The only thing that stops a bad child with a gun is a good child with a gun!

I should have asked whether any mass shootings were stopped by armed private citizens. My mistake that the assumption would be clear.

Aside from the 2 I mentioned before, there's also one, awhile ago in TX and the armed citizen was killed while doing so. And a school principle who went out to his car, got his gun, and stopped a school shooter. I'd have to look for a link for that. So that's 4 off the top of my head.
 
Aside from the 2 I mentioned before, there's also one, awhile ago in TX and the armed citizen was killed while doing so. And a school principle who went out to his car, got his gun, and stopped a school shooter. I'd have to look for a link for that. So that's 4 off the top of my head.

Actually there are more. I was asking so that whomever would look them up. Thanks though, I wasn't aware of the TX one.
 
He lived in Arizona a state that has some of the most lax gun laws in the nation. In fact the Brady Campaign gives Arizona a 0 score and ranks them 49th in lax gun laws with Utah where teachers carry guns in classrooms ranking 50th! So there were no gun laws and with no restrictions how could Laughner have been prevented from getting a gun?

http://www.bradycampaign.me/sites/default/files/2011_Brady_Campaign_State_Scorecard_Rankings.pdf

If you get your information from the Brady campaign of disinformation, you just might be a low information voter.

Perhaps you should educate yourself on the laws of the state before making such uniformed claims. This case is again evidence that the laws do not prevent whackos from obtaining weapons. In the Newtown case, the kid was under age and could not obtain a weapon through a purchase, which is why he stole the weapons and used them to murder his mom who was the legal owner of the weapons.

The notion that criminals obey laws can only be expressed by the mentally challenged. The argument that more laws will prevent these crimes is the epitome of ignorance.

Evidence is mounting that Arizona shooting suspect Jared Loughner was mentally unstable – and yet he was still allowed to purchase a gun legally.

The federal Gun Control Act of 1968 prohibits the possession of firearms by the mentally ill. So why was Mr. Loughner able to guy a gun?

The ability to own a firearm is a constitutionally protected right, and depriving someone of that right involves a legal process. Under the 1968 law, a person must be declared mentally unfit by a court or have been committed to a mental institution to lose his or her right to possess firearms.

Loughner's background check

A store selling firearms is required to check with NICS before making a sale. In Mr. Loughner’s case, when the 22-year-old went to the Sportsman’s Warehouse outlet in Tucson, Ariz., on Nov. 30 to purchase a Glock 19 semiautomatic handgun, a background check was performed and he came up clear, according to the store manager.


http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2011/0110/Why-Jared-Loughner-was-allowed-to-buy-a-gun

A synopsis of Arizona state laws on purchase, possession and carrying of firearms.

PURCHASE
It is unlawful to sell or give to a minor, without written consent of the minor’s parent or legal guardian, a firearm or ammunition.

No state permit is required to purchase a shotgun, rifle, or handgun.

It is unlawful to sell or transfer a firearm to a “prohibited possessor.” (See definition under Possession.) A concealed handgun permit will exempt a gun purchaser from the NICS check.

POSSESSION
No state permit is required to possess a shotgun, rifle or handgun. It is unlawful for a “prohibited possessor” to possess a firearm.1


A prohibited possessor includes a person found to constitute a danger to himself or others pursuant to a court order and whose court ordered treatment has not been terminated; who has been convicted of a felony involving violence or possession and use of a deadly weapon or dangerous instrument and whose civil rights have not been restored; who is at the time of possession serving a term of imprisonment in any correctional or detention facility; who at the time of possession is serving a term of probation pursuant to a conviction for a domestic violence offense or a felony offense, parole, community supervision, work furlough, home arrest or release on any other basis or who is serving a term of probation or parole; or who was previously adjudicated delinquent and who possesses, uses or carries a firearm within ten years from the date of adjudication or release for an offense that if committed as an adult would constitute first or second degree burglary, arson, murder, manslaughter, kidnapping, robbery, aggravated assault, sexual assault or any felony offense involving the use or threatening exhibition of a deadly weapon or dangerous instrument.

No person, other than a peace officer or a member of the military forces of the United States, shall knowingly possess a firearm on which the manufacturer’s serial number has been removed, altered or destroyed. This does not apply to possession by a museum as a part of its collection or an educational institution for educational purposes or by an authorized employee of such museum or institution or acquisition by gift, devise or descent or in a fiduciary capacity as a recipient of the property of an insolvent, incapacitated or deceased person.

