Reality check on electric cars

[Into the Night]

Not to mention far more user friendly as to where you can park one. If for example, you live in an apartment complex, you probably can't charge your EV there at all. The apartment complex owner(s) likely won't go for the added expense of putting in charging stations. You can't put one in as you are not the owner. You can't charge your vehicle if you have to park at some distance from your apartment since there's no way to run a charging line out to your vehicle.

Depends on where you are. Some cities are requiring landlords to install charging stations at their own expense before they get permits to do anything else to the property. In other words, fascism.

If you live in some rural area with unpaved roads and such, an EV is likely to be a risk driving it on those roads due to the battery pack normally being exposed on the bottom of the vehicle.

Yup. That battery has gotta be cooled. Undercarriage air is an important component of that cooling.

Even a person who doesn't garage their vehicle might face problems charging their EV as it sits in the driveway.

Also true. Extension cords generally don't handle the full 20A all day. The longer the cord, the more it heats up. Weather isn't nice to them either.

Since with vehicles like a Tesla, you have to put the car on charge whenever possible as you can't let it sit as it will still slowly drain the battery and if that goes to zero then your car is bricked and now unchargable and undrivable.

It takes awhile for a Tesla to do that, but...yes.

 

[Into the Night]

Correlation does not equal causation. There are plenty of alternative reasons the climate of the planet is changing other than CO2.

Climate cannot change. It has no value associated with it. Climate is a subjective description of prevailing conditions. There is no global climate. Earth has many climates. No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth.

It's idiots that willfully ignore these in favor of the popular CO2 explanation that are the flat earther types.

While a cliche, it's used against his cliche. Yes...the Church of Global Warming figures that CO2 somehow has the capability to create energy out of nothing.

This is just as true of the hole in the ozone layer fools who said it was all due to CFC's which has now been proven false.

Correct. CFC's are heavier than air. Like propane, they go down, not up. They are also inert. You can fill a tank with ozone and put CFC's in it, and nothing happens. No chemical reaction whatsoever.

Fixating on one variable in a complex system is a fool's errand.

It's not even a variable. It is complete and utter fiction. It also denies the Chapman cycle, and how ozone is created or destroyed.

 

[Into the Night]

It seems you aren't familiar with Tyndall or the experiments that proved that a gas mixture with more CO2 retains more heat.

Stop mocking Tyndall. Leave the poor guy out of your religion. It is not possible to store heat. No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth. You are AGAIN ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics. You cannot create energy out of nothing.

It is an experiment that has been repeated in a lot of HS science classes

No. The parlor trick you have been shown is just that...a parlor trick.

and all have the same result.

Of course. That's the point of the parlor trick.

Increasing the CO2 increases the temperature.

Nope. See the 1st law of thermodynamics. You cannot create energy out of nothing. No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth.

No one is claiming that CO2 is the only cause for climate change.

Climate cannot change. There is no value associated with it that can change. There is no such thing as a global climate. Buzzword fallacy. No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth. Denial of the 1st law of thermodynamics.

The IPCC

Science is not a government organization.

lists multiple causes for increases in temperature and decreases in temperature

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. The IPCC is MAKING SHIT UP.

which is all based on the science conducted by thousands of scientists.

No science here...move along...move along...

Science isn't a scientist or any group of scientists. It does not use consensus. Science is a set of falsifiable theories. That's it. That's all. Nothing more. Nothing at all. It has no religion. It has no politics. It has no voting bloc. It does not use consensus in any way.

CO2 is one of the major drivers but is not the only one.

CO2 is not a 'driver'. Buzzword fallacy.

Who said that the hole was all due to the CFCs?

The Church of the Ozone Hole.

There has always been a hole. CFCs were making it bigger.

CFC's do not react with ozone. They are also heavier than air. They don't make it up to the ozone layer. The 'hole' is at the poles. Why would CFC's in California affect the pole?? You can fill a tank with ozone and put CFCs in it, and NOTHING HAPPENS. No chemical reactions at all!

