The Positive side of COVID-19

[Ralph]

You mean just like you are doing now? The fact remains the US isn't alone in being concerned about this disease. If it was, I'd completely agree it's political bullshit, but it isn't.

Texas doesn't have a lefty, liberal government. We've had 45,198 confirmed cases, 25,454 recovered cases and 1,272 deaths. While I don't trust the data out of Russia and China, I do trust the data from the Texas and Federal government. You claiming that data is "simply parroted some talking head talking out their ass" is a ridiculous.

Again....PANIC PORN. Truth does not favor Rs or Ds. Math does not lie...…..more people died (in total population) during the first 4 months of 2018 than have died in the middle of a supposed pandemic during the same time period in 2020. Figures don't like but LIARS SURE AS HELL FIGURE. Take for example the month of March.....right in the middle throws of this PLANNEDDEMIC......more people died last year during March than this year...go figure, and overall...…...during the months of Jan. thru April more people died in 2018 than in 2020 thus far. In fact....the death rate in the US over the previous 4 years has been higher than the numbers recorded at the height of this supposed pandemic this year.

As I said "PANIC PORN" projected by those who simply parrot and paste left wing talking points as truth. www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/st...ch-2020-actually-15-average-prior-four-years/

Can you spell? Spell this...... LEFT WING HOAX, just like the Russia, Russia, Russia event.....when it was OBAMAGATE playing out. The left loves to project LIES.....only fools eat it for breakfast.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Its the "panic porn" from ignorant enablers......that concerns me. Even the 3% number that you presented is total Bullshit as you simply parroted some talking head talking out their ass. You are parroting demonstrated "fake" propaganda from the WHO (world health organization.....controlled by the Chicoms). This 3% mortality was debunked almost as soon as the WHO released this model based upon a false premise.....the actual mortality rate resembles the seasonal flu.....@ 0.1% That's correct of the 100% infected.....99.9% make a total recovery within 3 days (entire population.....the highest mortality rate lies with seniors and the infirmed just like the seasonal flu).

What utter nonsense from you. The rate of mortality can't be .1% based on deaths in NY. If we assume every person in NY state has had Covid we get a mortaly rate of .15% which is already 50% more than your claim. If we look at Queens and assume everyone there has had Covid we get a mortality rate of .26%, more than double your claimed rate. When we get to the Bronx the rate is .28% if we simply divide deaths by population. The only one talking out of their ass is you when you claim 99.9% recover in 3 days.

The one's that should be "sequestered" are those who are actually sick and infirmed ……..not the healthy who should be going about their business as usual creating a herd immunity. As always....the globalists and the leftists have the MULE ATTEMPTING TO PUSH THE PLOW.

And you are here trying to tell us the bulldozer we are pushing the plow with is really a mule. Facts matter. Your blindness to those facts doesn't help your argument.

Not only did the WHO allow the bug to spread on a global basis by refusing to release the actual data from CHINA back in the fall of 2019......their first action was to send out millions of tests that resulted in an 80% false positive. Just ask the Canucks about their dealings with the Chicoms and the WHO …….they paid for protective equipment with a medical order to China and found out they were sent worthless faulty medical equipment.

If 80% of the test are false positives then once again we arrive at your claim of .1% case mortality must be bogus. If 100% of a population MUST be infected to achieve your .1% mortality rate then the false positive MUST be 0% for that population. There is no way for it to be 80% false positives. Let's look at Italy, Spain, and the UK. Let's assume 100% of those countries are tested and 80% are false positives. That would mean only 20% of the population could be infected. That would put case mortality rates in those countries at almost 1%.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Again....PANIC PORN....

ROFL Dude, you are free to scream that until the cows come home but sane people understand facts, the insane not so much.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

What utter nonsense from you. The rate of mortality can't be .1% based on deaths in NY. If we assume every person in NY state has had Covid we get a mortaly rate of .15% which is already 50% more than your claim. If we look at Queens and assume everyone there has had Covid we get a mortality rate of .26%, more than double your claimed rate. When we get to the Bronx the rate is .28% if we simply divide deaths by population. The only one talking out of their ass is you when you claim 99.9% recover in 3 days.