An unemancipated person under 18 not accompanied by a parent, grandparent, guardian, or a certified hunter safety instructor or certified firearms safety instructor acting with consent of the minor’s parent, grandparent or guardian shall not carry or possess on his person, within his immediate control, or in or on a means of transportation a firearm in any place open to the public or on any street, highway, or on private property, except private property owned or leased by the minor or the minor’s parent, grandparent, or guardian. This prohibition does not apply to a person between 14 and 17 engaged in lawful hunting, marksmanship practice, transportation of an unloaded firearm for the purpose of hunting or, between 5:00 AM and 10:00 PM, transportation of an unloaded firearm for the purpose of marksmanship at a range or other area where the discharge of firearms is not prohibited.

HIDECARRYING
Arizona respects the right of law abiding citizens to openly carry a handgun. Any person 21 years of age or older, who is not prohibited possessor, may carry a weapon openly or concealed without the need for a license. Any person carrying without a license must acknowledge and comply with the demands of a law enforcement officer when asked if he/she is carrying a concealed deadly weapon, if the officer has initiated an "investigation" such as a traffic stop.


It is unlawful to carry a firearm concealed within the immediate control of any person in or on a means of transportation if under 21 years of age. Firearms carried in a vehicle shall be transported in a case, a holster or scabbard, a storage compartment, trunk, pack, luggage, or glove compartment of a means of transportation.

No person shall, unless specifically authorized by law, enter a public establishment or attend a public event carrying a firearm after a reasonable request by the operator of the establishment or the sponsor of the event to remove his firearm and place it in the custody of the operator or sponsor. This does not apply to shooting ranges or shooting events, hunting areas or similar locations or activities.

It is unlawful, unless specifically authorized by law, to enter an election polling place on the day of any election carrying a firearm.

It is unlawful to possess a deadly weapon on grade or high school grounds. This shall not apply to an unloaded firearm within a means of transportation under the control of an adult, provided, if the adult leaves the vehicle, it shall be locked and the unloaded firearm shall not be visible, or for a program approved by the school.

The Department of Public Safety shall issue a permit to carry a concealed weapon to a resident of the state at least 21 years old, a U.S. citizen, who satisfactorily completes an approved firearms safety program, submits fingerprints and a fee of $60 for a new license and $43 for a renewal, and who does not fall into a class of person prohibited to possess a firearm, such as a convicted felon, adjudicated mental incompetent, or illegal alien. The qualification checks shall be completed within 60 days of receipt of the application, and the permit will be issued within 15 working days after completing the checks. The permit is valid for not more than 5 years and is renewable every 5 years.

The Department of Public Safety shall enter into written agreements with states that require written agreements for the purpose of establishing mutual recognition. A person with a concealed firearm permit who is a resident of another state, is lawfully present and not prohibited from possessing a firearm in the state of Arizona, may carry a concealed firearm while in this state.

A person with a concealed weapons permit may carry a concealed handgun on the premises of a liquor licensee who is an on-sale retailer unless the licensee posts a sign that clearly prohibits the possession of weapons on the licensed premises.

A property owner, tenant, public or private employer or business entity shall not establish, maintain or enforce a policy or rule that prohibits a person from lawfully transporting or lawfully storing any firearm that is in the person’s locked and privately owned motor vehicle or in a locked compartment on the person’s privately owned motorcycle and not visible from the outside of the motor vehicle or motorcycle.

Any hunter going afield may carry a handgun for self defense but shall not use the handgun for the taking of wildlife.

http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-laws/arizona.aspx
 
AZ does not require a permit to carry a gun and like any state, anyone not a felon or not in the mental health system (degree varies from st to st) can own a gun,. That is the most basic 2A right. So that is not about gun laws. He is a mentally ill person not in the system....fix that system.

Adam Lanza, the Newtown shooter, was stopped at the gun store (because the background check law worked) and still got guns for his rampage. Chicago makes it illegal for nearly anyone to own a gun, esp. a handgun...and it has some of the highest gun crime rates in the country. Hmmmmm, weird. Guns are illegal, no way should anyone have them there.

So not sure what the point is.

