The Jesus story destroyed using the christian bible

[Ross Dolan]

I can truthfully say, with all confidence, that there is a God.

You cannot "truthfully" say that...but I understand you are a captive of your blind guess that there is a God...and that you know its nature...and know what pleases it and what offends it.

If it brings you comfort...great.

I'll stick with "I do not know and do not want to make a guess."

 

[Fentoine Lum]

I can truthfully say, with all confidence, that there is a God.

You can say anything at all, utterly meaningless, look at your president.

 

[Fentoine Lum]

People believe in God because of evidence. There is no guessing involved.

They were beaten and murdered into submission, see the The Inquisition. The tribes of Europe were slaughtered into submission to the male dominator "God" chain of command, took hundreds of years and generations to subdue the tribes of Europe. Once the descendants of the tribes of Europe landed in the Americas to subjugate the peoples of the Americas and wage a war for "possession of the souls of the savage heathens", they no longer knew what it meant to be a human being and/or spiritual beings. The perversion of turning a spiritual perception of reality into a religious perception of reality was the point all along.

 

[Grugore]

You cannot "truthfully" say that...but I understand you are a captive of your blind guess that there is a God...and that you know its nature...and know what pleases it and what offends it.

If it brings you comfort...great.

I'll stick with "I do not know and do not want to make a guess."

You can deny the truth all you like. Doesn't change anything. You will die. You will stand before your Creator and be judged. Nothing will change that. There will be no excuses on Judgment Day.

 

[Nomad]

If you think it is okay to call blind guesses "beliefs"...and then ask that those blind guesses be given special respect because they are called "beliefs"...fine with me.

I think that is destructive to reasonable discussion on the issue.

We simply disagree on this.

I think everybody's right to hold whichever religious beliefs they want to, should be given a reasonable level of basic respect.

I fail to see where using the word "beliefs" has any bearing on anything.

It's just a word.

 

[Fentoine Lum]

You can deny the truth all you like. Doesn't change anything. You will die. You will stand before your Creator and be judged. Nothing will change that. There will be no excuses on Judgment Day.

You will have nothing to do with any of it, and have no idea whether that's how it goes down or not. At all. You simply choose to believe what you like. And that's fine, for you. That is NOT yours to put on others. You are not God son, again, this has always been the problem with seeing the creator in human form.

Here's what you know: You will die. Nothing will change that.

 

[Ross Dolan]

You can deny the truth all you like. Doesn't change anything. You will die. You will stand before your Creator and be judged. Nothing will change that. There will be no excuses on Judgment Day.

I understand the blind guesses you have made that leads you to a post such as this one I quoted.

You MAY be right.

The GOD you suppose MAY exist...and all the shit you suppose MAY happen.

You MAY be wrong.

I understand your devotion to that blind guess...and if it brings you comfort...great. I'm on your side.

That is the way it goes with blind guesses, Grugore. Some are right and some are wrong. There are people like you blindly guessing that god of yours exists...and other people blindly guessing that no gods exist.

Either side MAY be correct.

I'd just as soon not guess.

 

[Ross Dolan]

I think everybody's right to hold whichever religious beliefs they want to, should be given a reasonable level of basic respect.

I fail to see where using the word "beliefs" has any bearing on anything.

It's just a word.

I understand that you fail to see it.

So?

 

[Grugore]

I understand the blind guesses you have made that leads you to a post such as this one I quoted.

You MAY be right.

The GOD you suppose MAY exist...and all the shit you suppose MAY happen.

You MAY be wrong.

I understand your devotion to that blind guess...and if it brings you comfort...great. I'm on your side.

That is the way it goes with blind guesses, Grugore. Some are right and some are wrong. There are people like you blindly guessing that god of yours exists...and other people blindly guessing that no gods exist.

Either side MAY be correct.

I'd just as soon not guess.

Once again, I'm not guessing. God is real, the evidence is overwhelming, yet you still refuse to accept it. The evidence is there, but most people reject it out of sinful pride.

 

[Fentoine Lum]

Once again, I'm not guessing. God is real, the evidence is overwhelming, yet you still refuse to accept it. The evidence is there, but most people reject it out of sinful pride.

Faith is the purposeful suspension of critical thought.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Once again, I'm not guessing.

YES...you are guessing. And for the most part, relying on the blind guesses of superstitious ancient Hebrews for your blind guesses.

God is real,

There may be a GOD...there may be many gods.

We really do not know. I understand your blind guess that there is a GOD...and that it is the particular god that the ancient Hebrews blindly guessed existed.

the evidence is overwhelming,

The "evidence" is underwhelming.

There may be a god...there may be no gods.

The "evidence" such as exists...simply does not point in either direction.

yet you still refuse to accept it.

I refuse to make a blind guess. Not sure why that bothers you so.

The evidence is there, but most people reject it out of sinful pride.

There is no "evidence" that points to any god...and certainly none that point to the god you suppose exists.

People like you blindly guess it is so...and refuse to acknowledge it is a guess out of "pride" and stubbornness.

 

[Controlled Opposition]

You can deny the truth all you like. Doesn't change anything. You will die. You will stand before your Creator and be judged. Nothing will change that. There will be no excuses on Judgment Day.

Why wait to be judged? An all knowing god wouldn't have to keep a ledger, knowing everything you were going to do before you did it.

 

[Fentoine Lum]

Why wait to be judged? An all knowing god wouldn't have to keep a ledger, knowing everything you were going to do before you did it.

Oh that's what the stoning and labeling and "non'believer" shunning are for. Sometimes "God" needs real time assistance from the "Godly".

 

[Guno צְבִי]

I think everybody's right to hold whichever religious beliefs they want to, should be given a reasonable level of basic respect.

I fail to see where using the word "beliefs" has any bearing on anything.

It's just a word.

 

[Fentoine Lum]

There it is.

 

[Mason Michaels]

No, but like everyone else, I can feel it and see it bending trees and limbs, so I know it's there.

Same thing with God,you can see the reaction,suggest as the Holocaust,Israel becoming a nation again,Jerusalem becoming under Jewish Control.

 

[Fentoine Lum]

Same thing with God,you can see the reaction,suggest as the Holocaust,Israel becoming a nation again,Jerusalem becoming under Jewish Control.

And the slaughtered becoming the slaughterers.

 

[Ross Dolan]

One of the reasons I suggest we change from "belief" to "blind guess" (other than because it more accurately and truthfully depicts what is being said)...is that very few people would argue for giving "respect" to someone's blind guesses.

They simply are blind guesses...and nothing more.

They deserve the kind of respect one should have for a blind guess.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Some say his description is consistent with an epileptic seizure

would those be the same medical experts who thought a woman with eight sons was a virgin?.....

 

[PostmodernProphet]

When mental illnesses and delusions are used to drive national policy it is very pertinent

not to worry......nobody actually takes you seriously........