And you are here trying to tell us the bulldozer we are pushing the plow with is really a mule. Facts matter. Your blindness to those facts doesn't help your argument.
If 80% of the test are false positives then once again we arrive at your claim of .1% case mortality must be bogus. If 100% of a population MUST be infected to achieve your .1% mortality rate then the false positive MUST be 0% for that population. There is no way for it to be 80% false positives. Let's look at Italy, Spain, and the UK. Let's assume 100% of those countries are tested and 80% are false positives. That would mean only 20% of the population could be infected. That would put case mortality rates in those countries at almost 1%.

you're desperate. nobody believes in fake virus.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Again....PANIC PORN. Truth does not favor Rs or Ds. Math does not lie...…..LIEmore people died (in total population) during the first 4 months of 2018 than have died in the middle of a supposed pandemic during the same time period in 2020. Figures don't like but LIARS SURE AS HELL FIGURE. Take for example the month of March.....right in the middle throws of this PLANNEDDEMIC......more people died last year during March than this year...go figure, and overall...…...during the months of Jan. thru April more people died in 2018 than in 2020 thus far. LIEIn fact....the death rate in the US over the previous 4 years has been higher than the numbers recorded at the height of this supposed pandemic this year.

As I said "PANIC PORN" projected by those who simply parrot and paste left wing talking points as truth. www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/st...ch-2020-actually-15-average-prior-four-years/

Can you spell? Spell this...... LEFT WING HOAX, just like the Russia, Russia, Russia event.....when it was OBAMAGATE playing out. The left loves to project LIES.....only fools eat it for breakfast.

Really? You are going with that idiotic claim? On April 8th, CDC did not have complete data for March of 2020 so the author is using incomplete data. Then he cherry picks a large flu season while not including the worst months of Covid deaths. By March 30th there were only 4,000 deaths in the US from Covid 19.
So.. Let's look at the comparison, week by week.

week 2018 2019 2020
1 - 66,134 58,292 59,576
2 - 67,495 58,354 59,919
3 - 64,647 58,197 58,400
4 - 62,780 57,837 57,855
5 - 60,974 58,128 57,385
6 - 61,110 58,496 57,996
7 - 59,779 57,918 57,339
8 - 57,793 57,862 57,336
9 - 56,692 57,922 57,630
10 - 57,093 58,509 57,184
11 - 56,326 57,897 55,658
12 - 55,766 57,089 55,790
13 - 54,918 56,674 58,824
14 - 55,294 56,594 66,580
15 - 55,228 55,482 71,879
16 - 54,038 54,461 67,059

Yep. Figures don't lie but liars do figure.

Lie number one from you- there are more deaths in 2020 than in 2018.
Deaths through week 16 in 2018 - 946,067
Deaths through week 16 in 2020 - 956,410


The worst part of it is your claim that March was the height of the pandemic. April was. By March 20 we only had 70 deaths from Covid. If we simply compare the worst week from 2018 and 2020 we see that 2020 has more deaths in one week than any time in 2018. A four week period in 2020 is worse than the worst 4 week period in 2018.

At this point we are averaging 13,000 more deaths per week than during 2018 or 2019. You are free to stick you head in the sand but numbers don't lie. When final numbers come in for April we will probably be 25,000 more deaths from the beginning of the year to the end of April than in 2018

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

You mean just like you are doing now? The fact remains the US isn't alone in being concerned about this disease. If it was, I'd completely agree it's political bullshit, but it isn't.

Texas doesn't have a lefty, liberal government. We've had 45,198 confirmed cases, 25,454 recovered cases and 1,272 deaths. While I don't trust the data out of Russia and China, I do trust the data from the Texas and Federal government. You claiming that data is "simply parroted some talking head talking out their ass" is a ridiculous.

