Some questions for our leftist friends at JPP.

Robo said:
The 10th Amendment doesn’t authorize the States to violate constitutional law!
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In order for your plan to allow out-of-state insurance plans to be sold in state-regulated markets, you'd need a federal rule that overrules state market regulations.

That is inherently anti-10th Amendment.
 
LV426 said:
Well, I wish you the best of luck until you reach Medicare eligibility. It's very risky to do what you're doing, so I must give you credit for that.

If a single payer system were to be implemented tomorrow, and you're retired so you're not drawing a paycheck that can impose the payroll tax, then you'd end up spending virtually nothing to get health care.

Is that better than spending however much you spend now?
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Of course! Single Payer is just another leftist socialist income redistribution program, i.e. the buying of the peon's vote!!!

"Capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings, socialism is the equal sharing of the misery." (Sr. Winston Churchill)
 
Robo said:
Well friend I never had any doubt that sooner or later you’d stoop to the juvenile insults in keeping with your true leftist tradition. I thank you good buddy for your never-ending evidence of your childish sandbox nature and your mother’s upbringing!!!
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Something in your story isn't quite right;

You said that the ACA caused you to pay copays and deductibles in your insurance plan, but the insurance plan you have is Medicare, and you've been on it longer than the ACA has been around. You then said you and your employer have some kind of arrangement where they pay for your health care, even though you're retired and haven't worked for that company for a while. But Medicare isn't some kind of arrangement you and your employer make.

So something is fishy in this story of yours.
 
LV426 said:
You might think your doctors are very good, but what's your frame of reference?

I think everyone thinks their doctor is the best, but without the ability to choose whichever doctor you want, how do you know that your doctor is the best for sure????

You don't know if your doctor is actually the best for you because of the limitations of your provider network tied to your insurance coverage.

There could be a better doctor out there for you, you just don't know it because you don't have the option to choose any doctor you want.
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I just had surgery over a month ago, the surgeon is one of the best in his field. He caught problems that could have led to me losing my leg. I'd say I'm lucky.
 
LV426 said:
When you screeched about getting government out of health care.

Wow.

Are you senile?
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But of course there's that UNCONSTITUTIONAL meddling of the feds and the authorized powers granted to the feds by the Constitution. Worry not, I never expect the left to know or care about the difference!!!
 
Robo said:
Of course! Single Payer is just another leftist socialist income redistribution program, i.e. the buying of the peon's vote!
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But in the example I just gave, RB60 is retired by his own admission.

So in a single payer system, he would pay virtually nothing for health care which is better than paying whatever he pays now, right?
 
RB 60 said:
I just had surgery over a month ago, the surgeon is one of the best in his field. He caught problems that could have led to me losing my leg. I'd say I'm lucky.
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That is lucky...but is "luck" really the best thing to rely on when it comes to your health?
 
Robo said:
But of course there's that UNCONSTITUTIONAL meddling of the feds and the authorized powers granted to the feds by the Constitution. Worry not, I never expect the left to know or care about the difference!!!
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Well, then why do you use Medicare if you're fundamentally opposed to it? You're not paying for your Medicare; working people are.
 
LV426 said:
That is lucky...but is "luck" really the best thing to rely on when it comes to your health?
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Like I said, I have good Doctors. The medical center's plans have a number of Dr's to choose from, it is a large network.
 
LV426 said:
Something in your story isn't quite right;

You said that the ACA caused you to pay copays and deductibles in your insurance plan, but the insurance plan you have is Medicare, and you've been on it longer than the ACA has been around. You then said you and your employer have some kind of arrangement where they pay for your health care, even though you're retired and haven't worked for that company for a while. But Medicare isn't some kind of arrangement you and your employer make.

So something is fishy in this story of yours.
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I never paid a co-pay for my care, BECAUSE I have an ADVANTAGE program where my employer covered all cost not provided by Medicare. I never paid a dime out of my pocket except for being responsible for a 2000.00 deductible only for major surgery, before I had Medicare and never had to pay because I had no major surgery before I had Medicare. Now I have a deductible in the thousands I must meet with my-co-pays every year before I can eliminate my co-pay and I never get to that point. Thank God! All of that came about since Obamacare.
 
RB 60 said:
Like I said, I have good Doctors. The medical center's plans have a number of Dr's to choose from, it is a large network.
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But only accessible with certain insurance plans...which is the problem. So while you have the choice of these good doctors, others do not.
 
Robo said:
I never paid a co-pay for my care, BECAUSE I have an ADVANTAGE program where my employer covered all cost not provided by Medicare
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I've never heard of an employer paying for someone's medicare advantage plan after they're not employed by that company; that's what sounds fishy here.
 
LV426 said:
Well, then why do you use Medicare if you're fundamentally opposed to it? You're not paying for your Medicare; working people are.
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Because I'm FORCED to pay into Medicare! My Mother didn't raise any fools! Why would I want the feds to keep the loot and waste it?
 
LV426 said:
I've never heard of an employer paying for someone's medicare advantage plan after they're not employed by that company; that's what sounds fishy here.
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Well friend I think there's way more than that, that you never heard of!
 
Robo said:
I never paid a dime out of my pocket except for being responsible for a 2000.00 deductible only for major surgery, before I had Medicare and never had to pay because I had no major surgery before I had Medicare.
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No, you did pay out of pocket, you just got reimbursed. Or so you say.


Robo said:
Now I have a deductible in the thousands I must meet with my-co-pays every year before I can eliminate my co-pay and I never get to that point. Thank God! All of that came about since Obamacare.
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Obamacare did not have any substantial effect on MA plans.
https://medicare.com/medicare-advantage/obamacare-and-medicare-advantage-what-you-need-to-know/

What Obamacare did was change reimbursements to focus on outcome-based treatment.
 
Robo said:
Because I'm FORCED to pay into Medicare!
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No you're not.

You've chosen Medicare, but you can easily not choose it.

You'll just have a hard time finding an affordable plan because no insurer in the world is gonna cut an 83-year old a deal.


Robo said:
My Mother didn't raise any fools! Why would I want the feds to keep the loot and waste it?
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They're not keeping the loot, they're spending it to provide care.
 
LV426 said:
But only accessible with certain insurance plans...which is the problem. So while you have the choice of these good doctors, others do not.
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Why don't they? They can go through the exchange and get a plan through them too. I looked into every option I had before I chose what I have. Other than a solid income, healthcare was very important when I decided to retire early. I started planning for this at 50.
 
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