REDUX: How Election Fraud Is Conducted By The Democrat/RINO (Uni)Party

[Truck Fump / h1b]

To avoid a 10k word essay, I'm only responding to the first two items for now

You're not buying that I paid attention to both sides of the claims? Why? Do you believe that you did pay attention and I'm just way off?

- Were you aware that Georgia sued True the Vote to force them to turn over their evidence of ballot harvesting because TTV refused to turn it over voluntarily?

- Were you aware that the trucker didn't deliver any ballots to Harrisburg and that they were returned to where he got them?

- Were you aware that Georgia investigated the voter fraud numbers that Trump referenced when he called Georgia and publicly refuted all of them?

- Were you aware that the Georgia Secretary of State, who you've claimed was in on the stealing of Georgia, had publicly criticized Fulton county for their inability to get their shit together and run elections correctly?

- Were you aware that Raffensperger, who's allegedly in on the steal called for the firing of Fulton County election officials?
- Were you aware that Raffensperger considered having the state take over the running of elections because Fulton County couldn't get their shit together?

-Were you aware that the Georgia Board of Elections announced the punishment for Fulton County?

That's just ONE state.

Were you aware that individual state courts ruled on the constitutionality of some of the changes made during Covid and ruled that the changes were made illegally or were illegal in themselves? Did you know that happened in the largely liberal state of Michigan?

Did you watch the 4 hour finally when Cyber Ninjas reviewed their findings with the AZ Senate and, despite their claims of hundreds of thousands of fraudulent/illegal ballots, ultimately found about 35 that needed further review?

So, please explain what you are not buying and what, of what I mentioned above, were you aware of before I brought them up.

I'm not buying this for a second. A rational, independently-thinking adult does not pivot and EVADE in order to keep an open mind. [/QUOTE]

I haven't evaded anything other than your unrelated question about ranking Trump as President.

And what have I pivoted on? Is it bad to be open to the possibility of a mass voter fraud conspiracy and then, as more information comes out and things just don't make sense, change my views?
[/QUOTE]
no real investigation were performed by meaningfully authority figures.

they all just lied for Dems.

 

[ZenMode]

it means the software is not checked or verified by any government authority.

its just.... whatever.

What does that mean, exactly? What are the real-world implications?

All states, including AZ where I live, have strict protocol on securely storing, updating and testing voting equipment before elections to ensure they are working correctly. AZ did a hand-count of ballots, as part of the Cyber Ninjas audit, and the hand-count matched the results of the machine count.

 

[IBDaMann]

You're not buying that I paid attention to both sides of the claims?

ZenMode Error: the "paid attention" pertains to the election theft when it happened. The "claims" are the perceptions, judgements and decisions of people well after the fact. You are mixing, matching and conflating.

Why? Do you believe that you did pay attention and I'm just way off?

Because you are pushing an absurdly false narrative and summarily denying everything that debunks your agenda. You haven't been honest about any part of this topic.

Say it with me: "There isn't any evidence of election theft whatsoever" ... and then ask me how I know that you are simply regurgitating what someone else is telling you to write.

Say it with me: "This election theft nonsense is just a conspiracy theory" ... and then ask me how I know you are being totally dishonest.

- Were you aware that Georgia sued True the Vote to force them to turn over their evidence of ballot harvesting because TTV refused to turn it over voluntarily?

Were you aware that I, as one of We the People, don't care what any swing-State government that participated in the election theft says or does? Were you aware that I don't care about what any seemingly rigged court of law has to say on such matter?

- Were you aware that the trucker didn't deliver any ballots to Harrisburg and that they were returned to where he got them?

Were you aware that only the occurrence of the activity is of any relevance?

- Were you aware that Georgia investigated the voter fraud numbers that Trump referenced when he called Georgia and publicly refuted all of them?

Were you aware that Georgia was one of the States in on the election theft?

- Were you aware that the Georgia Secretary of State, who you've claimed was in on the stealing of Georgia, had publicly criticized Fulton county for their inability to get their shit together and run elections correctly?

Were you aware that the Secretary of State isn't supposed to be involved in the electoral votes of the State and that he rendered Georgia's electoral votes null and void according to the Constitution by his sequestration of the votes from the Legislature?

