Reality check on electric cars

QP! said:
Oh so you are that stupid.

When you have a RATE, what it MEANS is if you had the same amount of EV's on the road as ICE, it would still be the same in terms of how many more ICE caught fire.

It means whether you have 1 million of each and ICE and EV or 1B of each ICE and EV, the ICE vehicle will have 20 times MORE fires than the EV.

I did not expect that idiot gfm to understand how basic math works, and now we know you do not either.
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Math error: Boundary error. False equality of unequal values.
Logic error: Base rate fallacy.
 
QP! said:
What are you even arguing you simpleton?

If for instance some generic cell phone broke down 20 times more than an Apple cell phone, that is good DATA to show which is more reliable.

You DO NOT counter that by saying 'ya but Apple has way more cell phones out their in the market'.


I understand math is hard and some people literally cannot be explained how it works. But the quantity of each is IRRELEVENT to the point.

In pure math terms X catches fire 20 times more than Y catches fire.

And in this example X is Ice vehicle and Y is EV's. So no matter what the total quantity of X or Y you plug in, the '20 times MORE' factor DOES NOT change.
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Attempted proof by contrivance.

Math errors: Failure to provide published data. Boundary error. Unequal values used as equal values.
Logic errors: Base rate fallacy. Pivot fallacy.
 
We have 3 electric cars in our family. Our next cars will also be electric. We have had lots and lots of ICEs. Even you idiots can figure out that we know something about them through many decades of experience. We prefer EVs after living with and driving ICEs . You rightys on this board hate EVs and have had zero experience. That makes you less qualified to compare them.
 
Nordberg said:
We have 3 electric cars in our family. Our next cars will also be electric. We have had lots and lots of ICEs. Even you idiots can figure out that we know something about them through many decades of experience. We prefer EVs after living with and driving ICEs . You rightys on this board hate EVs and have had zero experience. That makes you less qualified to compare them.
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Boasting about your welfare is not going to work, Sock. You know nothing about cars.
I don't need experience driving a piece of shit to know it's a piece of shit, Sock.
 
Nordberg said:
We have 3 electric cars in our family. Our next cars will also be electric. We have had lots and lots of ICEs. Even you idiots can figure out that we know something about them through many decades of experience. We prefer EVs after living with and driving ICEs . You rightys on this board hate EVs and have had zero experience. That makes you less qualified to compare them.
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So? What works for you obviously doesn't work for most Americans. That's why most Americans won't buy, don't want, and walk away from EV's. The market has decided, and EV's aren't what the market wants. That's been true for over a century now.

The ONLY thing that's changed this time around is the radical environmentalist Left and their supporters have put the force of government--read that as authoritarian dictatorship of government--behind EV's and are forcing them down everyone's throats against their will. That is the ONLY reason EV's have gotten any traction in the market.


Jay misses the truth of it. EV's are fine in many urban settings, but even there they have limitations. They don't work for rural areas worth a shit and people that live in those areas know it.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
So? What works for you obviously doesn't work for most Americans. That's why most Americans won't buy, don't want, and walk away from EV's. The market has decided, and EV's aren't what the market wants. That's been true for over a century now.

The ONLY thing that's changed this time around is the radical environmentalist Left and their supporters have put the force of government--read that as authoritarian dictatorship of government--behind EV's and are forcing them down everyone's throats against their will. That is the ONLY reason EV's have gotten any traction in the market.


Jay misses the truth of it. EV's are fine in many urban settings, but even there they have limitations. They don't work for rural areas worth a shit and people that live in those areas know it.
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They will work for nearly everyone. There is no arcane usage required. They are simply better ways to commute and shop. You Luddites spend a lot of time conjuring up special circumstances that EVs may not serve. They get over 200 miles of range. When GM built the Volt in 2013, they did an arduous study that showed its EV range was adequate for 83 percent of the people. Now the range is 4 or 5 times longer and there are lots of charging stations. EVs will work for almost everybody.
 
Nordberg said:
They will work for nearly everyone. There is no arcane usage required. They are simply better ways to commute and shop. You Luddites spend a lot of time conjuring up special circumstances that EVs may not serve. They get over 200 miles of range. When GM built the Volt in 2013, they did an arduous study that showed its EV range was adequate for 83 percent of the people. Now the range is 4 or 5 times longer and there are lots of charging stations. EVs will work for almost everybody.
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They'll work for virtually no one. Aside from that, that still doesn't address government FORCING them on the market rather than letting the market decide. People don't want them even with massive subsidies and other government bribes attached.
 
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