Lao Tse
Verified User
Yes. Have you?
Surprise! Massachusetts pushes for spanking ban
- Thread starter TheDanold
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Yes. Have you?
Really you mean “most seniors” believe their generation was “better” than the generations which followed?
Holy shit, you have totally cracked the case now Dano! Everyone else has just been blown away by the “evidence” that one group of people believes they’re better than another group of people! That never happens.
It’s over, Dano has proved his case once again! Victory for Dano!
Yes and you can also correlate that since the prohibition has been abolished children have become more violent.
Also since the automobile industry has been on the rise, children have become more violent.
I could go on. Like I said, you're not helping.
Teenage violence is definitely greater today than it once was. Is there a correlation between that and fewer parents using corporal punishment. I can't say
That's a testable hypothesis.
Most western european countries have a ban on corporeal punishment of children. I'd be willing to wager that Sweden, Denmark, and Netherlands have lower incidents of teen violence, than the United States.
In short, any upswing in teen violence here, is probably correlated to less parental supervision, compared to decades past. These days, most families have both parent working outside the home, and we have very stingy and inadequate benefits and laws that promote family stability. In europe, the State makes sure the family unit is honored, by having generous paid leave, maternal leave, day care, healthcare, and other tools that allow family's to have more adequate time and supervision of children.
LMAO. At least I'm consistent. I'm pro scrambling kids brains and beating them when they get older! Not to mention my WOC.
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The Almighty
What I ACTUALLY wrote.....
"I think it is more of a personal experience thing than a single/married with kids thing. I would venture to guess that those of us who do not have a problem with it never had a parent or teacher/principal take things too far. I am not saying that all those opposed to spankings were abused, but I would bet that most who are ok with it were not abused.
As mentioned it is a subjective grey area as to where the line is between discipline and abuse. Personal experience will be a part of where each of us draws the line."
TheDanold
Unimatrix
They see violence and shootings in schools and using common sense remember that such things did not happen when they went to school and they ask themselves what has changed?
Number one thing they think of is that there is no more discipline with kids in school anymore and less discipline in society in general.
You can sit there and ridicule an entire generation or you can get your fucking head out of your ass and use some damn common sense for the first time in your life.
I can buy that.
TheDanold
Unimatrix
You could accomplish the same thing with less government and less taxes. Let's not forget why 2 parents work in the first place, because of economic need.
"If politicians were serious about day care for children, instead of just sloganizing about it, nothing they could do would improve the quality of child care more than by lifting the heavy burden of taxation that forces so many families to have both parents working." – Thomas Sowell
In Europe they have so much taxation for those lovely programs you mentioned above and high cost of living that the birth rate is incredibly low and they are facing declines in their population. It's a terrible model.
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The Almighty
LMAO. At least I'm consistent. I'm pro scrambling kids brains and beating them when they get older! Not to mention my WOC.
Yeah, but you lead the war on children, so we expect you to maintain your violent ways.
I find it amazing that some people, who would never dream of beating their cat or dog to "discipline" it, would consider beating their children. LOL.
But, knowing you Tiana, beating cats just might be right up your alley.
The idea that disciplining a child is no different than disciplining an adult is stupid. Is anyone advancing this idiotic idea also opposed to compulsory school attendance? How come the state can make children attend school but can not force you to show up for work/school?
What sort of discipline can you give your child by this standard? One cannot make an adult go to his room or take a timeout. About the only thing you can do to an adult is tell them to leave your property or call the police. Are parents expected to either abandon their children or call the cops next time Timmy throws a fit in the grocery store?
All laws are backed by force (proper laws retalitory force) or the threat of force. If it is wrong to spank your child or forcefully restrain him for hitting his sister, then by what standard can it be right for the state to use force to punish you for this wrong?
Further, if we are going to pretend that children are equivalent to adults, then say bye to all laws treating them differently. Timmy and Tammy can go boozed up and have sex with whomever they choose.
Children do not fully enjoy the rights of adults. They also do not have the responsibilities or capacity to contract. They're parents are legally responsible for them. If they blow up the neighbors car, their parents are liable. For the state to hold the parents responsible while denying them the ability to discipline is obscene.
What sort of discipline can you give your child by this standard? One cannot make an adult go to his room or take a timeout. About the only thing you can do to an adult is tell them to leave your property or call the police. Are parents expected to either abandon their children or call the cops next time Timmy throws a fit in the grocery store?
All laws are backed by force (proper laws retalitory force) or the threat of force. If it is wrong to spank your child or forcefully restrain him for hitting his sister, then by what standard can it be right for the state to use force to punish you for this wrong?
Further, if we are going to pretend that children are equivalent to adults, then say bye to all laws treating them differently. Timmy and Tammy can go boozed up and have sex with whomever they choose.
Children do not fully enjoy the rights of adults. They also do not have the responsibilities or capacity to contract. They're parents are legally responsible for them. If they blow up the neighbors car, their parents are liable. For the state to hold the parents responsible while denying them the ability to discipline is obscene.
I find it amazing that some people, who would never dream of beating their cat or dog to "discipline" it, would consider beating their children. LOL.
But, knowing you Tiana, beating cats just might be right up your alley.
I've actually created a new game that mixes kickball with cats. Its super fun.
Blackflag
Junior Member
True but then there are some like me that are against both and also against capital punishment.
uscitizen
Villified User
Yep I am back. And I have permission to and will when needed spank the grandchildren.
uscitizen
Villified User
Capital punishment and spanking are related ?????
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The Almighty
Now THAT sounds like a grand ole time
I don't see how you can support any law whatsoever. What's the law supposed to do when you abort your child? Tell you to take a timeout? Go to your room? And if you say no?
Water, though, he probably thinks it would great if cops were called in to taser kids for throwing a fit. Better than shooting them, I guess. Then we can put em in lock down 24/7 until they learn to follow some trivial rule.
It's bad to spank, unless you are Water's fascist state.
TheDanold
Unimatrix
Very well said.