Your desire to deny the actual science

You are describing yourself.

seems to make you think you can make up whatever straw men you want in order to defeat them.

Describing yourself again.

Refusing to actually look at the science is the fool's errand

Whatever you say, fool.

and you seem to want to be an errand boy extraordinaire.

You are describing yourself again. Inversion fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

The real reason that Germany and Japan are so accurate in their matching is that after WW2, we rebuilt their industry with new and modern machinery. In America, we worked with machined held together with tape and bailing wire. They both recognized the value of accuracy and have kept working on it ever since. We of course lagged due to wanting instant profits.

No. The U.S. once machined the best stuff in the world. No longer. Due to government interference of various kinds, those industries CLOSED. That work is now done overseas.

 

[Into the Night]

That was one of the worst posts I have ever read. It was really stupid.

It's your stupidity. Inversion fallacy.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Here's how the Left explains climate change:

Profanity
Excuses
Obtuseness
Not
Science.

They are PEONS!

 

[Stringfellow Hawk]

Agreed. His 'long trip' would not even get one out of State, if he were traveling east from Seattle. He would barely make Spokane.

when roaming the southeast I would have to charge once or twice during the day and once at night, and all of those charges would have fees. that is nuts

 

[Lionfish]

From the mouth of a breast feeding male,

 

[Lionfish]

 

[Nordberg]

Better get out on the road and see what people are driving, dude. Ain't gonna happen.

I know sense is difficult for you, but I really cannot go out and see 5 years into the future. 5 years may be too soon, but it is coming and you will be driving an EV too.

 

[Into the Night]

Here's how the Left explains climate change:

Profanity
Excuses
Obtuseness
Not
Science.

They are PEONS!

Heh. I have a lab coat too. Mine is white.

 

[Into the Night]

I know sense is difficult for you, but I really cannot go out and see 5 years into the future. 5 years may be too soon, but it is coming and you will be driving an EV too.

You can't see that it's going to take more than five years???? You can't see that it won't ever happen???

You're blind.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Heh. I have a lab coat too. Mine is white.

That's not a lab coat Nye is wearing, it's a straight jacket. He just slipped out of the bindings...

 

[Nordberg]

You can't see that it's going to take more than five years???? You can't see that it won't ever happen???

You're blind.

You have a lab coat over your eyes. It will happen. You really cannot see that? Norway is 75 percent electric now and growing. https://electrek.co/2021/12/03/norway-again-shows-all-electric-car-future-closer-than-people-think/

 

[Stringfellow Hawk]

I know sense is difficult for you, but I really cannot go out and see 5 years into the future. 5 years may be too soon, but it is coming and you will be driving an EV too.

many of us will never drive one, Large metro areas there will be many of them with lots of brown outs. The fly over states will not see 1 out of 10 people driving them

 

[Into the Night]

You have a lab coat over your eyes. It will happen. You really cannot see that? Norway is 75 percent electric now and growing. https://electrek.co/2021/12/03/norway-again-shows-all-electric-car-future-closer-than-people-think/

Because of fascism, dude.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

You have a lab coat over your eyes. It will happen. You really cannot see that? Norway is 75 percent electric now and growing. https://electrek.co/2021/12/03/norway-again-shows-all-electric-car-future-closer-than-people-think/

With massive subsidies and a country the size of New Mexico, half of which is too rugged mountain terrain to have much of anything on it...

 

[BartenderElite]

I mean, everyone knows that technology never changes. You never see innovation or improvement.

 

[Into the Night]

With massive subsidies and a country the size of New Mexico, half of which is too rugged mountain terrain to have much of anything on it...

It's not just the subsidies. Norway has banned ICE cars.

It's fascism.

 

[Into the Night]

I mean, everyone knows that technology never changes. You never see innovation or improvement.

Fascism is not improvement.
The electric car is not an improvement.