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So you ARE illiterate? Got it.
You know you can't be a virologist if you're dumb as a box of hammers. It's in the rules.
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The Safety and Efficacy of Vaccines
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So you ARE illiterate? Got it.
You know you can't be a virologist if you're dumb as a box of hammers. It's in the rules.
Your flaw here is in thinking the article I quoted only had a single premise, when it actually had many. The title, for instance, asked whether the story that the smallpox vaccine was a success was a lie. In the section I quoted, the claim was made that it was actually containment and sanitation that eradicated smallpox. Now, being aligned with the small group of doctors I referenced in the opening post who question or don't believe that biological viruses exist, I wouldn't go for the bit about containment, but I can certainly believe that sanitation probably played an important role. The article also points that only a small percentage of the global population was vaccinated, culminating in a statement from a pathologist and an eminent doctor. Quoting:
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“It is pathetic and ludicrous to say we ever vanquished smallpox with vaccines, when only 10% of the population was ever vaccinated.” — [Glen Dettman Ph.D., pathologist, awarded (together with the eminent Australian doctor Archie Kalokerinos M.D.) the Australian Medal of Merit for “Outstanding Scientific Research”. (1978)]
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I don't see why I have to believe in viruses in order to agree with their assessment. Do you disagree with their findings? And if so, why?
Yes. Because they are wrong. And your logic is absolute garbage. My turn:
What caused smallpox? You claim it wasn't a virus. Not one article you have posted agrees with you. But I'll humor you. What caused smallpox, and why do you believe sanitation eliminated it?
Why did milkmaids who were exposed to the 'imaginary' cowpox appear to be immune to smallpox. What was the connection.
Why was the smallpox vaccine 95% effective in preventing infection?
I'll wait for your genius response. Yes, you are exactly on par with flat earthers.
I don’t find anything you post credible. I don’t waste my time on nonsense, as I told you before.
Agreed that at times these claims are so ludicrous that they are best ignored. Claiming there are no viruses is galactically stupid it doesn't warrant a response, but in this day in age, we are forced to deal with this, because it is mainstream GOP nonsense.
That's the claim anyway. Given my dismal view of vaccines, I'd say it's a bad thing even if true.
Again, I'm not sure that the claim is accurate, but if it is, I'd agree. Something that's usually not mentioned is the various toxins in vaccines. I personally suspect they're the largest issue with vaccines, even these alleged mRNA ones.
I am hearing that they are very poorly manufactured, that their strength is very variable and that routinely there is shit in the jabs that is not supposed to be there, and that the contracts stipulate that the manufacturers shall be held not liable for all such matters.
Tranquillus in Exile
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Average weekly Covid death rates (March 2022)
Covid deaths per 100,000 people:
Unvaccinated 1.71
Vaccinated 0.22
Boosted 0.1
https://www.scientificamerican.com/...eaths-for-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-people/
In short, you can still die of Covid if you’re fully vaccinated (nobody ever claimed that vaccines provide 100% protection). But you’re nearly 20 times less likely to die than the unvaccinated.
Political point-scoring or self-preservation? Trump knew what to do.
Covid deaths per 100,000 people:
Unvaccinated 1.71
Vaccinated 0.22
Boosted 0.1
https://www.scientificamerican.com/...eaths-for-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-people/
In short, you can still die of Covid if you’re fully vaccinated (nobody ever claimed that vaccines provide 100% protection). But you’re nearly 20 times less likely to die than the unvaccinated.
Political point-scoring or self-preservation? Trump knew what to do.
Average weekly Covid death rates (March 2022)
Covid deaths per 100,000 people:
Unvaccinated 1.71
Vaccinated 0.22
Boosted 0.1
https://www.scientificamerican.com/...eaths-for-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-people/
In short, you can still die of Covid if you’re fully vaccinated (nobody ever claimed that vaccines provide 100% protection). But you’re nearly 20 times less likely to die than the unvaccinated.
Political point-scoring or self-preservation? Trump knew what to do.
Almost no one dies of COVID with the current strains of SARS-COV2....taking more jabs now when we are clearly getting signals that they are very dangerous is moronic.
I am hearing that they are very poorly manufactured, that their strength is very variable and that routinely there is shit in the jabs that is not supposed to be there, and that the contracts stipulate that the manufacturers shall be held not liable for all such matters.
From who? The Nutty Professor?
Almost no one dies of COVID with the current strains of SARS-COV2....taking more jabs now when we are clearly getting signals that they are very dangerous is moronic.
