Same-sex couples begin marrying

My Aunt Hoe Afaik doesn't get along with Aunt Ishtar and Aunt Easther.

btw...dumbfuck, you're not the only one that uses movies as if they're real life. Several of your cronies do it on here. We've mentioned it before.
 
Then why did the queers only recently want to be married? Marriage has been around for thousands of years and queers weren't clamoring for it.

Why do queers want to marry?

It was not so long ago (in my lifetime) that gays would be arrested for having sex and be beaten upjust for being gay.

I think when its about survival, the idea of weddings isn't very important.
 
It was not so long ago (in my lifetime) that gays would be arrested for having sex and be beaten upjust for being gay.

I think when its about survival, the idea of weddings isn't very important.

So they aren't getting beat up anymore? That's good. Assault is a horrible thing even against deviant queers.

So will the queers finally shut the fuck up if they are allowed to marry?
 
Of course it is an "appeal to tradition". There has been research on kids raised by straight couples, gay couples, and single parents. I have posted this research in numerous debates with you. It consistently showed there being no difference in the way the kids turn out.

And try to stick to the topic. Trying to divert it by dragging up old debates is laughable.

which is closer to the truth, tradition or science

traditionally, the world is flat and the sun revolves around the earth...
 
It was not so long ago (in my lifetime) that gays would be arrested for having sex and be beaten upjust for being gay.

I think when its about survival, the idea of weddings isn't very important.

while survival is important, same sex marriage is attached to survival and perhaps even more important because it moves homosexuals into the mainstream more quickly

the younger generation is mostly ready for it, it is the homophobic portion of the older generations that homosexuals have to fear

yet, the older generation tends to be more respectful of the law that the younger generation

so the sooner homosexuals (LGBTs in general) come further under the umbrella of the law the better

my wife and i have two lesbians as tenants and never gave it a second thought, they were worried that it would bother us

in fact, we are more accepting of them than one of their families (bummer)
 
And that shows nothing about having gay parents being bad for their kids.

I heard an interview on a Christian station from an anonymous caller about how much anger he had, and suicidal thoughts he had because of his Gay parents. This is still going on well into his adult life.
 
That isn't "Appeal to Tradition"?

Besides, that does not address whether or not gay parents are less desireable as far as the children are concerned.

Two parents of the same sex is un friggin natural it goes against nature, Kids need a father and mother to nurture them. not two men, or two women, even if one does act like the man and the other the woman.
 
I heard an interview on a Christian station from an anonymous caller about how much anger he had, and suicidal thoughts he had because of his Gay parents. This is still going on well into his adult life.

how about the possibility that they were bad parents, not because they were gay, but because they did not know how to parent.

also, one caller does not a trend make
 
how about the possibility that they were bad parents, not because they were gay, but because they did not know how to parent.

also, one caller does not a trend make

How about the possibility that he had to observe his parents abnormal, immoral and unnatural behavior his entire childhood. Isn't it possible that this is a likely contributor to the guy growing up to be unstable?
 
I heard an interview on a Christian station from an anonymous caller about how much anger he had, and suicidal thoughts he had because of his Gay parents. This is still going on well into his adult life.

WHAT A FUCKING CROCK OF SHIT!!!!!!!!

Did you recognize your son's voice and tell him you and the dick on the other side of the glory hole were sorry?
 
I've stated what Philly has said before. We can try to keep it a state matter, and hopefully scotus wont crap on it. Its only furthering the coruption of America, and its a large victory at that. I sat down with my family the other day and my cousin put on a movie.

My Idiot Brother, about a pot selling organic farm hippie with a cheating lesbian sister and a propensity to get into gay situations . . . ::facepalm:: my poor mother who is significantly more progressive than I had to leave the house, and needless to say I was appalled.

My point is they've been using media to alter our society's mores for a long time now, at least since those rated R 'rape' films of yesteryear.

Exposure begets tolerance, even acceptance.

This is where social conservatives attack the free market and sound like a bunch of nuts with their McCarthyist nonsense.

Most people make movies to turn a profit. Film makers respond to what the market wants and are far more affected by the demands of the consumers than consumers are affected by the producers. "Our Idiot Brother" is obviously not a movie that is supposed to inspire deep thoughts or change hearts. It was intended to get you to buy a ticket or rent the movie. It's not a part of some Marxist plot, but go ahead and wall yourself off from it an other influences.
 
I heard an interview on a Christian station from an anonymous caller about how much anger he had, and suicidal thoughts he had because of his Gay parents. This is still going on well into his adult life.

Are you really that naive and gullible?
 
So the progession of movies and media towards this was never skewed towards pushing a certain stereotype?

Girls in the 1920s were never tied up?
Blacks in the 40s were never cooks or chefs or comedic relief?
The rape movies of the 60s were there because the audiences demanded them?
Blacks always died first in 80s, 90s horror because we as Americans wanted it?
And now we watch polyamoreous sex because we want it?

Get a clue, Du.
 
Two parents of the same sex is un friggin natural it goes against nature, Kids need a father and mother to nurture them. not two men, or two women, even if one does act like the man and the other the woman.

My gay friends children are all very well adjusted. They were raised in homes full of love. It is all children need. Now I know a lot of children raised in hetrosexual households who are completely screwed up because of their parents drinking, fighting and abuse, having a mother and a father isn't always a perfect situation.
 
My gay friends children are all very well adjusted. They were raised in homes full of love. It is all children need. Now I know a lot of children raised in hetrosexual households who are completely screwed up because of their parents drinking, fighting and abuse, having a mother and a father isn't always a perfect situation.

I know people who were raised by a man and woman who were homophobic.... They are FUCKED UP!
 
So the progession of movies and media towards this was never skewed towards pushing a certain stereotype?

Girls in the 1920s were never tied up?
Blacks in the 40s were never cooks or chefs or comedic relief?
The rape movies of the 60s were there because the audiences demanded them?
Blacks always died first in 80s, 90s horror because we as Americans wanted it?
And now we watch polyamoreous sex because we want it?

Get a clue, Du.

Bunch of strawman nonsense.

Entertainment of various forms is a business. Of course, many artists intend to inspire different ideas. But many just seek to exploit the ideas that are already present in the public sphere. "Our Idiot Brother" is obviously not a movie with a high degree of artistic integrity (it does not sound as if the other movies you vaguely allude to are either). If you were talking about "Brokeback Mountian" or something then maybe you would have some sort of point. Instead you sound like a complete moron. I can barely remember "Our Idiot Brother." It was forgettable in every way.

You guys are losing because your ideas are stupid and your morality is flawed. It's not because of the Devil's black magic or some Marxist plot has made for an unfair debate.
 
So, my debate is stupid because the original example I used was a forgettable attempt to push several lines?

Forgettable or not, it was there. You may love to dismiss things as moot and done, but it was there and it stands as the perfect example of my point.

You want to dicuss media values, let's. But you're fooling nobody. It gots nothing to do with 'art'.
 
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