- Were you aware that Raffensperger, who's allegedly in on the steal called for the firing of Fulton County election officials?
- Were you aware that Raffensperger considered having the state take over the running of elections because Fulton County couldn't get their shit together?
-Were you aware that the Georgia Board of Elections announced the punishment for Fulton County?

That's just ONE state.

None of this has any relevance to the topic at hand.

Were you aware that individual state courts ruled on the constitutionality of some of the changes made during Covid and ruled that the changes were made illegally or were illegal in themselves? Did you know that happened in the largely liberal state of Michigan?

Irrelevant.

Did you watch the 4 hour finally when Cyber Ninjas reviewed their findings with the AZ Senate and, despite their claims of hundreds of thousands of fraudulent/illegal ballots, ultimately found about 35 that needed further review?

I don't care what Cyber Ninjas dismisses.

 

[gfm7175]

Dear lord. What an idiotic thread. What was it Wingnuts were saying after the 2000 election? Sore Loserman.

Every time you ask these cerebrally impaired individuals to provide evidence they either don’t or they dream up some fanciful conspiracy theory or just plain make shit up.

Are y’all just jealous that, unlike you the majority of Americans like democracy and are unable to adapt to changes? Can’t you accept that in a Democracy you don’t always win?

The former USA was a republic, NOT a democracy.

Why do you hate the legacy of the greatest generation who destroyed fascism just to have their uneducated grand kids embrace it?

Define "fascism". How was it "destroyed"? How does it still exist after being "destroyed"?

Why do you hate democracy so much

Because it always (and usually rather quickly) dissolves, usually into anarchy, an oligarchy, or a dictatorship, none of which are any good.

that you have enthusiastically embraced a fascist like Trump.

A meaningless statement, as you seem to be clueless about how fascism is defined.

Why do you hate America and what it stands for?

You do realize our nations motto is E. Pluribus Unum

No it isn't. The former USA's motto was actually "In God We Trust".

and not E. Pluribus Redneck?

What about E. Pluribus Libtard?

 

[ZenMode]

Because you are pushing an absurdly false narrative and summarily denying everything that debunks your agenda. You haven't been honest about any part of this topic.

I don't have an agenda and I'm not pushing a narrative. Claims are being made about the 2020 election and I'm posting information related to those claims.

Say it with me: "There isn't any evidence of election theft whatsoever" ... and then ask me how I know that you are simply regurgitating what someone else is telling you to write.

Again, there are claims being made and there is information that either supports those claims or opposes those claims. I have no control over the information that supports the claims and I have no control over the information that opposes those claims. I'm only posting the information. I'm trying, or have tried, to figure it out just like everyone else.

Say it with me: "This election theft nonsense is just a conspiracy theory" ... and then ask me how I know you are being totally dishonest.

There are some parts that most definitely fall in the conspiracy theory realm. Venezuelan satellites and basically everything that comes from Mike Lindell.

 

[Lionfish]

 

[ZenMode]

ZenMode Error: the "paid attention" pertains to the election theft when it happened. The "claims" are the perceptions, judgements and decisions of people well after the fact. You are mixing, matching and conflating.

I forgot to include this.

What did you see when you were paying attention that made you believe the election was stolen or being stolen? You mentioned Trump votes decreasing. Was that one of things?

 

[ZenMode]

I'm not buying this for a second. A rational, independently-thinking adult does not pivot and EVADE in order to keep an open mind.

I haven't evaded anything other than your unrelated question about ranking Trump as President.

And what have I pivoted on? Is it bad to be open to the possibility of a mass voter fraud conspiracy and then, as more information comes out and things just don't make sense, change my views?

no real investigation were performed by meaningfully authority figures.

they all just lied for Dems.

What is a meaningful authority figure that you'd want to investigate?

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

What is a meaningful authority figure that you'd want to investigate?

who did investigate?

 

[ZenMode]

who did investigate?

The state of Georgia investigated claims extensively. Raffensperger and Germany were generally the mouthpieces, but they obviously weren't doing the actual work in some cases. There are people on the back end that are doing research, going through voter rolls and databases.

Who is the meaningful authority figure you'd like to see investigate.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

The state of Georgia investigated claims extensively. Raffensperger and Germany were generally the mouthpieces, but they obviously weren't doing the actual work in some cases. There are people on the back end that are doing research, going through voter rolls and databases.

