word you don't understand.

I have already asked you, far more reasonably and nicely than you deserve, to explain what "mentality of dependency" means.

 

[Litmus]

I have already asked you, far more reasonably and nicely than you deserve, to explain what "mentality of dependency" means.

Look up each word separately and then combine them.



You started asking where it comes from and such. Obviously you understand what it is .

 

[blackascoal]

Since we do lived in a racialized society, people are always trying to pin individuals to their race, putting them in groups, as if it mattered, liberals especially. A positive identity is just a way of countering these detrimental effects foisted into our minds by elitists who wish to keep humanity split. WHite guilt as espoused by academia is a way of convincing white individuals that they don't deserve success and should stop trying or should agree to racial discrimination against their very own selves. NIHILISM.

Im ready for your tirade against black pride now.

How about my tirade about black pride?

Can I preface my comments with some simple mathematics?

Been here for almost 400 years, relatively free for 42 years. That's it .. the conclusions are inescaplabe.

However, after nearly 400 years of demonic oppresion and the degrading of black people, "black pride" was essential to self-preservation. It was not about how ugly you are, but how powerfully equal I am.