The Trinity

its not a question of discussing it.....the question is why should anyone listen to the opinion of an atheist about Christian theology.....

If I demonstrably understand and know the Bible, why am I barred from discussing it? Don't you find the history of your faith interesting?

For example, in my posts on this thread I've responded in a meaningful manner and referred to Strong's so I'm hardly just "attacking" the Bible. I'm discussing it. If you disagree, disagree...where have I erred?
 
If I demonstrably understand and know the Bible, why am I barred from discussing it? Don't you find the history of your faith interesting?

For example, in my posts on this thread I've responded in a meaningful manner and referred to Strong's so I'm hardly just "attacking" the Bible. I'm discussing it. If you disagree, disagree...where have I erred?

/shrugs.....is the opinion of someone who refuses to believe in what is being discussed somehow meaningful?.....
 
/shrugs.....is the opinion of someone who refuses to believe in what is being discussed somehow meaningful?.....

I don't play soccer but I can still discuss the game. I often read fiction and can discuss the books I've read, even though I don't believe that there are vampires living in Salem's Lot in Maine.

Why is it so scary to discuss faith with people who don't believe exactly as you do? I should think your faith strong enough to handle that.
 
Okay, so what do you think is valuable about religious literature?

There's a HUGE amount of good stuff in the Bible, for instance. Even Christian Soteriology, as twisted as it may sound, has at its core a valuable lesson on self-awareness. Taking responsibility for the harm one does, being aware that we can and do hurt others, is super powerful. Even if you don't buy the whole savior thing, the need for atonement with "God" (or our better selves), the need for "salvation" (from our worst behaviors which are always attractive to us) is still there.

By the same token in the exact same Bible there's some perfectly awful stuff that springs directly from humanity's worse self and spilled onto the page with the imprimatur of God almighty.

And then there's the Book of Numbers which appears to be a test of will for anyone who wants to read the Bible from cover to cover.
 
This should be a good one for the Bible literalists to explain.

What is this Trinity thing? Is it polytheism or not? When did the NT authors come up with that concept and why? Wasn’t just a single god sufficient? What’s the need for three? Can’t one god handle all its responsibilities?

There are quite a few bizarre concepts in the Bible, but this one is near the top. May be number one!
This link explain the evolution of the concept nicely. Mainly formalizing in the fourth century.

It appears a means to maintain monotheism but having three different aspect. Agreed, it’s a bit bizarre.
 
Thankfully most believers don't give a flying fuck about theology either! Imagination is a much more powerful thing.
“Imagination is more powerful than knowledge” - Albert Einstein

One of my favorite quotes.
Good quote. I wasn’t sure I agreed with it, although I know imagination is a very powerful tool, the fuller quote makes sense.

“Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.”

― Albert Einstein
 
Good quote. I wasn’t sure I agreed with it, although I know imagination is a very powerful tool, the fuller quote makes sense.

“Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.”

― Albert Einstein
I think my shortened version is just fine and makes perfect sense by itself.
 
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