Who is the meaningful authority figure you'd like to see investigate.

which person?

the state of Georgia Is not a person.

nobody investigated shit.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Rightys are stubbornly and stupidly into voter fraud. Fox paid almost a billion in damages for their lies about the election and Dominion machines. OAN settled with Smartec in a private deal that included they will not release the deal to the public. Who knows how much they had to pay for telling the same lies the dumbest of rightys on this board still believe?

If Fox and OAN do not teach you anything, then believe what Trump accomplished. He proved the election was fair and honest.

Funny, they were "lies" when Fox said them, but "truth" when you Marxists said the identical thing?

Diebold May Face Criminal Charges

A panel that recommended decertifying Diebold's touch-screen voting machines in California also wants to see the company face charges for violating the state's election laws. Kim Zetter reports from Sacramento, California.

www.wired.com

Oh, were we trying to lie this away?

 

[ZenMode]

which person?

the state of Georgia Is not a person.

nobody investigated shit.

So, you need, or at least want, a list of all of the names of every government employee who was involved in auditing, researching, etc. Why?

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

So, you need, or at least want, a list of all of the names of every government employee who was involved in auditing, researching, etc. Why?

how about 2 names?

 

[Into the Night]

You can stop using claims of fallacies to avoid actually answering questions anytime.

They are YOUR fallacies, moron. Inversion fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

Dear lord. What an idiotic thread. What was it Wingnuts were saying after the 2000 election? Sore Loserman.

Every time you ask these cerebrally impaired individuals to provide evidence they either don’t or they dream up some fanciful conspiracy theory or just plain make shit up.

Are y’all just jealous that, unlike you the majority of Americans like democracy and are unable to adapt to changes? Can’t you accept that in a Democracy you don’t always win? Why do you hate the legacy of the greatest generation who destroyed fascism just to have their uneducated grand kids embrace it? Why do you hate democracy so much that you have enthusiastically embraced a fascist like Trump. Why do you hate America and what it stands for? You do realize our nations motto is E. Pluribus Unum and not E. Pluribus Redneck?

Argument of the Stone fallacy.
The United States was never a democracy.
The oligarchy you want is not a democracy.

 

[Into the Night]

To avoid a 10k word essay, I'm only responding to the first two items for now

You're not buying that I paid attention to both sides of the claims? Why? Do you believe that you did pay attention and I'm just way off?

- Were you aware that Georgia sued True the Vote to force them to turn over their evidence of ballot harvesting because TTV refused to turn it over voluntarily?

- Were you aware that the trucker didn't deliver any ballots to Harrisburg and that they were returned to where he got them?

- Were you aware that Georgia investigated the voter fraud numbers that Trump referenced when he called Georgia and publicly refuted all of them?

- Were you aware that the Georgia Secretary of State, who you've claimed was in on the stealing of Georgia, had publicly criticized Fulton county for their inability to get their shit together and run elections correctly?

- Were you aware that Raffensperger, who's allegedly in on the steal called for the firing of Fulton County election officials?
- Were you aware that Raffensperger considered having the state take over the running of elections because Fulton County couldn't get their shit together?

-Were you aware that the Georgia Board of Elections announced the punishment for Fulton County?

False authority fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

So, you need, or at least want, a list of all of the names of every government employee who was involved in auditing, researching, etc. Why?

You are using a false authority. That's a fallacy, moron.

 

[Into the Night]

What does that mean, exactly? What are the real-world implications?

All states, including AZ where I live, have strict protocol on securely storing, updating and testing voting equipment before elections to ensure they are working correctly. AZ did a hand-count of ballots, as part of the Cyber Ninjas audit, and the hand-count matched the results of the machine count.

The protocol was not followed, moron.

 

[ZenMode]

how about 2 names?

When there is an investigation by the FBI or, in this case, GBI or any state investigators, when do you ever hear names of actual investigators released?

So, in the case of Georgia:

The investigation, which included Secretary of State Investigators, and Special Agents with both GBI and FBI revealed “there was no evidence of any type of fraud as alleged.” Through the course of the investigation, “three law enforcement agencies reviewed the entire unedited video footage of the events in question.......

What would having names change?