The Ukraine ‘peace deal’ is proving to be a scam

Into the Night said:
Scott said:
Some of his remarks can be cryptic. It may be that part of the reason is he may want posters to ask him to elaborate. In any case, I know that asking him to elaborate can certainly yield good results at times.
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If you are confused on anything, just ask and I'll quite probably elaborate. I won't write a book, however.
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Thanks, I may just do that, though in this case I was referring to Hawkeye's sometimes posts which can at times be a bit cryptic.
 
Into the Night said:
You are not reasoning anything or presenting any arguments, moonbat. I doubt you even know what 'bandwidth' even means.
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You are indeed a dumbass. You're just the only one, apart from your sock, that doesn't acquiesce .

Haw, haw.............................................haw.
 
Scott said:
What are you, 12? You were talking about the U.S. guaranteeing Ukraine's safety. I think most would agree that the elected President of Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych, didn't feel very "safe" when he was fleeing Ukraine in fear of his life due to the U.S. backed Euromaidan coup back in 2014.
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!2 is about 8 years older than you, so no wonder you're confused about reality. Might as well be 60 relative your weirdness.
 
Scott said:
The sad thing is that up until the United States' blatant interference in Ukrainian politics during Ukraine's Euromaidan coup back in 2014, Viktor Yanukovych, the elected Ukrainian President at the time, had been working hard to strike a balance between western and Russian interests:
off-guardian.org

Timeline: Euromaidan, the original “Ukraine Crisis”

As Russia actually do launch an invasion or “special operation” in Ukraine, we thought now was a good time to recap on how we got here. The historical, political and ethnic divisions in…
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Alas, the U.S. couldn't allow that to stand and it's been pretty much all downhill for Ukraine since.
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Ludicrous. Most definitely a Russian propaganda piece.
 
moon said:
You should quit posting here, Nightsoil. You know fuck all about politics .
There are other forums here that will welcome a brain-dead parrot suffering from echolalia. Take your sock with you.

Haw, haw..................................haw.
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What's with that stupid 'Haw Haw' shit? We know you didn't come up with it on your own, so which silly Arab comic book character did you steal it from that you're using as a role model?
 
Cypress said:

The Ukraine ‘peace deal’ is proving a scam​

The White House’s breathless – some might say witless – optimism at the beginning of the talks has evaporated.
Trump himself seems to be waking up to the realisation that the Kremlin is playing him for a fool.


Two rounds of peace talks in, and the basic rhythms of Putin’s unique negotiating style are becoming clear: Lie. Bomb. Lie. Bomb.

Just a day after a new supposed breakthrough this week in Riyadh on a moratorium on attacks in the Black Sea, Putin’s deadly drones once again swarmed into Kharkiv destroying apartments and stores and injuring 21 people.

After Donald Trump spoke to Vladimir Putin earlier this month, the White House claimed that “a future with an improved bilateral relationship between the United States and Russia has huge upside” and spoke of “enormous economic deals and geopolitical stability when peace has been achieved”.

Days later Kremlin representatives sat down with their US counterparts in Saudi Arabia and agreed a partial ceasefire suspending attacks on energy infrastructure. Putin claimed that he had issued orders to cancel an imminent strike. Later that very night Russian missiles rained down on Kyiv, killing a young family in their beds.

This week the pattern has repeated. Putin’s envoys claimed that a ceasefire on the Black Sea had been thrashed out that would allow free export of Russian grain and fertilisers. Another lie, or at least a distraction, because neither commodity is currently sanctioned or restricted.

What the Kremlin really wants is free passage for its oil tankers and cover for its battered Black Sea Fleet to return to its base at Sevastopol, from which it has been forced to withdraw by Ukrainian missile attacks. And even as the delegations flew home, 86 deadly Iranian-made Shahed drones were rolled out of their containers, assembled, armed and launched at Kharkiv. More than 20 made it through Ukrainian defences, bringing more fire and fury to Kharkiv’s long-suffering civilians even as Putin claimed to be talking peace.

But perhaps Trump and his billionaire oil lawyer envoy Steve Witkoff aren’t the suckers that Putin takes them for. For one, the White House’s breathless – some might say witless – optimism at the beginning of the talks has evaporated. The tone of the readout of this week’s talks in Riyadh was bone-dry: “The United States and Russia will continue working toward achieving a durable and lasting peace.”

Trump himself seems to be waking up to the realisation that the Kremlin is playing him for a fool.

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The Ukraine ‘peace deal’ is proving a scam

Two rounds of peace talks in, and the basic rhythms of Putin’s unique negotiating style are becoming clear: Lie. Bomb. Lie. Bomb. Just a day after a new supposed breakthrough this week in Riyadh on a moratorium on attacks in the Black Sea, Putin’s deadly drones once again swarmed into Kharkiv...
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trump would take any deal that stops the war, even for a month. He's dying to get a Nobel Peace Prize, which is probably the most ludicrous idea in the world.

He's walking a tightrope because Putin has trump by the balls. There won't be any peace deal. The only thing that remains to be seen is how long it takes for trump to remove all of the sanctions on Putin. He's already done away with the oversight of oligarchs that are skirting sanctions.
 
As we see so many still trying to pretend that Biden was a real President and that the COVID response had our best interest at heart we see the power of the decades of brainwashings we have been subjected to.

They dont work on me.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
As we see so many still trying to pretend that Biden was a real President and that the COVID response had our best interest at heart we see the power of the decades of brainwashings we have been subjected to.

They dont work on me.
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The Covid response did have our best interests at heart. In none of our lifetimes has there been a virus as deadly and contagious as Covid. Yes, people overreacted and continue to overreact, but even people like Newsom had the best interests of his state in mind.
 
ZenMode said:
The Covid response did have our best interests at heart. In none of our lifetimes has there been a virus as deadly and contagious as Covid. Yes, people overreacted and continue to overreact, but even people like Newsom had the best interests of his state in mind.
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Suuure.
 
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