I guess you'd better hope you aren't almost no one.
I guess you'd better hope you aren't almost no one.
The risk of further jabs is clearly worse than my risk from the current strains of SARS-COV2....I am done unless much more leath strains shows up as Geert has been predicting, which might happen, he has been right about almost everything else.
The risk of further jabs is clearly worse than my risk from the current strains of SARS-COV2....I am done unless much more leath strains shows up as Geert has been predicting, which might happen, he has been right about almost everything else.
Do whatever dumb fucking thing you want to do. It is not based on science or evidence. Be stupid. No skin off my nose.
Been talking about this subject in another thread for a bit, decided it could use its own thread. I came to the conclusion that all vaccines do more harm than good a while ago. More recently, I watched the 2016 Vaxxed documentary, as well as its 2019 vaxxed II sequel, which only further reinforced my beliefs on them. Here are links to descriptions and trailers of these documentaries:
Vaxxed: From Cover-Up to Catastrophe | imdb.com
Vaxxed II: The People's Truth | imdb.com
I've also read some books on vaccines that I thought were quite informative as well:
How Vaccines Wreck Human Immunity: A Forbidden Doctor Publication | amazon.com
Vaccine Illusion | amazon.com
As mentioned in another thread in this forum, like a small group of doctors and other professionals, I no longer believe that biological viruses exist, which would mean that any vaccines to allegedly protect against such viruses would be default be completely ineffective since they're attempting to treat something that doesn't exist.
If your only sources are anti-vax you are predetermining your conclusions.
Do whatever dumb fucking thing you want to do. It is not based on science or evidence. Be stupid. No skin off my nose.
LIAR.
Your flaw here is in thinking the article I quoted only had a single premise, when it actually had many. The title, for instance, asked whether the story that the smallpox vaccine was a success was a lie. In the section I quoted, the claim was made that it was actually containment and sanitation that eradicated smallpox. Now, being aligned with the small group of doctors I referenced in the opening post who question or don't believe that biological viruses exist, I wouldn't go for the bit about containment, but I can certainly believe that sanitation probably played an important role. The article also points that only a small percentage of the global population was vaccinated, culminating in a statement from a pathologist and an eminent doctor. Quoting:
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“It is pathetic and ludicrous to say we ever vanquished smallpox with vaccines, when only 10% of the population was ever vaccinated.” — [Glen Dettman Ph.D., pathologist, awarded (together with the eminent Australian doctor Archie Kalokerinos M.D.) the Australian Medal of Merit for “Outstanding Scientific Research”. (1978)]
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I don't see why I have to believe in viruses in order to agree with their assessment. Do you disagree with their findings? And if so, why?
Yes. Because they are wrong.
Why do you believe that?
And your logic is absolute garbage.
Insulting someone's beliefs is easy, supporting your own is what's hard.
My turn:
What caused smallpox? You claim it wasn't a virus.
I believe it wasn't a virus, yes, due to the lack of evidence that viruses exist. If you're interested in debating that subject, I've made thread for it here:
Settling the Biological Virus Debate | justplainpolitics.com
As to what causes smallpox outbreaks, I strongly suspect toxins, but that's as far as I'll go there. I found a video that gets into evidence that the definition of smallpox has always been ambiguous and has frequently been confused with measles and chicken pox, suggesting that smallpox was never eradicated, so much as reclassified as other diseases. It's here:
The smallpox, plague & lepracy hoax + a farewell to virology and contagion theory ft Dr Mark Bailey | Goyimtv.com
Not one article you have posted agrees with you.
Name any article I've ever posted that doesn't agree with some point I'm making.
What caused smallpox, and why do you believe sanitation eliminated it?
Based on the video linked to above, I no longer believe that smallpox has been eliminated at all, just reclassified.
Why did milkmaids who were exposed to the 'imaginary' cowpox appear to be immune to smallpox.
I have never claimed that people haven't suffered from smallpox or that cows haven't suffered from cowpox. The issue is what is causing these diseases. As to alleged immunity to these alleged viruses, you'd need to show your evidence that these any virus exists before I'd be interested in continuing that discussion.
Again, I'm not sure that the claim is accurate, but if it is, I'd agree. Something that's usually not mentioned is the various toxins in vaccines. I personally suspect they're the largest issue with vaccines, even these alleged mRNA ones.
I am hearing that they are very poorly manufactured, that their strength is very variable and that routinely there is shit in the jabs that is not supposed to be there, and that the contracts stipulate that the manufacturers shall be held not liable for all such matters.
