Reality check on electric cars

[Daylight63]

Blatant lie.

It's very good. You should read it.

DON'T TRY TO BLAME YOUR PROBLEM ON ME OR ANYBODY ELSE, TWILIGHT!

You don't work in a lab. Stop pretending.

What is wrong with you?

 

[Into the Night]

What is wrong with you?

Nothing.

 

[Into the Night]

I know what an MSDS is, but not an "SDS." Let's start with the NFPA ratings:

A Material Safety Data Sheet. These list various characteristics and handling hazards of many different chemicals.
SDS is simply short for Safety Data Sheet. MSDS and SDS are synonyms.

An MSDS for anhydrous ammonia can be found here.

An MSDS for Lithium-ion batteries can be found here.

An MSDS for gasoline can be found here.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

A Material Safety Data Sheet. These list various characteristics and handling hazards of many different chemicals.
SDS is simply short for Safety Data Sheet. MSDS and SDS are synonyms.

An MSDS for anhydrous ammonia can be found here.

I knew that, but I've never heard of them called an SDS. Seems some bureaucrat with too much time on their hands added that terminology and the two terms are interchangeable.

 

[Into the Night]

I knew that, but I've never heard of them called an SDS. Seems some bureaucrat with too much time on their hands added that terminology and the two terms are interchangeable.

They are completely interchangeable. Both terms are used, since they are synonyms. No bureaucrat chooses the term used. Use whichever term you like to use.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Currently, less than 1% of the cars on the road are EVs.

Math error: Invalid operator. Logic error: False dichotomy fallacy.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

I knew that, but I've never heard of them called an SDS. Seems some bureaucrat with too much time on their hands added that terminology and the two terms are interchangeable.

The terminology (and the law) changed over a decade ago. I guess you and Into the Night aren't up on present technology or safety.
Products all had an SDS when Trump was in office. None had an MSDS.

https://www.osha.gov/sites/default/files/publications/OSHA3514.pdf

 

[Kafka]

it's really just about tariffs and border enforcement.

the rest you hallucinated because you're dumb.

Wish for our sake you understood economics better. But it's too late now. Enjoy paying a fuck ton more for goods now. You thought you were shocked by the high prices before? You ain't seen nuthin' yet.

 

[Daylight63]

I knew that, but I've never heard of them called an SDS.

I vastly preferred MSDS but they dropped the M a few years back.

 

[Daylight63]

Do you believe oil and coal are not still forming?

I have little doubt that they are continuing to form, but it isn't renewable on a scale that works for humanity. It renews on the scale of millions of years, not overnight.

 

[Lao Tse]

Wish for our sake you understood economics better. But it's too late now. Enjoy paying a fuck ton more for goods now. You thought you were shocked by the high prices before? You ain't seen nuthin' yet.

only on imports.

buy american!

 

[Truth Detector]

REALITY CHECK: At a neighborhood BBQ I was talking to a neighbor, a BC Hydro Executive. I asked him how that renewable thing was doing. He laughed, then got serious "If you really intend to adopt electric vehicles, you have to face certain realities."

"For example, a home charging system for a Tesla requires 75 amp service. The average house is equipped with 100 amp service. On our small street (approximately 25 homes), the electrical infrastructure would be unable to carry more than three houses with a single Tesla each. For even half the homes to have electric vehicles, the system would be wildly over-loaded. This is the elephant in the room with electric vehicles. Our residential infrastructure cannot bear the load."

So, as our genius elected officials promote this nonsense, not only are we being urged to buy these things and replace our reliable, cheap generating systems with expensive new windmills and solar cells, but we will also have to renovate our entire delivery system! This later "investment" will not be revealed until we're so far down this deadend road that it will be presented with an 'OOPS...!' and a shrug.

Eric test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors and he writes, "For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine." Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery. So, the range including the 9-gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh battery is approximately 270 miles.

It will take you 4.5 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. In a typical road trip, your average speed (including charging time) would be 20 mph.

According to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16 kwh of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery. The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned, so I looked up what I pay for electricity.

I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh. 16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery. $18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the Volt using the battery. Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine that gets only 32 mpg. $3.19 per gallon divided by 32 Mpg = $0.10 per mile.

The gasoline powered car costs about $25,000 while the Volt costs $46,000 plus. So, the Government wants us to pay twice as much for a car, that costs more than seven times as much to run and takes three times longer to drive across the country.

WAKE UP NORTH AMERICA!!!!!!!

Indeed. Also, in order to carry out this loony agenda along with AI, the power grid is woefully inadequate to handle it and believing that solar and wind can fill that need is laughably moronic.

But let's not forget the leftist loons who argue for this nonsense, they are not very smart, lack intelligence, are gullible and run on emotion rather than logic and common sense.

 

[Truth Detector]

Can't read MAGA's post but the instrumentation on those things must be awesome.

Check battery.
Check tire pressure.
Check reality.

Translation: NiftyNitWit prefers to remain ignorant, uneducated and enjoys being gaslighted and lied to.

 

[Nordberg]

only on imports.

buy american!

You do not know how dumb you are. https://www.credenceresearch.com/news/top-14-leading-auto-parts-manufacturing-companies-in-the-world

 

[Truth Detector]

You I do not know how dumb you are I am.

Indeed, not to mention you're dishonest, uneducated and lack any brains.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

The terminology (and the law) changed over a decade ago. I guess you and Into the Night aren't up on present technology or safety.
Products all had an SDS when Trump was in office. None had an MSDS.

https://www.osha.gov/sites/default/files/publications/OSHA3514.pdf

The difference is irrelevant.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

I vastly preferred MSDS but they dropped the M a few years back.

Well, SDS used to be Students for a Democratic Society, an ultra-Leftist, radical, and violent bunch of revolutionaries...

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

The difference is irrelevant.

The difference is one is obsolete and the other is required by law. I would hardly call that irrelevant.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

The difference is one is obsolete and the other is required by law. I would hardly call that irrelevant.

It is to everyone but what ever bureaucrat(s) came up with the change.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

It is to everyone but what ever bureaucrat(s) came up with the change.

ROFLMAO. I see you haven't had your SDS training which is required by OSHA.

They are not the same and they don't have the information in the same places. The SDS standardized the format of the information to make it easy to see the dangers of a product.