My point was clear; gun laws, or additional gun laws, would not and did not stop these murderers from carrying out their crimes.

Thank you for making my case.
 
AZ does not require a permit to carry a gun and like any state, anyone not a felon or not in the mental health system (degree varies from st to st) can own a gun,. That is the most basic 2A right. So that is not about gun laws. He is a mentally ill person not in the system....fix that system.

Adam Lanza, the Newtown shooter, was stopped at the gun store (because the background check law worked) and still got guns for his rampage. Chicago makes it illegal for nearly anyone to own a gun, esp. a handgun...and it has some of the highest gun crime rates in the country. Hmmmmm, weird. Guns are illegal, no way should anyone have them there.

So not sure what the point is.

Correction on Lanza: He wasn't stopped because the background check law worked exactly, he refused to answer any questions posed to him and left the store when he was asked to fill out the forms. Unfortunately, even though he was mentally deficient in still unknown ways, he was able to have access to guns because his parent, in this case his mother, bought him guns in her name and let him have them and let him learn to shoot them. When Adam Lanza finally flipped out he used the guns she had bought for him to kill her and the 26 (I think) people at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Connecticut. This incident was certainly a tragedy which could have been avoided if she had controlled her own evidently recently acquired obsession with guns and had taken some precautions to keep them out of the hands of her son, Lanza! Twenty sets of parents are still suffering today because of her lapse.
 
Correction on Lanza: He wasn't stopped because the background check law worked exactly, he refused to answer any questions posed to him and left the store when he was asked to fill out the forms. Unfortunately, even though he was mentally deficient in still unknown ways, he was able to have access to guns because his parent, in this case his mother, bought him guns in her name and let him have them and let him learn to shoot them. When Adam Lanza finally flipped out he used the guns she had bought for him to kill her and the 26 (I think) people at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Connecticut. This incident was certainly a tragedy which could have been avoided if she had controlled her own evidently recently acquired obsession with guns and had taken some precautions to keep them out of the hands of her son, Lanza! Twenty sets of parents are still suffering today because of her lapse.

Um, the fact that he would not submit to the background check indicates it worked just fine.

And we dont know she bought him guns....where is that documented? SHe had guns and altho there are laws in some states re: gun locks and safes, they all apply to minors, which he was not. Parents rarely let themselves see the worst in their kids, she probably never imagined he'd be violent.

So to have stopped him from getting guns, unless his family took responsibility to keep guns from him (no laws exist to make them do so)...then you could only have prevented it by completely withdrawing the 2nd Amendment...the right at its most basic is for people to own a gun in their home/property.

So the mother may be at fault, but no lack of gun laws is.
 
If you get your information from the Brady campaign of disinformation, you just might be a low information voter.

Perhaps you should educate yourself on the laws of the state before making such uniformed claims. This case is again evidence that the laws do not prevent whackos from obtaining weapons. In the Newtown case, the kid was under age and could not obtain a weapon through a purchase, which is why he stole the weapons and used them to murder his mom who was the legal owner of the weapons.

The notion that criminals obey laws can only be expressed by the mentally challenged. The argument that more laws will prevent these crimes is the epitome of ignorance.

Evidence is mounting that Arizona shooting suspect Jared Loughner was mentally unstable – and yet he was still allowed to purchase a gun legally.

The federal Gun Control Act of 1968 prohibits the possession of firearms by the mentally ill. So why was Mr. Loughner able to guy a gun?

The ability to own a firearm is a constitutionally protected right, and depriving someone of that right involves a legal process. Under the 1968 law, a person must be declared mentally unfit by a court or have been committed to a mental institution to lose his or her right to possess firearms.

Loughner's background check

A store selling firearms is required to check with NICS before making a sale. In Mr. Loughner’s case, when the 22-year-old went to the Sportsman’s Warehouse outlet in Tucson, Ariz., on Nov. 30 to purchase a Glock 19 semiautomatic handgun, a background check was performed and he came up clear, according to the store manager.


http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2011/0110/Why-Jared-Loughner-was-allowed-to-buy-a-gun


A synopsis of Arizona state laws on purchase, possession and carrying of firearms.

PURCHASE
It is unlawful to sell or give to a minor, without written consent of the minor’s parent or legal guardian, a firearm or ammunition.

No state permit is required to purchase a shotgun, rifle, or handgun.