You've probably noticed, as I have, that in their desperation to save the orange bacon, the Trumpanzees' latest tactic is to lie about the reported numbers. As always, no actual facts will sway them.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

You've probably noticed, as I have, that in their desperation to save the orange bacon, the Trumpanzees' latest tactic is to lie about the reported numbers. As always, no actual facts will sway them.

Agreed, that truth always gets out. That's a main reason why I do not support conspiracy theories; too many people know about it.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Agreed, that truth always gets out. That's a main reason why I do not support conspiracy theories; too many people know about it.

Yep. Mr. Owl's theory on that: Conspiracy theorists think that when it comes to the government, there isn't a single thing that they can do right. But when there's an sinister plot being cooked up by the same government, their nefarious evil is perfect. lol

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Yep. Mr. Owl's theory on that: Conspiracy theorists think that when it comes to the government, there isn't a single thing that they can do right. But when there's an sinister plot being cooked up by the same government, their nefarious evil is perfect. lol

ROFLMAO. Good for Mr. Owl! I agree 100%.

What does he think, big picture wise, about Trump linking the pandemic, economy, "Obamagate" and the election?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

you're desperate. nobody believes in fake virus.

LOL. Well, at least none of the conspiracy theorist nutjobs, looneytoons and other mental cases living in denial believe COVID-19 exists. To them, Trump is correct: it's just another "flu virus". No worse. Of course, that doesn't explain why Trump claimed it was a pandemic and why he's holding daily "flu" briefings.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Obviously, the more people are tested, the more COVID cases which will be identified. 100% testing would give our nation the hard numbers of how many are infected, the likelihood of full recovery and the actual death rate. Testing 328M+ Americans every day is impossible and cost-prohibitive, so the CDC and other medical agencies need to be allowed to take what their decades of medical expertise say should be done, not politicians running for election/reelection.

In Texas and across the nation, cases are trending higher as more testing is completed; mostly from people reporting symptoms as Trump wants to be done.

https://news.yahoo.com/texas-reports-more-1-800-211812096.html
Despite cumulative increases in illness, few states are rebooting quicker than Texas, where stay-at-home orders expired May 1. The first phase of the reopening began with restaurants, malls and movie theaters, with operators directed to keep occupancy levels at 25 percent.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

ROFLMAO. Good for Mr. Owl! I agree 100%.

What does he think, big picture wise, about Trump linking the pandemic, economy, "Obamagate" and the election?

He's pretty apolitical and doesn't pay close attention unless something's affecting the markets/his investments. As for the economy, he thinks we're going to have to open up and take the hit in human lives. The tightrope act that governments are going to have to perform is balancing the need for a good economy, and overwhelming the health care system as we saw in NYC and other cities. That being said, he also doesn't believe that we're going to see much if any economic recovery until an effective and safe vaccine is developed -- most people are intelligent enough not to rush back into crowded venues right now.

As for Trump he thinks it's very possible that he will lose in November because none of this is going to go away by then. Demographically his base is dying from the virus (https://www.statista.com/statistics...-the-exit-polls-of-the-2016-elections-by-age/) and/or is at high risk of dying from it. His cavalier attitude towards COVID is turning a lot of ppl off.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Obviously, the more people are tested, the more COVID cases which will be identified. 100% testing would give our nation the hard numbers of how many are infected, the likelihood of full recovery and the actual death rate. Testing 328M+ Americans every day is impossible and cost-prohibitive, so the CDC and other medical agencies need to be allowed to take what their decades of medical expertise say should be done, not politicians running for election/reelection.

In Texas and across the nation, cases are trending higher as more testing is completed; mostly from people reporting symptoms as Trump wants to be done.

https://news.yahoo.com/texas-reports-more-1-800-211812096.html
Despite cumulative increases in illness, few states are rebooting quicker than Texas, where stay-at-home orders expired May 1. The first phase of the reopening began with restaurants, malls and movie theaters, with operators directed to keep occupancy levels at 25 percent.

testing everyone would show how innocuous the disease is. waiting for symptoms make it appear worse for fearporn reasons.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Despite cumulative increases in illness, few states are rebooting quicker than Texas, where stay-at-home orders expired May 1. The first phase of the reopening began with restaurants, malls and movie theaters, with operators directed to keep occupancy levels at 25 percent.

