Teacher's neck broken over iPod...

uscitizen said:
One fact of the matter on homeschooling. Homeschooling does cover up child abuse of various types....
Darn brats going to school and telling on AHZ for porkin em anyway !
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Was AHZ a teacher??? Never mind check with the regular teachers on this board...seems to be alot of em' are in the news as of late...for child abuse!
 
It's another topic for another time -- I haven't time or energy to hijack anything today -- but personally, I'm deeply distrustful of homeschooling. Not that a lot of homeschooled kids aren't doing very well, but the lack of accountability is disturbing.

This may seem strange given my stated disinterest in cultural homogeneity but I do believe that a lot of parents who take up homeschooling do so for very bad reasons.

Not me and that's all that matters.
 
Well, I always visualize homeschoolers like alec from our old board. WTF right does that woman have to be homeschooling anybody? A high school dropout who can't even compile a coherent post?

And the fact that someone like that can homeschool, turns me off to it right away. Obviously they have absolutely no standards.

Many homeschoolers are highly educated and intelligent like my wife and I.
 
One fact of the matter on homeschooling. Homeschooling does cover up child abuse of various types....
Darn brats going to school and telling on AHZ for porkin em anyway !

A child is more likely to face abuse in school than in the home.
 
Darla said:
Well, I always visualize homeschoolers like alec from our old board. WTF right does that woman have to be homeschooling anybody? A high school dropout who can't even compile a coherent post?

And the fact that someone like that can homeschool, turns me off to it right away. Obviously they have absolutely no standards.
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Funny, but she's one of the first I always think of when anyone says "homeschool." Imagine that. :)
 
IHateGovernment said:
One fact of the matter on homeschooling. Homeschooling does cover up child abuse of various types....
Darn brats going to school and telling on AHZ for porkin em anyway !

A child is more likely to face abuse in school than in the home.
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Statistically, this is definitely not true. Not unless you're using a different definition of "abuse" than the legal one. Which might be okay: I do so myself.

Unfortunately, my definition ends up making homeschool look like an even more risky proposition. :shock:
 
Statistically, this is definitely not true. Not unless you're using a different definition of "abuse" than the legal one. Which might be okay: I do so myself.

That includes psychological abuse.

Unfortunately, my definition ends up making homeschool look like an even more risky proposition.

Why is it risky for me to choose to homeschool my children. I know fully well they will not be abused. In school it is a gamble.
 
IHateGovernment said:
Statistically, this is definitely not true. Not unless you're using a different definition of "abuse" than the legal one. Which might be okay: I do so myself.

That includes psychological abuse.

Unfortunately, my definition ends up making homeschool look like an even more risky proposition.

Why is it risky for me to choose to homeschool my children. I know fully well they will not be abused. In school it is a gamble.
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No offense, but few parents ever believe that they're abusing their children, even when they are. It's that road paved with good intentions again.

I'm not talking about any particular individual but the spread of homeschooling in general. As I say, it's the lack of standards and accountability that bother me.
 
LadyT said:
Well, I wouldn't suspend someone for talking, but I do know a lot of those underperforming schools have children that are smart and have high aptitudes to learn, however, their environment is not conducive to learning. That's why my cousin in DC homeschooled her kids and a lot of other inner city parents send their children to private school. And that's really not fair to them.
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Yes, I realize that I am very strict and the discipline I use wouldn't fly in most school systems. My point is that the kids are going to behave the way I want them to behave or they won't be here.

You are correct about those underperforming schools. Most students cannot fulfil their potential in a chaotic environment.
 
OrnotBitwise said:
No offense, but few parents ever believe that they're abusing their children, even when they are. It's that road paved with good intentions again.

I'm not talking about any particular individual but the spread of homeschooling in general. As I say, it's the lack of standards and accountability that bother me.
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No standards, no accountability and that's not good. Homeschooling isn't the answer for most kids. Notice Ihate, I say most. In our area there are very few who homeschool and many do so for what I consider to be all the wrong reasons. We don't like that teacher, that principal disciplined my child, so and so's kid is in my child's class and I don't like them, etc. While some kids get an adequate education being homeschooled here, most do not. When we get kids who are homeschooled here, most are behind, few are on par, and the others are strong in the areas their parent's are strong in and weak in the areas their parents are weak in. Homeschooling isn't the answer here. It may be in some parts of the country and like I said it works well for some folks but it isn't good here.
 
leaningright said:
Yes, I realize that I am very strict and the discipline I use wouldn't fly in most school systems. My point is that the kids are going to behave the way I want them to behave or they won't be here.

You are correct about those underperforming schools. Most students cannot fulfil their potential in a chaotic environment.
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You teach in a private school Im assuming?
 
LadyT said:
You can kick kids out for talking?
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They did it to us when I was a kid. I can't comprehend why teachers couldn't do that now. We cannot allow one mouth to render everybody's education at the very least difficult, if not impossible.
 
leaningright said:
No standards, no accountability and that's not good. Homeschooling isn't the answer for most kids. Notice Ihate, I say most. In our area there are very few who homeschool and many do so for what I consider to be all the wrong reasons. We don't like that teacher, that principal disciplined my child, so and so's kid is in my child's class and I don't like them, etc. While some kids get an adequate education being homeschooled here, most do not. When we get kids who are homeschooled here, most are behind, few are on par, and the others are strong in the areas their parent's are strong in and weak in the areas their parents are weak in. Homeschooling isn't the answer here. It may be in some parts of the country and like I said it works well for some folks but it isn't good here.
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It's tough to regulate though: I'll grant that. If you allow one set of parents to school their children at home, how do you say no to others? I've no desire to stamp out homeschooling but I don't want it spreading too far either.

I don't claim to have the answer.
 
Damocles said:
They did it to us when I was a kid. I can't comprehend why teachers couldn't do that now. We cannot allow one mouth to render everybody's education at the very least difficult, if not impossible.
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This is what leaning said:
"If they do talk they are sent out of the room. First time = swats, Second time = suspension."

i'm not referring to kids going to the principals office or even being kicked out of that particular class. Are you saying that you got suspended for being caught talking twice?

Also leaning, are you guys allowed to swat students in public schools where you are?
 
OrnotBitwise said:
It's tough to regulate though: I'll grant that. If you allow one set of parents to school their children at home, how do you say no to others? I've no desire to stamp out homeschooling but I don't want it spreading too far either.

I don't claim to have the answer.
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I like the options that are available here. Instead of relying solely on the parent for home schooling, a parent has the option to use the curricula of a public school on the internet. Assignments and grading take place under a teacher, the schoolwork is done under the watchful eye of a parent, and extra assignments can be worked either from the parent or with the cooperation of the teacher.

Most of the HS students using this method take courses in college while still in HS. One can actually graduate HS at the same time as getting an Associates Degree.
 
Damocles said:
I like the options that are available here. Instead of relying solely on the parent for home schooling, a parent has the option to use the curricula of a public school on the internet. Assignments and grading take place under a teacher, the schoolwork is done under the watchful eye of a parent, and extra assignments can be worked either from the parent or with the cooperation of the teacher.
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I like that idea to point where I think I'm inclined to say htat it should be compulsary.
 
LadyT said:
I like that idea to point where I think I'm inclined to say htat it should be compulsary.
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I don't. In almost every case of homeschooling where the public system isn't involved I have met children far excelling their peers.
 
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