It is unlawful to sell or transfer a firearm to a “prohibited possessor.” (See definition under Possession.) A concealed handgun permit will exempt a gun purchaser from the NICS check.

POSSESSION
No state permit is required to possess a shotgun, rifle or handgun. It is unlawful for a “prohibited possessor” to possess a firearm.1


A prohibited possessor includes a person found to constitute a danger to himself or others pursuant to a court order and whose court ordered treatment has not been terminated; who has been convicted of a felony involving violence or possession and use of a deadly weapon or dangerous instrument and whose civil rights have not been restored; who is at the time of possession serving a term of imprisonment in any correctional or detention facility; who at the time of possession is serving a term of probation pursuant to a conviction for a domestic violence offense or a felony offense, parole, community supervision, work furlough, home arrest or release on any other basis or who is serving a term of probation or parole; or who was previously adjudicated delinquent and who possesses, uses or carries a firearm within ten years from the date of adjudication or release for an offense that if committed as an adult would constitute first or second degree burglary, arson, murder, manslaughter, kidnapping, robbery, aggravated assault, sexual assault or any felony offense involving the use or threatening exhibition of a deadly weapon or dangerous instrument.

No person, other than a peace officer or a member of the military forces of the United States, shall knowingly possess a firearm on which the manufacturer’s serial number has been removed, altered or destroyed. This does not apply to possession by a museum as a part of its collection or an educational institution for educational purposes or by an authorized employee of such museum or institution or acquisition by gift, devise or descent or in a fiduciary capacity as a recipient of the property of an insolvent, incapacitated or deceased person.

An unemancipated person under 18 not accompanied by a parent, grandparent, guardian, or a certified hunter safety instructor or certified firearms safety instructor acting with consent of the minor’s parent, grandparent or guardian shall not carry or possess on his person, within his immediate control, or in or on a means of transportation a firearm in any place open to the public or on any street, highway, or on private property, except private property owned or leased by the minor or the minor’s parent, grandparent, or guardian. This prohibition does not apply to a person between 14 and 17 engaged in lawful hunting, marksmanship practice, transportation of an unloaded firearm for the purpose of hunting or, between 5:00 AM and 10:00 PM, transportation of an unloaded firearm for the purpose of marksmanship at a range or other area where the discharge of firearms is not prohibited.

HIDECARRYING
Arizona respects the right of law abiding citizens to openly carry a handgun. Any person 21 years of age or older, who is not prohibited possessor, may carry a weapon openly or concealed without the need for a license. Any person carrying without a license must acknowledge and comply with the demands of a law enforcement officer when asked if he/she is carrying a concealed deadly weapon, if the officer has initiated an "investigation" such as a traffic stop.


It is unlawful to carry a firearm concealed within the immediate control of any person in or on a means of transportation if under 21 years of age. Firearms carried in a vehicle shall be transported in a case, a holster or scabbard, a storage compartment, trunk, pack, luggage, or glove compartment of a means of transportation.

No person shall, unless specifically authorized by law, enter a public establishment or attend a public event carrying a firearm after a reasonable request by the operator of the establishment or the sponsor of the event to remove his firearm and place it in the custody of the operator or sponsor. This does not apply to shooting ranges or shooting events, hunting areas or similar locations or activities.

It is unlawful, unless specifically authorized by law, to enter an election polling place on the day of any election carrying a firearm.

It is unlawful to possess a deadly weapon on grade or high school grounds. This shall not apply to an unloaded firearm within a means of transportation under the control of an adult, provided, if the adult leaves the vehicle, it shall be locked and the unloaded firearm shall not be visible, or for a program approved by the school.

The Department of Public Safety shall issue a permit to carry a concealed weapon to a resident of the state at least 21 years old, a U.S. citizen, who satisfactorily completes an approved firearms safety program, submits fingerprints and a fee of $60 for a new license and $43 for a renewal, and who does not fall into a class of person prohibited to possess a firearm, such as a convicted felon, adjudicated mental incompetent, or illegal alien. The qualification checks shall be completed within 60 days of receipt of the application, and the permit will be issued within 15 working days after completing the checks. The permit is valid for not more than 5 years and is renewable every 5 years.

The Department of Public Safety shall enter into written agreements with states that require written agreements for the purpose of establishing mutual recognition. A person with a concealed firearm permit who is a resident of another state, is lawfully present and not prohibited from possessing a firearm in the state of Arizona, may carry a concealed firearm while in this state.