Yep. Brazil refused to exempt covid vaccine manufacturers from liability, but they're the exception, not the rule:
Brazil will not exempt COVID-19 vaccine makers from liability, deputy minister says | Reuters
Yep. Brazil refused to exempt covid vaccine manufacturers from liability, but they're the exception, not the rule:
Brazil will not exempt COVID-19 vaccine makers from liability, deputy minister says | Reuters
There have been so many problems, most of them the Mind Molders (nee Journalists) have refused to talk about.
I found an article on the saftey of covid vaccines just now that I imagine some will find interesting. Quoting from its introduction:
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October 4, 2022
Peer-Reviewed Proof: COVID Vaccines Causing More Harm Than Good
A peer-reviewed scientific review in the Journal of Insulin Resistance, written by cardiologist Dr. Aseem Malhotra, calls for the immediate suspension of all COVID-19 shots as real-world data show they cause more harm than good.
By Dr. Joseph Mercola
Story at a glance:
•A peer-reviewed scientific review in the Journal of Insulin Resistance, written by cardiologist Dr. Aseem Malhotra, calls for the immediate suspension of all COVID-19 shots as real-world data show they cause more harm than good.
•Data from Israel shows myocarditis post-jab is occurring at a rate of 1 in 6,000. Hong Kong data from male children and teens found a rate of 1 in 2,700.
•Data from the British Yellow Card system shows that 1 in 120 people who have received at least one mRNA injection suffer an adverse event “that is beyond mild.” In Norway, the rate of serious adverse events post-jab is 1 in 1,000 after two doses of Pfizer.
•Researchers looking at data from the FDA, Health Canada and the Pfizer and Moderna trials concluded the absolute risk of a serious adverse event from the mRNA shots was 1 in 800, which massively exceeds the risk of COVID-19 hospitalization found in randomized controlled trials.
•Leaked audio from a June 2022 meeting between Israeli researchers and the Israeli Ministry of Health reveals the Pfizer jab causes long-term adverse effects and is associated with more severe side effects upon rechallenge (i.e., with repeated doses). While the researchers wanted to warn the public, the Ministry altered their final report to say that adverse effects are mild and short-lived. The government then canceled any further research into adverse effects.
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Full article:
Peer-Reviewed Proof: COVID Vaccines Causing More Harm Than Good | Children's Health Defense
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October 4, 2022
Peer-Reviewed Proof: COVID Vaccines Causing More Harm Than Good
A peer-reviewed scientific review in the Journal of Insulin Resistance, written by cardiologist Dr. Aseem Malhotra, calls for the immediate suspension of all COVID-19 shots as real-world data show they cause more harm than good.
By Dr. Joseph Mercola
Story at a glance:
•A peer-reviewed scientific review in the Journal of Insulin Resistance, written by cardiologist Dr. Aseem Malhotra, calls for the immediate suspension of all COVID-19 shots as real-world data show they cause more harm than good.
•Data from Israel shows myocarditis post-jab is occurring at a rate of 1 in 6,000. Hong Kong data from male children and teens found a rate of 1 in 2,700.
•Data from the British Yellow Card system shows that 1 in 120 people who have received at least one mRNA injection suffer an adverse event “that is beyond mild.” In Norway, the rate of serious adverse events post-jab is 1 in 1,000 after two doses of Pfizer.
•Researchers looking at data from the FDA, Health Canada and the Pfizer and Moderna trials concluded the absolute risk of a serious adverse event from the mRNA shots was 1 in 800, which massively exceeds the risk of COVID-19 hospitalization found in randomized controlled trials.
•Leaked audio from a June 2022 meeting between Israeli researchers and the Israeli Ministry of Health reveals the Pfizer jab causes long-term adverse effects and is associated with more severe side effects upon rechallenge (i.e., with repeated doses). While the researchers wanted to warn the public, the Ministry altered their final report to say that adverse effects are mild and short-lived. The government then canceled any further research into adverse effects.
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Full article:
Peer-Reviewed Proof: COVID Vaccines Causing More Harm Than Good | Children's Health Defense
There have been so many problems, most of them the Mind Molders (nee Journalists) have refused to talk about.
Yeah, the mainstream media has basically become the stenographers of deep state propaganda, itself beholden to various corporate interests. Fortunately, there is still alternative media sources that do talk about these things.
Yeah, the mainstream media has basically become the stenographers of deep state propaganda, itself beholden to various corporate interests. Fortunately, there is still alternative media sources that do talk about these things.
They are shills for UTOPIA.
And they will say anything.