Yes, TFF
Shrubbie and Maineman
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Yes, TFF
You are the Yoda of well deserved insults my dear.
maineman
Banned
you might remember him as Alpha or Bravo.
Cancel 2016.11
Darla
Or Fuckwit!
maineman
Banned
stating an opinion is not a lie. claiming something is an absolute fact when it is not, IS a lie. sorry.
maineman
Banned
you're right. And shame on them. Thank goodness they were in the minority of democrats in congress.
Some might remember you as retiredman and manfrommaine.
LOL, yet one of them is widely touted as your candidate in 2016.
Yeah, or Numb nuts, or any derogatory term that comes to mind.
By the way Beefy, since the name change policy was instituted, if you go to the member's homepage there is a user name history.
Grind and Billy are easy, Grind's location in the top right statistics corner of any post is the internet, and Billy's is Detroit.
Taft2016
Verified User
Again, hearing things that were never said...
I love stay at home moms. My mom was a stay at home mom.
She had 5 kids, and we basically all grew up well below the poverty line. My dad was just a laborer. He was 65 the last year he worked, and that was the only year he ever broke an annual salary of $20,000. We were eligible for all kinds of public assistance, but we never accepted any. Instead, we were all taught to live within our means. Not be wasteful. Not be extravagant.
We didn't sit around having tantrums demanding the government stick its hands in others' pockets and give us something. As a result, we all worked our ways through college with full time jobs, and all 5 of us have at least a Bachelor's degree.
tekkychick
New member
This really is a classic beautiful slam by Desh/Evince. Love it!
evince
Truthmatters
So true! Most of those who support big government are those who need it, or those who don't have to worry about how much it costs.
tekkychick
New member
Yes, those rich folks trolling for another tax cut... writing off their planes and yachts as business expenses... going for tax shelters... they sure do support big govt - when it helps them.
RETARD ALERT!
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/09/who-are-47/56965/
Everyone is still trying to make sense (or in the Democrats' case, make hay with) Mitt Romney's disparging remarks about "the 47 percent," but where did he come with that number and why are these people not paying income taxes?
While Romney's statement is technically true, and widely used conservative talking point, it's highly misleading and hardly the justifies the critique that these tax shirkers "should take personal responsibility and care for their lives." Even conservative pundit Ramesh Ponnuru said that the argument was "an intellectual and political dead end." The two main problems with Romney's statement are that many of the people in that 47 percent aren't actually living off government handouts — and they don't all vote Democratic either. Economics writers all over the internet broke out the chart machines to debunk these two claims. Here's the basics:
For starters, as you probably know, the 47 percent only applies to federal income taxes: Not the numerous other taxes that people have to pay. For example, 28 percent of Americans don't pay income tax, but they do contribute payroll taxes, which is what funds the two biggest entitlement programs, Medicare and Social Security. However, they either make next to nothing in wages or they qualify for enough credits (dependent exemptions; mortgage, tuition or student loan deductions, etc) to wipe out their tax bill. A family of four that makes less than $30,000 a year can easily erase their tax liability though standard deductions. These people have jobs and may or may not receive any government assistance at all. This popular chart from the Tax Policy Center is where the 47 percent figure originates, but it shows how the numbers break down:
So that leaves 18 percent of people who do not work at all, or make so little that they don't even pay payroll taxes. More than half of that group (10 percent of people) are retired and elderly people. They live off pensions or Social Security benefits, which are not taxed. But they spent a lifetime paying into those funds and no one would call them irresponsible. Not even Mitt Romney wants to axe Social Security.
So that means that of the Americans who don't pay income taxes, 83 percent either have a job or are retired. The rest — less then 10 percent of the total population — are probably unemployed (though even unemployment benefits are taxed); are too poor to pay taxes, or simply didn't file a return. Some of them are even be rich people who found ways to avoid having any liability, although that's a very small number of Americans. Plus, depending on where they live, most people pay some form of state and local income taxes, property taxes, sales taxes, or other government fees. When you total those up and compare by income group, we all come out paying about as much in taxes as our share of income:
(One other point about payroll taxes too: If you do pay them, that's 15.3% of your income (half paid by your employer, the other half by you) or about 1.5 percent more than Mitt Romney paid in taxes in 2011.)
tekkychick
New member
Excellent, Rune. Thanks
Tekkygal cheers from the sidelines again. Shake those pom-poms.
Gimme an "R", gimme a "U", gimme an "N", gimme an "E"!