A person with a concealed weapons permit may carry a concealed handgun on the premises of a liquor licensee who is an on-sale retailer unless the licensee posts a sign that clearly prohibits the possession of weapons on the licensed premises.

A property owner, tenant, public or private employer or business entity shall not establish, maintain or enforce a policy or rule that prohibits a person from lawfully transporting or lawfully storing any firearm that is in the person’s locked and privately owned motor vehicle or in a locked compartment on the person’s privately owned motorcycle and not visible from the outside of the motor vehicle or motorcycle.

Any hunter going afield may carry a handgun for self defense but shall not use the handgun for the taking of wildlife.

http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-laws/arizona.aspx


In other words, there were no gun laws in Arizona that prevented Laughner from obtaining a firearm. Thanks for clarifying that. Yes there are some minimal laws governing gun sales in all states but Arizona as I said has some of the most lax gun laws in the country. And they are so lax that only Utah's laws are judged to be more lax. In fact, there was no gun law in Arizona that prevented Laughner from legally obtaining a firearm, and suspicion of mental illness is not grounds for denying a purchase in Arizona as you have shown. The person must have been adjudicated mentally defective. Thanks for showing that Laughner was never so adjudicated. Other than that nothing you have said or quoted here shows that Arizona has any gun laws that would have prevented Laughner from obtaining a weapon. Or that Arizona had the second most lax gun laws in the United States. And one of the highest murder rates in the United States, too, I might add, in direct contradiction to claims made by gun rights advocates and other idiots who are fond of claiming, like their hero, John Lott, that more guns means fewer gun deaths.
 
In other words, there were no gun laws in Arizona that prevented Laughner from obtaining a firearm. Thanks for clarifying that. Yes there are some minimal laws governing gun sales in all states but Arizona as I said has some of the most lax gun laws in the country. And they are so lax that only Utah's laws are judged to be more lax. In fact, there was no gun law in Arizona that prevented Laughner from legally obtaining a firearm, and suspicion of mental illness is not grounds for denying a purchase in Arizona as you have shown. The person must have been adjudicated mentally defective. Thanks for showing that Laughner was never so adjudicated. Other than that nothing you have said or quoted here shows that Arizona has any gun laws that would have prevented Laughner from obtaining a weapon. Or that Arizona had the second most lax gun laws in the United States. And one of the highest murder rates in the United States, too, I might add, in direct contradiction to claims made by gun rights advocates and other idiots who are fond of claiming, like their hero, John Lott, that more guns means fewer gun deaths.

Since there are 50 States; how many are worse then AZ and how many have a lower rate?
Seeing as how your straw man was a little ambiguous.
 
Correction on Lanza: He wasn't stopped because the background check law worked exactly, he refused to answer any questions posed to him and left the store when he was asked to fill out the forms. Unfortunately, even though he was mentally deficient in still unknown ways, he was able to have access to guns because his parent, in this case his mother, bought him guns in her name and let him have them and let him learn to shoot them. When Adam Lanza finally flipped out he used the guns she had bought for him to kill her and the 26 (I think) people at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Connecticut. This incident was certainly a tragedy which could have been avoided if she had controlled her own evidently recently acquired obsession with guns and had taken some precautions to keep them out of the hands of her son, Lanza! Twenty sets of parents are still suffering today because of her lapse.

So in other words, like we have all been saying, gun laws did nothing to prevent him from getting a weapon to commit his heinous crimes.

But you would argue that more gun laws would have done what the current gun laws didn't do? Dumb...real dumb.
 
In other words, there were no gun laws in Arizona that prevented Laughner from obtaining a firearm. Thanks for clarifying that. Yes there are some minimal laws governing gun sales in all states but Arizona as I said has some of the most lax gun laws in the country. And they are so lax that only Utah's laws are judged to be more lax. In fact, there was no gun law in Arizona that prevented Laughner from legally obtaining a firearm, and suspicion of mental illness is not grounds for denying a purchase in Arizona as you have shown. The person must have been adjudicated mentally defective. Thanks for showing that Laughner was never so adjudicated. Other than that nothing you have said or quoted here shows that Arizona has any gun laws that would have prevented Laughner from obtaining a weapon. Or that Arizona had the second most lax gun laws in the United States. And one of the highest murder rates in the United States, too, I might add, in direct contradiction to claims made by gun rights advocates and other idiots who are fond of claiming, like their hero, John Lott, that more guns means fewer gun deaths.