I wonder if there is any profit in limiting a movie theater or restaurant to 25% occupancy. I'm betting not, unless they raise prices to levels ppl won't willingly pay.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

testing everyone would show how innocuous the disease is. waiting for symptoms make it appear worse for fearporn reasons.

Written by someone who thinks Dr. Trump's medical expertise is superior to the entire CDC, WHO and the medical services of every major nation on the planet.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

He's pretty apolitical and doesn't pay close attention unless something's affecting the markets/his investments. As for the economy, he thinks we're going to have to open up and take the hit in human lives. The tightrope act that governments are going to have to perform is balancing the need for a good economy, and overwhelming the health care system as we saw in NYC and other cities. That being said, he also doesn't believe that we're going to see much if any economic recovery until an effective and safe vaccine is developed -- most people are intelligent enough not to rush back into crowded venues right now.

As for Trump he thinks it's very possible that he will lose in November because none of this is going to go away by then. Demographically his base is dying from the virus (https://www.statista.com/statistics...-the-exit-polls-of-the-2016-elections-by-age/) and/or is at high risk of dying from it. His cavalier attitude towards COVID is turning a lot of ppl off.

he's stomping biden in polls. your narrative is false.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Written by someone who thinks Dr. Trump's medical expertise is superior to the entire CDC, WHO and the medical services of every major nation on the planet.

what im saying is logic based.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

He's pretty apolitical and doesn't pay close attention unless something's affecting the markets/his investments. As for the economy, he thinks we're going to have to open up and take the hit in human lives. The tightrope act that governments are going to have to perform is balancing the need for a good economy, and overwhelming the health care system as we saw in NYC and other cities. That being said, he also doesn't believe that we're going to see much if any economic recovery until an effective and safe vaccine is developed -- most people are intelligent enough not to rush back into crowded venues right now.

As for Trump he thinks it's very possible that he will lose in November because none of this is going to go away by then. Demographically his base is dying from the virus (https://www.statista.com/statistics...-the-exit-polls-of-the-2016-elections-by-age/) and/or is at high risk of dying from it. His cavalier attitude towards COVID is turning a lot of ppl off.

GMTA. I agree with Mr. Owl on both the economy and the tightrope act.

No President could have prevented this disease anymore than they could have prevented an asteroid impact event. What our nation's leaders could have done, and should do, is make and fund contingency plans for such natural disasters to minimize the national security impact on our nation. That's their frickin' job and our national leaders have been failing at it for the past two decades. One of the few things they've got right is stopping Islamic terrorism.

Agreed it's a possibility. Even though I have money on Trump (a bet placed before COVID-19) it will be close. Trump is clearly his own worst enemy. All of his rants about Obama make him look whiny, stupid and delusional. The problem is that the only competition he has is a doddering old man. IMHO, the Democrats are screwing themselves in the direction they've been going for the past 10 years.

Stupid shit from Trump today:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1261751862027595776

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

LOL. Well, at least none of the conspiracy theorist nutjobs, looneytoons and other mental cases living in denial believe COVID-19 exists. To them, Trump is correct: it's just another "flu virus". No worse. Of course, that doesn't explain why Trump claimed it was a pandemic and why he's holding daily "flu" briefings.

it is literally another flu virus.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

what im saying is logic based.

Dude, you are free to believe that putting RW politics over science is "logic based" but it's not. Same goes for putting LW or any other politics over science. Even if Hillary had won in 2016 or Biden wins in November, the same problems would exist: SARS-like pandemic from a novel virus of which there is no cure, no vaccine and it's spreading all over the planet. Denying it exists is just completely fucking stupid. It's insane to deny a virus pandemic as "just the flu" when every nation's medical experts know it's not due to the properties of the virus and the fact there is no known cure or vaccine.