Wrong again; in other words Arizona already had identical laws and Federal laws that would have prevented someone with a mental condition from obtaining a weapon versus your strawman attempt to suggest that Arizona didn't have restrictive enough laws to prevent Lanza from buying a weapon legally; which he did.

You're quite the confused brain dead Liberal aren't you? Or are you being deliberately this dumb?
 
Edited after reading Newsweek article:

Further after reading that article in it's entirety I still don't see where it says what you claim it says and in fact it says this:

I agree. I don't know what the point of it was in terms of women's vaginas killing men.

Giving more women attempt suicide than men, maybe it's men who are deadly to women.
 
In other words, there were no gun laws in Arizona that prevented Laughner from obtaining a firearm. Thanks for clarifying that. Yes there are some minimal laws governing gun sales in all states but Arizona as I said has some of the most lax gun laws in the country. And they are so lax that only Utah's laws are judged to be more lax. In fact, there was no gun law in Arizona that prevented Laughner from legally obtaining a firearm, and suspicion of mental illness is not grounds for denying a purchase in Arizona as you have shown. The person must have been adjudicated mentally defective. Thanks for showing that Laughner was never so adjudicated. Other than that nothing you have said or quoted here shows that Arizona has any gun laws that would have prevented Laughner from obtaining a weapon. Or that Arizona had the second most lax gun laws in the United States. And one of the highest murder rates in the United States, too, I might add, in direct contradiction to claims made by gun rights advocates and other idiots who are fond of claiming, like their hero, John Lott, that more guns means fewer gun deaths.

So we should all try to be like Chicago or DC (until recently) where the laws prevent almost everyone from owning guns...Almost no one has guns and they have excellent safety and crime records. No gun crimes or killings at all. Esp. superb when compared to the rest of the country.

Oh, wait.....
 
Arm all babies in America over the age of two but only the pure white ones. No guns for black babies. And no guns for any other culuhed folks either.
 
So we should all try to be like Chicago or DC (until recently) where the laws prevent almost everyone from owning guns...Almost no one has guns and they have excellent safety and crime records. No gun crimes or killings at all. Esp. superb when compared to the rest of the country.

Oh, wait.....

Bravo....lol
 
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. The only thing at stops a bad guy with an assault rifle is a good guy with an assault rifle, who only needs the assault rifle to counter the people with that assault rifle. The only thing that stops a bad guy with a grenade is a good guy with knowledge of that grenade. The only thing that can stop American citizens from being stupid is EDUCATION.
 
In other words, there were no gun laws in Arizona that prevented Laughner from obtaining a firearm. Thanks for clarifying that. Yes there are some minimal laws governing gun sales in all states but Arizona as I said has some of the most lax gun laws in the country. And they are so lax that only Utah's laws are judged to be more lax. In fact, there was no gun law in Arizona that prevented Laughner from legally obtaining a firearm, and suspicion of mental illness is not grounds for denying a purchase in Arizona as you have shown. The person must have been adjudicated mentally defective. Thanks for showing that Laughner was never so adjudicated. Other than that nothing you have said or quoted here shows that Arizona has any gun laws that would have prevented Laughner from obtaining a weapon. Or that Arizona had the second most lax gun laws in the United States. And one of the highest murder rates in the United States, too, I might add, in direct contradiction to claims made by gun rights advocates and other idiots who are fond of claiming, like their hero, John Lott, that more guns means fewer gun deaths.

What gun laws would you suggest for AZ? Laughner was suspected of being mentally unstable, but I hope you do not think that suspicion alone is reason enough to remove a constitutional right. And if someone has committed no felony, has not been adjudicated mentally defective, and is willing to undergo the background check, why would they not be allowed to buy a firearm?
 
I agree. I don't know what the point of it was in terms of women's vaginas killing men.

Giving more women attempt suicide than men, maybe it's men who are deadly to women.

Your lack of reading comprehension or deductive ability is not my problem. A perfect example being that since women generally fail at suicide attempts, perhaps that is not their actual intention.

The article was clear in articulating the causes of suicide.
 
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